Boehner says no immigration deal until Obama enforces laws

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posted on Feb, 6 2014 @ 02:21 PM
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U.S. House Speaker John Boehner now says immigration reform is stalled because Obama needs to *Prove* he is serious about enforcing existing laws.

Last week Boehner released a Republican list of preferred points that did in fact emphasize enforcement of laws over any tweeking that would allow for illegals to stay here and somehow be "legal".

The story points out that in fact Obama has been deporting a lot of illegals, but has recently slowed and reduced deportations (imo, probably for political vote mining reasons).





House Speaker John A. Boehner said Thursday that until President Obama proves he’s serious about enforcing immigration laws, it will be difficult to get a bill through the House this year — dealing a potentially fatal blow to the chances for action in 2014.


“Listen, there’s widespread doubt about whether this administration can be trusted to enforce our laws. And it’s going to be difficult to move any immigration legislation until that changes,” the Ohio Republican told reporters at his weekly press conference.


That came exactly a week after Mr. Boehner had appeared to jump-start the debate by releasing principles for an immigration deal that included granting most illegal immigrants legal status and giving younger illegal immigrants a specific pathway to citizenship.



Boehner says no immigration deal until Obama enforces laws


[controversial][IMO]
Many people seem to think Republicans would gain votes if they support any form of amnesty.
I say no.
I think the Democrats want illegals to be present for voter fraud purposes.
And I think they want illegals to become "legal" for future legitimate votes.
Strong opinion, but I think I'm correct.
Either way, we are not necessarily dealing with "sane" politicians.
[/IMO][/controversy]


Is Boehner under a "Tea Party" takeover?





posted on Feb, 6 2014 @ 02:28 PM
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Isint that cute, another politician pretending hes really fighting for your rights, but its the democrats fault lol, the immigration reform with get signed, same as the last budget. Its a circus show and the american population have to pay for it in the end.



posted on Feb, 6 2014 @ 02:36 PM
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We did the amnesty thing before on the grounds that immigration be enforced. Well it wasn't. I wish I could believe a politician but I do not. I would fully back him about no amnesty until the federal government did it's job and enforced immigration laws.



posted on Feb, 6 2014 @ 02:40 PM
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With all the trouble represented in the AHCA maybe they should just stay away from such sweeping reforms.



posted on Feb, 6 2014 @ 02:47 PM
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Well, this is actually a smart move,
as we know how selective this White House is in its enforcement of
existing laws that were put in place to strengthen the U.S.

In other words, you can pretty much count on the opposite from Obama.



posted on Feb, 6 2014 @ 02:50 PM
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What Boehner won't tell the average low information Republican voter is that President Obama has deported more illegal immigrants than any other President in history. In fact, about twice as many as GWB in half the time.

Not enforcing the laws?

He was also saying that it was President Obama who was delaying the immigration bill, not the Republican House. However, President Obama has been asking for a debate and vote on his immigration bill for at least 3 years now, and Boehner has refused to bring it to the floor even for a discussion.

Boehner, as usual, is completely devoid of any facts in his message.



posted on Feb, 6 2014 @ 02:57 PM
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Considering that Homeland Security AND the State Department just relaxed immigration status for those whom have aided terrorists, I really don't think anything out of Boehnor's mouth has a ring of truth to it! Just more tactics to keep the masses at each others throats just awhile longer......


The Obama administration has issued new exemptions to a law that bars certain asylum-seekers and refugees who provided “limited material support” to terrorists who are believed to pose no threat from the U.S.

The Department of Homeland Security and the State Department published the new exemptions Wednesday in the Federal Register to narrow a ban in the Immigration and Nationality Act excluding refugees and asylum seekers who had provided limited material support, no matter how minor, to terrorists.

“These exemptions cover five kinds of limited material support that have adversely and unfairly affected refugees and asylum seekers with no tangible connection to terrorism: material support that was insignificant in amount or provided incidentally in the course of everyday social, commercial, family or humanitarian interactions, or under significant pressure,” a DHS official explained to The Daily Caller.


