After 30 years it's time to find out who protected the infamous Paedophile Information Exchange

It[the paedophile information exchange] was established in 1974 to campaign for the age of consent to be lowered to four years old

Did previous Tory and Labour governments fund the infamous Paedophile Information Exchange?

That's the remarkable claim made to me by a former Home Office insider this week.

PIE was established in 1974 to campaign for the age of consent to be lowered to four years old.

Many former members have been imprisoned for child abuse crimes.

People long dead like Peter Righton, who fooled the social work establishment that he cared for the safety of children, when all the time he was grooming kids for his own despicable ends.

PIE included many establishment figures like the highly qualified Dr Morris Fraser, who by day practiced as a child psychiatrist in Belfast but by night, was accused of preying on young vulnerable children.

The retired insider told me that he recalled raising his concern that the Volunteer Services Unit of the Home Office was directly funding the work of PIE.

His recollection was that he raised his fears with superiors but was left in no doubt that he should drop the matter.

I’ve written to the Home Secretary asking her to initiate an inquiry.

It’s not the first time Theresa has had to investigate her own department.

MPs have tried to expose wrongdoing by the PIE before.

Source - The Mirror UK

It would seem that in the wake of the Jimmy Savile scandal that the truth of paedophilia within the establishment might actually see the light of day.
I found out about the PIE a few months back while trying to find good credible information on paedophile politicians.
Its sickening if true.

Yeah.....
I`ve noticed all these celebrities being pulled in for sex crimes and it
was only something like last year when a Labour politician was asking
if the government were going to look into the thirty odd year paedophile ring
concerning the houses of parliament.
Everyone is in on it from the highest level so it looks like nothing will ever come out.

there should be a bounty for anybody found in the act. if you have proof and an ear you should get a monthly stipend. oh well looks like there is a difference between justice and what is just

lambros56
Yeah.....
I`ve noticed all these celebrities being pulled in for sex crimes and it
was only something like last year when a Labour politician was asking
if the government were going to look into the thirty odd year paedophile ring
concerning the houses of parliament.
Everyone is in on it from the highest level so it looks like nothing will ever come out.

As much as I think you are right, I hope you are not.

I hope this garners the attention it deserves...

Nightmares at Elm Guest House


Then there is the Labour25 Website.. Labour25.com

And then there is this...
The Crystal Methodist

As has been shown with the Bryn Estyn case (Operation Pallial), the current generation of police are more than willing to approach these crimes head on and to redress the imbalance created by their corrupt predecessors, but no doubt, first, thousands will be wasted upon an inquiry instead of giving that money directly to the police, in terms of resources, to help them do the job that needs to be done.

If anything good has come of the Saville debacle, it is that these cases are being brought back into the limelight and can no longer be hushed up, and that no matter how long ago they happened, that the police are finally willing, and able, to listen to the victims, and arrest those implicated. 15 arrests so far, but heaven knows how many victims these predators have abused in the 30 years in between. Someone, eventually, has to take responsibilty for the failure to protect, but for now, the priority needs to be to get them locked up and off the streets.

KilgoreTrout
As has been shown with the Bryn Estyn case (Operation Pallial), the current generation of police are more than willing to approach these crimes head on and to redress the imbalance created by their corrupt predecessors, but no doubt, first, thousands will be wasted upon an inquiry instead of giving that money directly to the police, in terms of resources, to help them do the job that needs to be done.

If anything good has come of the Saville debacle, it is that these cases are being brought back into the limelight and can no longer be hushed up, and that no matter how long ago they happened, that the police are finally willing, and able, to listen to the victims, and arrest those implicated. 15 arrests so far, but heaven knows how many victims these predators have abused in the 30 years in between. Someone, eventually, has to take responsibilty for the failure to protect, but for now, the priority needs to be to get them locked up and off the streets.

The priority is to get them locked up and out of government.

Hollie Greig, Operation Ore, Jersey childs home.....

