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Father Arrested For Trying to Pick Kids Up From School

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posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 03:53 PM
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kaylaluv
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Yes, you can take your child out of school early for various reasons, like doctor appts., out of town trips, etc., but when you sign your child out, you usually have to give the reason (at least you did in every school my daughter attended). This guy didn't have any reason other than he wanted to avoid the traffic jam. Gee, I suppose every parent should have then been allowed to park their car in the pick-up line, walk into the school, then demand that their child be released right now, so they could drive away. Can you imagine the chaos in the lobby at that point?


So the school should be able to control how a parent picks up their kid?, they are catering to the drivers over the walkers?

you are part of the problem.




posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 03:57 PM
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Do you think it's okay for 600 people to walk into the lobby and demand their child right now, so they don't have to wait in the car line? If it's okay for the one guy, then it should be okay for the other 599 parents, right? Do you think that makes sense?



posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 04:02 PM
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Normally i defend the cops as these kind of videos are usually one way, but man this cop is an ass.

I hope the father sued them for unfair charges and harrasement



posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 04:31 PM
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I watched the video.......And I haven't seen anyone express themselves like I am about to............

There is NO WAY IN HELL.......That my kids school would do that to me. I wouldn't let it happen. And believe me, I know enough parents that IF this ever happened, TS would HTF, and toot sweet......

If the schools carried that child around for 9 months, took care of said child, in the middle of the night, while having earaches, colds, just BLAH.......or have to deal with the DR.Jeckel, and Mr. Hyde (most kids behave themselves at school, but are a totally different person at home)

Till then, It will never happen..........I know all the local cops anyway.

Has anyone ever notice that the more complicated, ass-backwards people make a process, the happier they are, or am I just the ass backwards one??

I say the more simple it is, the better. less confusion..........



posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 05:00 PM
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kaylaluv
reply to post by HanzHenry
 


Do you think it's okay for 600 people to walk into the lobby and demand their child right now, so they don't have to wait in the car line? If it's okay for the one guy, then it should be okay for the other 599 parents, right? Do you think that makes sense?


how about the expense of sitting in a car burning gas for 30 minutes a day? once the line starts moving it takes awhile and the ones on the back are spending major coin on fuel.

ANd why not? are you telling me that parents shouldn't be allowed to walk into school and get their kids?

That would FORCE the school admin to resolve the problem.

Actually, the problem is the fact that BUSES should be transporting kids, not each parent.

Look at the massive expense of all parents fuel to/from school daily. I BET a bus/driver would be better. Not to ,mention the time lost from work.



posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 05:18 PM
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HanzHenry



ANd why not? are you telling me that parents shouldn't be allowed to walk into school and get their kids?


They can - but either way, they have to wait their turn, according to the school policy. This guy didn't want to wait his turn. If 600 people walked in to get their kids, it may take a lot longer then if they waited in the car pick-up line. What is most efficient?




Actually, the problem is the fact that BUSES should be transporting kids, not each parent.

Look at the massive expense of all parents fuel to/from school daily. I BET a bus/driver would be better. Not to ,mention the time lost from work.


I believe in the video, buses were mentioned. Why everyone isn't on a bus, I don't know... I do know that the school administration is probably pretty motivated to minimize the time it takes to get the children off school property - it's in their best interest as well as the parents. They're probably working on it, but not fast enough for this guy.

The cop was wrong too. What he should have said was, "Wait your turn to get your child according to the current school policy. If you don't like school policy, take it up with the school administration." Then he should have walked away. Period.



posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 09:46 PM
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This is a prime example as to why we do not need school resource officers. School intimidation officers is more the correct term. Put the fear of LE in them when their young and it will stick when their older. We do not need police in schools.



posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 09:50 PM
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That's funny.

Parents treat their kids as property, pets, and entertainment for their friends...LOOK AT ME!

Isn't that just adorable?



posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 09:56 PM
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This is how the unemployment problem will be solved. Everyone will be spying on/minding their neighbors for eight bucks an hour.



posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 10:43 PM
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lol... the cop calls him childish near the start of the video, but the only childish person I see in this clip is a fat half-retarded sheriff who chooses to arrest a person when he can't win a debate.



posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 07:37 AM
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kaylaluv


Do you think it's okay for 600 people to walk into the lobby and demand their child right now, so they don't have to wait in the car line? If it's okay for the one guy, then it should be okay for the other 599 parents, right? Do you think that makes sense?