Obama admin unilaterally changes law to allow immigrants with ‘limited’ terror contact into US

Kinda sad that if a US citizen aided the terrorist in such a manner, they would most likely get "Black Bagged" under the NDAA and YET an illegal whom does the same thing gets rewarded........



posted on Feb, 6 2014 @ 03:07 PM
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babybunnies
What Boehner won't tell the average low information Republican voter is that President Obama has deported more illegal immigrants than any other President in history. In fact, about twice as many as GWB in half the time.

Not enforcing the laws?

He was also saying that it was President Obama who was delaying the immigration bill, not the Republican House. However, President Obama has been asking for a debate and vote on his immigration bill for at least 3 years now, and Boehner has refused to bring it to the floor even for a discussion.

Boehner, as usual, is completely devoid of any facts in his message.


Perhaps it's the "Quantity" vs "Quality" ratio that counts for more ....




The Obama administration has set records for deportations, but the types of immigrants it is kicking out of the country has changed dramatically over the past four years, according to numbers the Homeland Security Department has had to turn over as part of a pending court case.

Records show that the number of regular deportations from within the interior the rank-and-file illegal immigrants who are living and working in the shadows has plummeted by 25 percent. Instead, the department has surged deportations along the borders.

That change means that illegal immigrants who successfully navigate the border are in less danger of being deported, unless they commit serious crimes that bring them to the attention of the federal government.

Obama’s immigrant deportation numbers tell different stories in interior, on border




posted on Feb, 6 2014 @ 03:07 PM
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babybunnies
What Boehner won't tell the average low information Republican voter is that President Obama has deported more illegal immigrants than any other President in history. In fact, about twice as many as GWB in half the time.

Not enforcing the laws?

He was also saying that it was President Obama who was delaying the immigration bill, not the Republican House. However, President Obama has been asking for a debate and vote on his immigration bill for at least 3 years now, and Boehner has refused to bring it to the floor even for a discussion.

Boehner, as usual, is completely devoid of any facts in his message.


You are wrong.

www.nationalreview.com...



posted on Feb, 6 2014 @ 03:29 PM
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beezzer

babybunnies
What Boehner won't tell the average low information Republican voter is that President Obama has deported more illegal immigrants than any other President in history. In fact, about twice as many as GWB in half the time.

Not enforcing the laws?

He was also saying that it was President Obama who was delaying the immigration bill, not the Republican House. However, President Obama has been asking for a debate and vote on his immigration bill for at least 3 years now, and Boehner has refused to bring it to the floor even for a discussion.

Boehner, as usual, is completely devoid of any facts in his message.


You are wrong.

www.nationalreview.com...


Did you actually read this link before posting it? This guy is one of those people that cries about fact checking because it proves them wrong and says as much in the article.


“The Obama administration has deported more illegal immigrants in four years than President Bush did in eight years.” This is simply not true, even though PolitiFact rated a similar claim as “half-true.” Contrary to the PolitiFact report, I did not consider it “basically accurate,” but the piece highlights a fundamental shortcoming of the fact-checking enterprise.


He complains about "lefty shills" when he is obviously a "righty shill". He is just a joke.



posted on Feb, 6 2014 @ 03:32 PM
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I would have sourced MSNBC but their articles were all about how dreamy and how awesome Obama was.



posted on Feb, 6 2014 @ 03:36 PM
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"until Obama enforces laws"

Well this is going to be a significant problem for the administration.

I don't think they will even understand this statement.



posted on Feb, 6 2014 @ 03:38 PM
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The GOP aren't going to touch Immigration till the election starts.

I assume they will use it as a wedge issue for the nominee to run on.

They are just biding their time.

~Tenth



posted on Feb, 6 2014 @ 03:40 PM
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Hmm, according to that source the President is enforcing immigration law.