UK establishment covered up paedophiles inside its own ranks. Tony Blair even went as far as quashing an entire investigation into thousands of paying customers for child porn as it became a 'matter of national security'.

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Thank you for posting. The second video was on my to do list for posting to this thread as the international aspect evolved from it, but you did it for me. Thanks.

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Thank you - for such an insightful thread. I will watch the videos when I have had some sleep. As long as we all stand up and do whatever we can - our actions will make a difference. If we do nothing - then - nothing will change. The sharing of information via the internet is essential.

Much Peace...

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From Wikipedia:

Relevance today

Despite the fact that PIE disbanded in 1984, the name still seems to have some power and crops up from time to time in discussions, even in parliament.[13] In the discussions of the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Bill in 2000, Sir Paul Beresford had this to say, for example:
“ Lightheartedly, I should like to ask the Minister to put himself in the shoes of a well-known paedophile – perhaps we could call him Gary, and imagine a little more hair and some high-heeled shoes to add some character. As a paedophile, Gary believes that it is acceptable to have sex with children. He thinks that the bulk of society is completely out of step. He belongs to a group called the paedophile information exchange, and he and his disgusting friends use the internet to exchange data, ideas, names, photographs and even films related to their paedophile activities. That is all stored electronically, and protected by a sophisticated encryption system. ”

I don't support the expansion of regulatory powers over the Internet - and hope this issue isn't being manipulated to gain support for any such thing. Still, pedophiles are worse than murderers in my opinion.

soficrow
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From Wikipedia:

Relevance today

Despite the fact that PIE disbanded in 1984, the name still seems to have some power and crops up from time to time in discussions, even in parliament.[13] In the discussions of the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Bill in 2000, Sir Paul Beresford had this to say, for example:
“ Lightheartedly, I should like to ask the Minister to put himself in the shoes of a well-known paedophile – perhaps we could call him Gary, and imagine a little more hair and some high-heeled shoes to add some character. As a paedophile, Gary believes that it is acceptable to have sex with children. He thinks that the bulk of society is completely out of step. He belongs to a group called the paedophile information exchange, and he and his disgusting friends use the internet to exchange data, ideas, names, photographs and even films related to their paedophile activities. That is all stored electronically, and protected by a sophisticated encryption system. ”

I don't support the expansion of regulatory powers over the Internet - and hope this issue isn't being manipulated to gain support for any such thing. Still, pedophiles are worse than murderers in my opinion.

Its a good point you raise, the freedoms of information that used to be the biggest boon of the internet are being used to shut it down.
From the freedom of anonymous expression used by trolls, to the "dark web" and silk road, and media "pirates" and also paedophiles.
Everything that can be used to stifle the freedom of expression and freedom of information that the internet provides is being shut down. Slowly but surely.

I see people all over many threads here on ATS talking about the NSA overstepping their bounds by spying on the internet but what if, just what if what they are doing is rounding up all of the degenerate people from around the world, rounding up all of the terrorists, all of the pedophiles, all of these knock em out criminals, all of the sickos that should not be within a CIVILization, personally I don't have a problem with what they are doing, if that is what they are doing. Yes I'm sure I'm going to get blasted here for saying that, but for those blasting me what is it that you have to hide. I am one of those people who could be tied to a polygraph machine and asked any question , and I would NOT BE ASHAMED to answer ANY QUESTION that I was asked, or put into other terms, I have nothing to hide. So I'm not worried about being exposed for who I am, as a matter of fact, I would be proud to put myself out there like that to prove my level of respectability. I would be honored to stand up and be counted. So if the NSA is doing all of this to round up the sickos that have no place in society anyway , I say round them up and get rid of the degenerate scrum within our society, if your not doing anything wrong then you have nothing to worry about.

