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Biigs
Makes perfect sense to me!
God helps those who help themselves. Make sure you, your family and your neighbor are taken care of before you start worrying about your chosen sky pixie's appeasement.
So Atheist it seems are believers of a religion called Humanism.
The agenda is not atheism but humanism and humanism is not "no God" but just that man can be his own god.
My biggest beef with this so called atheist group is, they do not fight against keeping eastern religions practices out of schools and govt like yoga and transcendental meditation.
Nor even OPENLY do they fight against Islamic religions in schools and govt when these groups get prayer rooms on campuses and in govt buildings or even tie up NY traffic to do their prayers ( when govt officials ((police and the mayor)) stand idly by as these fanatics tie up traffic they are supporting Islam. If a Christian prays on a sidewalk they are ticketed or arrested for it.) Where is the equality in their anti-religion ideology?
BTW, true Christians know that Christmas is 1) of Roman Catholic origins based in paganism, 2) that today it is a Humanistic commercial venture meant to raise money for the pockets of big business. An 3) that Jesus was born about the end of Sept or early Oct not December.
Merry Christmas!!! Happy Hanukkah!!! Merry Kwanza!!! and God bless you all even these believers of Humanism.
It is necessary to counter the constant droning of Christians that mankind is worthless and wretchedly hopeless, due to original sin.
Christianity does not teach men are worthless.
They do teach that man is in a hopeless state of sin nature and stuck in it without any hope to do other than sin and in that even righteous deeds are filthy.
Christianity does not teach men are worthless.
Matthew 7:17 So every good tree produces good fruits, but the worthless tree produces bad fruits.
Romans 1:28 And just as they had refused to continue to have a full knowledge of God, so it was to utterly worthless minds that God gave them up, for them to do things which should not be done.
Titus 1:16 They profess to know God, but in works deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and found worthless as to every good work.
2 Timothy 3:8 Now in the same manner in which Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, thus these also withstand the truth; men corrupted in mind, found worthless as regards the faith
They do teach that man is in a hopeless state of sin nature and stuck in it without any hope to do other than sin and in that even righteous deeds are filthy.
They teach that man is loved by God that he sent his son to be a sacrifice for their sins. Acceptance of that love is a requirement via the work of his son is the only way of salvation.
Now that is what many are against.
If you say there is no God you better be sure.
oh yeah the AOG signs are year round most of the Atheist signs only come out on holidays.
windword
reply to post by ChesterJohn
Christianity does not teach men are worthless.
Christianity teaches that unbelievers are worthless.
Matthew 7:17 So every good tree produces good fruits, but the worthless tree produces bad fruits.
Romans 1:28 And just as they had refused to continue to have a full knowledge of God, so it was to utterly worthless minds that God gave them up, for them to do things which should not be done.
Titus 1:16 They profess to know God, but in works deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and found worthless as to every good work.
2 Timothy 3:8 Now in the same manner in which Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, thus these also withstand the truth; men corrupted in mind, found worthless as regards the faith
They do teach that man is in a hopeless state of sin nature and stuck in it without any hope to do other than sin and in that even righteous deeds are filthy.
They teach that man is loved by God that he sent his son to be a sacrifice for their sins. Acceptance of that love is a requirement via the work of his son is the only way of salvation.
Now that is what many are against.
Atheist's aren't against your religion, they just don't believe it. I'm not an atheist, and I don't believe it either.
If you say there is no God you better be sure.
Right. Because, that loving God of yours will throw all the worthless unbelievers into Hell's fire for eternal punishment for not believing Bible stories.
I concur with the Humanists. We are the key to humanity's future, Not God.
oh yeah the AOG signs are year round most of the Atheist signs only come out on holidays.
So? That should be a relief for you then.
Haven't you ever heard "one bad apple spoils the bunch"?
Are those who are evil, like say for instance John Wayne Gayce, was he inherently just a good guy with some bad thoughts? Or was he rotten to the core? He sure didn't produce any good fruits.
And as much as you are afraid of an afterlife of hell,
what about the humans putting each other into hell right now on this planet? I am not going to apologize for John Wayne Gayce's very humanistic idea of no value for another person's life no more than I will for the rioters in pogroms. Why worry about God before looking at the hell on this planet right now, and no, they are not all religious people doing it.
Humanism is a group of philosophies and ethical perspectives which emphasize the value and agency of human beings, individually and collectively, and generally prefers individual thought and evidence (rationalism, empiricism) over established doctrine or faith (fideism).
en.wikipedia.org...
So if an atheist commits murder then it's just his animalistic nature but if a religious person commits murder then it is all the fault of God and Christianity?
windword
reply to post by WarminIndy
But think about Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, the Amish school shooter...what should their justice be? The Amish forgave because that's what their commandment was, but does it change the fact that the man turned away from God?
If we truly believe we are victims' advocates, then shouldn't we believe in justice for them? Even if justice is a truly evil person being sent to hell for their murder and destruction and bringing hell on earth? Whose life is more worthy?
Christianity does not teach men are worthless. Christianity teaches that unbelievers are worthless. Matthew 7:17 So every good tree produces good fruits, but the worthless tree produces bad fruits.
Romans 1:28 And just as they had refused to continue to have a full knowledge of God, so it was to utterly worthless minds that God gave them up, for them to do things which should not be done.
Titus 1:16 They profess to know God, but in works deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and found worthless as to every good work. Timothy 3:8 Now in the same manner in which Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, thus these also withstand the truth; men corrupted in mind, found worthless as regards the faith
They do teach that man is in a hopeless state of sin nature and stuck in it without any hope to do other than sin and in that even righteous deeds are filthy. They teach that man is loved by God that he sent his son to be a sacrifice for their sins. Acceptance of that love is a requirement via the work of his son is the only way of salvation. Now that is what many are against. Atheist's aren't against your religion, they just don't believe it. I'm not an atheist, and I don't believe it either.
If you say there is no God you better be sure. Right. Because, that loving God of yours will throw all the worthless unbelievers into Hell's fire for eternal punishment for not believing Bible stories. I concur with the Humanists. We are the key to humanity's future, Not God.
oh yeah the AOG signs are year round most of the Atheist signs only come out on holidays. So? That should be a relief for you then.
AfterInfinity
reply to post by ChesterJohn
You need to fix those quotes.