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Pope Francis rips capitalism and trickle-down economics to shreds in new policy statement

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posted on Nov, 28 2013 @ 07:27 AM
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I am not religious. But God finally sent a lobbyist for the poor. Capitalism concept is workable. But wealth seems to have had an opposite effect on the ones who survived the Crash of 08. It made them afraid of losing money again so now their instinct is to hoard as much as they can for themselves. My government keeps printing new money for the banks under QE. Another one of those "trickle down" economics that failed for the poor.




posted on Nov, 28 2013 @ 07:33 AM
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Xcathdra
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I really don't think the Pope should be throwing rocks while he is living inside a glass house.

Vatican banking scandal...
Vatican's refusal on child molestation over the years...

to name just a few scandals...

For a religious person I would have thought he would know the old adage don't judge unless ye be judged yourself.



Well capitalism has set itself up as the best economic hope for mankind so the sort of criticism they receive from the pope just goes with that turf.

Folks are always calling for world leaders to hash things out. This is never done without the first round amounting to a parade of historical hypocrisies and failures coming from all sides and at all sides. Although the church has made friends in mammon I don't know that they should become a cheerleader for capitalism. Runaway rampant capitalism leading to rank feudalistic slavery is the large part of what ruined Israel according to the indictments of the prophets of that day. Be sure though that the Beast and False Prophet will come up with a solution to this conundrum and receive the praise of many.



posted on Nov, 28 2013 @ 08:08 AM
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I applaud Pope Francis when he speaks on matters of the spirit. He nails it. But when he starts speaking on matters of international finance, I get very nervous. He seems to want an end to the free market capitalist system. So if that ends, then what comes next? Socialism? Communism? A theocratic rule? Who would handle his wealth distribution?

There are always going to be corruptions in systems. Even in capitalist systems. But the corruptions and privacy invasions that would happen in a totalitarian new world order wealth redistribution system would make the capitalist corruptions like like childs play.



posted on Nov, 28 2013 @ 08:52 AM
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Unless the head of the un-holy roman catholic (the lack of capital letters is intentional by the way) is going to back this up with a radical re-distribution of his organisations own wealth and power, then his words, though sentiments that many can appreciate on their own merits, mean nothing.

The way he impacts me, is rather like a guitar virtuoso who has no stage presence. He makes all the right noises, but his moves lack conviction, and we all know what happens when one lacks conviction.

If I was being utterly uncharitable here, I could point out that saying these things, as he does, from the position of being the head of one of the most powerful world wide organisations on the face of planet Earth, could be seen as a little hypocritical. But, as I am having to remind myself on a constant basis, it matters not who speaks the truth or why, only that it is spoken at all.



posted on Nov, 28 2013 @ 10:17 AM
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He is doing what all people of wealth should be doing for their own preservation. Who can eat gold or old texts, the vatican can keep them.



posted on Nov, 28 2013 @ 11:28 AM
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But the corruptions and privacy invasions that would happen in a totalitarian new world order wealth redistribution system would make the capitalist corruptions like like childs play.


We have been on that path for decades if not longer, all this jibber jabber about the NWO is delusion that something changed when what's really happened is that we are now beginning to see culmination. The groundwork was laid long ago to allow this wealth distribution that we are now seeing except it's going opposite of what you see, not down but up. The elite get richer, their pet politicians get richer, CEOs get richer... while wages stagnate or drop and labor gets sneered at.



posted on Nov, 28 2013 @ 12:14 PM
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It's boss as long as it's heavily regulated. The shape our country is in shows the effect of unregulated capitalism.


Quote for the Win!

The current system only makes the rich richer, its almost impossible for a average joe to become rich(let alone brake even) now a days.

Big corporate already abused the unregulated system and are now the king of the hill , while pushing down the average guy trying to climb the ladder.



posted on Nov, 28 2013 @ 01:16 PM
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This part is AWESOME, as an open invitation for all the selfish bastards to win their own salvation before it's too late.


“I am interested only in helping those who are in thrall to an individualistic, indifferent and self-centered mentality to be freed from those unworthy chains and to attain a way of living and thinking which is more humane, noble and fruitful, and which will bring dignity to their presence on this earth,”



posted on Nov, 28 2013 @ 01:19 PM
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You cant fix anything on this wretched planet. Some people will never allow it. I think deep down he knows it but is willing to pay some lip service to his south american brothers who support him. People had high hopes for Obama too, until obama had a few national security briefings and quietly changed his tune.

The illuminati is real. New World Order is real. Bilderbergers are real. They all thrive on secrecy and evil!