DonVoigt
I see people all over many threads here on ATS talking about the NSA overstepping their bounds by spying on the internet but what if, just what if what they are doing is rounding up all of the degenerate people from around the world, rounding up all of the terrorists, all of the pedophiles, all of these knock em out criminals, all of the sickos that should not be within a CIVILization, personally I don't have a problem with what they are doing, if that is what they are doing. Yes I'm sure I'm going to get blasted here for saying that, but for those blasting me what is it that you have to hide. I am one of those people who could be tied to a polygraph machine and asked any question , and I would NOT BE ASHAMED to answer ANY QUESTION that I was asked, or put into other terms, I have nothing to hide. So I'm not worried about being exposed for who I am, as a matter of fact, I would be proud to put myself out there like that to prove my level of respectability. I would be honored to stand up and be counted. So if the NSA is doing all of this to round up the sickos that have no place in society anyway , I say round them up and get rid of the degenerate scrum within our society, if your not doing anything wrong then you have nothing to worry about.

The failure of your argument is that what you have to hide today isnt the same as what you might have to hide tomorrow.

For example, you agree to mass surveillance, then they decide to make criticising government illegal.
Laws change, and our freedoms were given to us as a result of those that bled and died to achieve it.
I personally dont want to see us having to shed blood again to get back what we already had(to a great extent), but unwittingly gave away.

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...the NSA overstepping their bounds by spying on the internet but what if, just what if what they are doing is rounding up all of the degenerate people from around the world, rounding up all of the terrorists, all of the pedophiles, all of these knock em out criminals, all of the sickos that should not be within a CIVILization, ...

I wish. But power seems always to be used to protect power and the status quo. And the worst pedophiles are very powerful...

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While I'm sure there are abuses in the system, the difference between right and wrong does not change with the political winds, there are conservative and liberal beliefs that I consider to be the right thing for everyone, however crime is crime and needs to be exposed so that it cannot continue, I'm sure that there are that there are people in this country right now who have been punished for political beliefs, but we have bigger problems in this country that need to be fixed right now, murder, crimes against children, rape, drugs like crack,bath salts,crocadil, heroin, meth, human trafficking, there are more important things to focus on than political beliefs.

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At the point you express we can only have faith that in the larger picture all evil will be exposed for elimination, and for those off us who have been sinned against, may God bless you, and for those doing the sin may God give you what you deserve for that sin against another

DonVoigt
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While I'm sure there are abuses in the system, the difference between right and wrong does not change with the political winds, there are conservative and liberal beliefs that I consider to be the right thing for everyone, however crime is crime and needs to be exposed so that it cannot continue, I'm sure that there are that there are people in this country right now who have been punished for political beliefs, but we have bigger problems in this country that need to be fixed right now, murder, crimes against children, rape, drugs like crack,bath salts,crocadil, heroin, meth, human trafficking, there are more important things to focus on than political beliefs.

Sadly it is the political beliefs and priorities of the "deciders" that not only allow the crimes of which you speak, but also their active participation in.

We have the mass murder of unjustified wars, and the resulting record exporting of heroin from Afghanistan while our troops patrol and protect the poppy fields.
We have politicians and their associates actively and systematically abusing children, including rape.
We have heads of banks that are actively abusing drugs and storing paedophilic photos on their computers. aka The Crystal Methodist Rev Flowers. Who miraculously "got through the net" and was appointed head of the Co Op bank.
We have the historic cases of human sexual trafficking by the state child care system.
We have the modern slavery which according to home office spokesman Anthony Steen from the human trafficking association that says its 20 times more prevalent than when it was abolished, only difference is that now its secret.
We have children as young as 10 being found in brothels.
Fact is these are the people you are trusting with your liberty.
I say maybe that trust is misplaced.

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I agree that many that are in power need to be removed, by no means am I trusting anyone with my liberty, as I've said and I'll take it even further, that I would be willing to go on national television and be tied to a polygraph machine to prove myself. And like I said that I do agree that many in power need to be removed from power,but what I realize is that a pile of jenga blocks does not fall by removing the ones at the top but when the right one at the bottom is removed the whole pile falls, including the ones at the top.

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Pedophiles come from every walk of life and the stereotype of the recluse dirty old man has got to stop. It's outdated and only protects those in more respected circles.