What are you suggesting, that the man and his wife go stand in the queue of cars and wait his turn?

It was pretty obvious to me that they came to the school on a city bus (you can see through the windshield in the beginning of video), so why does the school not have any wya for parents who are 'on foot' to pick up their kids. They were demanding that he sign a form allowing his kids to 'walk home' alone' when that clearly wasn't the case.

I called the Cumberland County Sheriff's office just 20min ago to express my extreme ire at seeing their dept. execute a false arrest. They said there was more to it than the video, going on to say that the father had been there multiple times during the week harassing them over the new policy, but I don't see how that has any bearing on them falsely arresting him for simply insisting that he doesn't need any waiver to pick up his kids without waiting in a queue of cars!

Also as far as I can tell he was NOT trying to pick up his kids early.

Quick question though, if your kids are only supposed to be released to you directly, how does the school identify parents in cars? Does each parent have to get out of car and enter the office? Seems like a horribly wasteful and tedious process!

edit on 21-11-2013 by 8675309jenny because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 07:50 AM
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jimmyx
wow, if this guy shows his ID, and he's the kids parent what right does the school have to keep his kid after school is over...am I missing something here?



How about Showing His Social Security Card

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posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 07:56 AM
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Our local elementary school has implemented the same protocol for after school pick up. Last summer, they built a drive that loops around the school and lets out into a neighborhood specifically for this new rule. The rule is, you get in line, sit in your car, and wait for your child to come out. You are not to go inside and get your child. You wait in your car. Bus riders are escorted to the buses as usual.

The parents and people living in the area are angry because, it creates a nightmare traffic situation where cars are backed up each day and a lot of people are blocking drive ways in the neighborhood, congesting the once quiet neighborhood roads. There have been near misses of children getting hit by impatient parents trying to drive off the loop once they get their kid. This new policy makes absolutely no sense, to no one.

If you want to go in and get your child, you MUST call ahead and tell them you are coming. Come to the front door of the school which is locked, press a call button, where you wait for assistance. You can't break protocol, you cannot just walk inside, you cannot just come in and ask for your children. Apparently this is a nationwide thing taking place because my sister across country has told me it's the same in her town.

The guy in this video did everything right. He respectfully went to the front office as you are supposed to do, and checked in. He did nothing wrong, not to anyone who uses logic and reason that it SHOULD be OK to go into a school and get your own children, but it's not like this any more. Once your children enter the school building, they are not in your custody anymore. You have to jump through their hoops. Their rules, their stupidity.

It's definitely changed because, my mom would just walk to the classroom, knock on the door and get me, if she had to take me out of school or speak with me and no one had a big conniption fit. But this is back when the parents had all rights to their own children even when they were in the school building.

Now, you see schools going on "lock down". Lock down is a prison system term, for when prisoners are placed on lock down for various reasons, threats, fighting, suspicious activity, protection, etc. When I hear schools using the term "lock down" I immediately think of the prison system. When a school goes on lock down, you as a parent have to wait outside of the building until they decide to relinquish your children to you. They are in control, they make the decision. This video shows exactly who has control of the children.



posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 07:58 AM
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boymonkey74
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So its fine to brainwash your own kids? I call that abuse.



No, no by all means let the state brainwash them as they see fit.



posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 08:03 AM
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HanzHenry

kaylaluv
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Do you think it's okay for 600 people to walk into the lobby and demand their child right now, so they don't have to wait in the car line? If it's okay for the one guy, then it should be okay for the other 599 parents, right? Do you think that makes sense?


how about the expense of sitting in a car burning gas for 30 minutes a day? once the line starts moving it takes awhile and the ones on the back are spending major coin on fuel.

ANd why not? are you telling me that parents shouldn't be allowed to walk into school and get their kids?

That would FORCE the school admin to resolve the problem.

Actually, the problem is the fact that BUSES should be transporting kids, not each parent.

Look at the massive expense of all parents fuel to/from school daily. I BET a bus/driver would be better. Not to ,mention the time lost from work.


