Originally posted by TruthStrgnrThanFiction
they look after each other in a secretive way.
I have not heard of masons looking after each other secretly, but if you could use and example it may make it clearer as to what you mean.
its well known that at many times in the past people got jobs because they were masons
This is more to do with individuals than the actual fraternity, bit like favouring a member of family over some one else.
more than likely put down their enemies in a similar way so on that level its just plain unfair
Not saying this isn't true because I don't know, but it is a presumption on your part in which is also unfair. Everyone is entitled to an opinion,
but if statements are made on opinion rather than fact it leads to conspiracy because people are unable to determine what is true or here say.
also why must it be a secret??? whats so secret anyway???
It is not secret, it has secrets but this is in remembrance of the old masons. Basically the only part of freemasonry that is secret is it's modes
of recognition. In ages gone by there were no certificates of qualification, no cv's and the majority of people were illiterate, therefore to show
someone was of a particular skill they were given a sign. Obviously this was kept secret to stop those that were not skilled from lying and
pretending they could do something they couldn't.
with the net now anyone can find out what masonry is all about,
then it is no longer secret
and it is steeped in the occult, sorcery and many other non biblical things. im not making this up
I would not think of saying you are making it up, but it also says on the net that satans greatest trick would be to get people to believe he is god
and that's why he wrote the bible. There is no links to the occult that I know of, although with symbols of freemasonry being common with a number
of other groups and fractions it is easier to create links. The fact that a main symbol is a square, as in the tool, you will often find people
associate freemasonry with anything that has a 90 degree angle in it.
all the signs and symbols and rituals and everything else in masonry has a root and a deeper meaning.
That is the idea of using symbols. It requires more thought to interprit a symbol than it does a word. That is why when you go into a church there
is a statue of the crucifixion, although the most are incorrect in a factual way (ie if the nails go through the hands it's wrong) the church did not
go and change them all, because it's symbolic.
i mean the pentagram alone is basically a symbol of witchcraft as an example.
I believe it would depend on the orientation of the pentegram, one way up it is designed to ward of evil spirits the other not. In saying that though
it does depend on the interpretation of the symbol, and people have always associated the pentegram, what ever the orientation, with evil mainly due
to the use of it in films, books etc. A symbol can be used for one thing by one group and have a completely different meaning for another.
the goal is for man to develop himself into a form of diety
With freemasonry not being a religion this is highly unlikely.
to gain more power and control
Thats human nature, to become bigger, better, faster and all that
and to do this without the permission. acknolwledgement or support of the true God. as soon as you put all Gods together... you are mixing the
true God with other "gods"
If freemasonry goes against your faith then that is a fair and honourable reason to disagree with the fraternity, but at the same time by claiming you
follow the one true god, doesn't necessarily make you right, that isn't meant to be antagonistic and I am not questioning your faith.
To me a fraternity that promotes brotherhood regardless of religion is a noble cause, more wars and conflict are caused by religous believes than any
other. As freemasonry is not a religion itself, the argument that it is occultist, deity wannabes etc is some what lacking. It actaully surprises me
than the many religions has not attmepted to use freemasonry as a way to try an convert, seeing as alot of there work is done from scritpure.
Thank you for your post, you have made valid points and I hope you appreciate my comments