I have questions.
Speaker said he wants the law enforced.
Ok, the law is aca, does he mean he wants that enforced? No exemptions?
Keep in mind this is the same party who shut down the government over it. Who apparently now, wants it enforced…???

The medical and recreational marijuana laws in several states ARE LAW in those states. Is he referring to these laws as well? So now republicans, who constantly claim states rights want Federal law to over-ride state law?

Speaker also refers to the "Presidents friends" on the keystone pipeline.
Ok the keystone pipeline is not law. Its what oil companies want. The reservations that people have had over it are with the HUGE AQUIFER that is below. Not the jobs, "real or imagined" (you guys remember that word usage? real or imagined) One of the LARGEST in the world that spans half the middle of the NATION.

Are you guys sure you want to do this? Knowing about water shortages in some of the states? Knowing that many farms sit on top of this aquifer? You want to run OIL pipelines over it? Thats not imagined worry, its legitimate concern for our NATIONS water supply.

You guys following? Is it wise? Smart even to pursue some of these things?

I am now confused.

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posted on Feb, 6 2014 @ 04:22 PM
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Dear confused, Yes enforce his own A.C.A. that 100% of the Dems supported and he signed into law.

Dear confused, it takes two to shut down the federal gov't.

Dear confused, the EPA and the State Dept. have already said minimal to no environmental impact from the Keystone pipeline.

Dear confused, the "oil companies" couldn't care less how the oil gets to their refineries, rail or pipeline, it will get there.

Dear confused, there IS federal law against Pot. Enforcing the laws of the Federal Gov't is what the house leader is talking about.

Hopes this helps the "confusion"...if it doesn't...well that's why your a Democrat
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posted on Feb, 6 2014 @ 04:25 PM
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nwtrucker
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Dear confused, Yes enforce his own A.C.A. that 100% of the Dems supported and he signed into law.

Dear confused, it takes two to shut down the federal gov't.

Dear confused, the EPA and the State Dept. have already said minimal to no environmental impact from the Keystone pipeline.

Dear confused, the "oil companies" couldn't care less how the oil gets to their refineries, rail or pipeline, it will get there.

Dear confused, there IS federal law against Pot. Enforcing the laws of the Federal Gov't is what the house leader is talking about.

Hopes this helps the "confusion"…if it doesn't...well that's why your a Democrat
edit on 6-2-2014 by nwtrucker because: (no reason given)


Im not a democrat. I just want to make sure people know exactly what they're supporting.



posted on Feb, 6 2014 @ 04:26 PM
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Just to add some "eyes on the ground" perspective here's what ICE had to say a little while back.

This is symptomatic of the President’s continued demonstration of contempt for immigration officers and his blatant disregard for Congressionally-enacted law. ICE officers are forced every day to release violent offenders back into the streets; we are prohibited from enforcing immigration violations and document fraud and from cracking down on illegal employment; we are prohibited from enforcing public charge law to protect taxpayers; and we are forced to catch-and-release illegal aliens who are not ‘priorities’ even when officers’ believe there is a threat to public safety.
Link

Apparently ICE feels Obama is not performing his duty.



posted on Feb, 6 2014 @ 04:31 PM
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Establishment 'Pubs want immigration reform(amnesty) for a couple reasons.

1.) It keeps the big business money coming in because business wants the cheap labor.

2.) They hope they can siphon off enough new voters to replace their old constituencies. New immigrants often being all for big government policies which means more power for the politicians who make and administer those same policies.

Basically, amnesty is an attempt to marginalize middle Americans and further drown the middle class. How dare we be independent?



posted on Feb, 6 2014 @ 04:39 PM
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Republicans might follow the marching orders of their progressive masters, but they will buckle under (because they are spineless) to the pressures of the people.

They knew they were in MORE trouble if they voted for amnesty than if they didn't.



posted on Feb, 6 2014 @ 04:45 PM
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Oh, sorry...my confusion...




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