Until people start taking conspiracies very seriously and do something about it as a collective, absolutely nothing will change. Bank on it!



posted on Nov, 28 2013 @ 01:33 PM
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Those same people have been making MASSIVE contributions to the Vatican for ages, heck the Rothschilds are the Bankers to the Vatican.

He's therefore not just paying lip service but is speaking with a very powerful and influencial "voice".



posted on Nov, 28 2013 @ 01:37 PM
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the problem is, he's speaking in that voice because the rothy's like communism.



posted on Nov, 28 2013 @ 01:43 PM
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undo
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the problem is, he's speaking in that voice because the rothy's like communism.


If they liked communism they would have set the example by giving back all the money they have stolen from the general public from many nations for centuries in the making. A good leader leads by example.

They do the opposite though. They thrive on secrecy and keep adding to their wealth often by fraudulent means. BUT they are not alone in this. They have MASSIVE MANPOWER to pull it off and get away with it.

The bilderbergers support the conspiracy. The royal families support the conspiracy. The millionares support the conspiracy. Its a rub my back and I will rub your back kind of deal.



posted on Nov, 28 2013 @ 01:49 PM
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no you don't understand. they like communism for everyone else, and capitalism for themselves. see interesting video




posted on Nov, 28 2013 @ 02:13 PM
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And that isnt communism, its state capitalism. When the state itself acts a capitalist enterprise and the profits are taken away from the state by rogue entities. Communism comes from communes, people living and working together, the workers owning the means of production and splitting the profits or losses.

I dont know much about the USSR or other "communist countries" but I do know that USA has become incorporated and the federal reserve runs the nation from behind the scenes. It has never been audited and is accountable to the ptb themeselves. USA is a textbook example of state capitalism.


INTERNAL REVENUE TAX AND AUDIT SERVICE (IRS)
For Profit General Delaware Corporation
Incorporation Date 7/12/33
File No. 0325720

FEDERAL RESERVE ASSOCIATION (Federal Reserve)
Non-profit Delaware Corporation
Incorporation Date 9/13/14
File No. 0042817

CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AUTHORITY INC. (CIA)
For Profit General Delaware Corporation
Incorporation Date 3/9/83
File No. 2004409

FEDERAL LAND ACQUISITION CORP.
For-profit General Delaware Corporation
Incorporation Date 8/22/80
File No. 0897960

RTC COMMERCIAL ASSETS TRUST 1995-NP3-2
For-profit Delaware Statutory Trust
Incorporation Date 10/24/95
File No. 2554768

SOCIAL SECURITY CORP, DEPT. OF HEALTH, EDUCATION AND WELFARE
For-Profit General Delaware Corporation
Incorporation Date: 11/13/89
File No. 2213135

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, INC.
Non-profit Delaware Corporation
Incorporation Date 4/19/89
File No. 2193946


www.metatech.org...

No country can be sovereign with a private central bank and corporate agencies.
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posted on Nov, 28 2013 @ 02:24 PM
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Capitalism is Boss? sure if your the 1%



posted on Nov, 28 2013 @ 02:31 PM
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There are many different ways of distributing corporate and individual wealth.

It doesn't mean Socialism.



posted on Nov, 28 2013 @ 03:03 PM
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NewAgeMan
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There are many different ways of distributing corporate and individual wealth.

It doesn't mean Socialism.


I personally dont care anymore if we have socialism or capitalism, as long as whatever it is, it is pure.

"it is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it", aristotle

I do like small and medium sized business though, workers to be properly compensated, multinational corporatism to be outlawed, and for illegal citizens to leave the country. Ideally I like national socialism which was popular in europe back in the 30s and 40s. Its the nazis and the exaggerated holocaust that gave national socialism a terrible reputation.



posted on Nov, 28 2013 @ 03:28 PM
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Socialism robs people of freedom, and creates a massive totalitarian regime. It's probably next up on the PTB's agenda.

Whereas, in the space of freedom, if the "elite" follow Francis' advice, they can both save their souls AND the problems of the world.

What's needed are new types of corporations, where it's not all about hoarding the wealth/profits at the top, and making everyone else a surf/slave.



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posted on Nov, 28 2013 @ 03:38 PM
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I just dont trust catholicism and the vatican with its awful history. You said it yourself that the rothschilds have contributed lots of wealth to the vatican. What makes you think that suddenly everything will change?

I dont trust communism either. In fact I hate communism.

I dont like capitalism run by bankers and multi-national firms called the bilderbergers.

That leaves national socialism, that has been the most targeted ideology, probably cause it works too well. Many national socialist countries like spain, portugal, rumania, turkey, bulgaria, switzerland, austria never got involved in WW2.



posted on Nov, 28 2013 @ 04:02 PM
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He's obviously referring not to free market capitalism, but a certain type and style of capitalism.



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