The real question is, why doesn't the school want parents coming inside when they want to?

It used to be, you could stop by the school and check on your child. You could even sit in on a class room and observe quietly if you felt the need. It's not like that now. When your child enters into the building, they are not in your custody. You have lost some rights on them. This is being made very clear.



posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 08:11 AM
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boymonkey74
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So its fine to brainwash your own kids? I call that abuse.


Parents have the right to teach religion in conjunction with homeschool curriculum. A parent has a right to teach their child about the Lord if they so choose.

Now if a parent is using homeschool as an excuse to not educate them in lieu of religious studies only, and to segregate them from everyone and not allow them to socialize and form relationships on their own, then yes, I'd agree with you.
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posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 08:13 AM
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8675309jenny


What are you suggesting, that the man and his wife go stand in the queue of cars and wait his turn?



I called the Cumberland County Sheriff's office just 20min ago to express my extreme ire at seeing their dept. execute a false arrest. They said there was more to it than the video, going on to say that the father had been there multiple times during the week harassing them over the new policy, but I don't see how that has any bearing on them falsely arresting him for simply insisting that he doesn't need any waiver to pick up his kids without waiting in a queue of cars!

Also as far as I can tell he was NOT trying to pick up his kids early.



Hay that's funny but sounds like something you could expect out of this.....some guy standing in the car line! LOL

Yea when I realized that this event was being filmed by someone Jim brought then there must he history here. Apparently his being there before and complaining had brought no resolution from school officials that were certainly aware of Jims complaint by then. Couldn't help but notice the sheepish demeanor of the receptionist at the sight of the camera. She may have been more the "school lady" during the prior encounters.

Also his threat of lawsuit didn't sound spur of the moment but considered before he went in.

With regards to all this in mind I got to give the guy some credit for pressing his case and going the distance. But Hes a large strong type a looking guy.....should have had his wife do it...LOL...if you get the drift. The cop let the cat out of the bag..."you're not going to intimidate me Jim". Lets be real honest and say the cop projected and wouldn't have said that to a short man or female no matter how pissed off they were.



posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 08:48 AM
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We have parents here who ride their horses to school ponying the kids horses or ponies and pick them up this way. Almost all the shops locally have hitching posts and in some cases corrals for horses for people who stop to eat at he 3 restaurants here, hell even McDonald's and the bank has a hitching post.

So if one of the riding parents came to this school they'd have to wait in a line of cars for their kids? Yeah I see that ending well lol. Parents here would ALL take their own or borrowed horses to school just to prove a point. We have many times before had protests to prove a point, like 23 moms taking turns sitting in a crappy math teachers class till we had proof he was an idiot and he finally got fired. Our schools are actually pretty good now after years of the parents raising a fuss. If this had happened here the next day they'd have had about 50+ parents standing on the sidewalk in front of school with signs protesting. We did it many times over the years when the schools tried to get stupid like this and smacked em right down.


Lil



posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 09:41 AM
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8675309jenny

kaylaluv


Do you think it's okay for 600 people to walk into the lobby and demand their child right now, so they don't have to wait in the car line? If it's okay for the one guy, then it should be okay for the other 599 parents, right? Do you think that makes sense?


What are you suggesting, that the man and his wife go stand in the queue of cars and wait his turn?


No, I'm suggesting that the man wait until his child is released. The policy was that walkers are released after the buses are loaded (per deputy dawg in the video). Now, if 600 parents want to walk in the lobby and pick up their child, they would have to follow the procedure and provide I.D. Don't you think that would also be a very long wait? Probably longer than moving in the car line.


They were demanding that he sign a form allowing his kids to 'walk home' alone' when that clearly wasn't the case.


I really didn't see them demanding it. Once he said he didn't want to sign it because he didn't want his kids walking alone, they didn't press the issue. The issue that WAS pressed was that he would have to wait until the buses were loaded before he could walk his kid home, per school policy.



Also as far as I can tell he was NOT trying to pick up his kids early.


Looked to me like he was not wanting to wait at all to get his kid. All the parents had to wait their turn to get their kid. Why is he special? He should have waited until the walkers were released - he didn't want to do that, because he didn't want to wait.


Quick question though, if your kids are only supposed to be released to you directly, how does the school identify parents in cars? Does each parent have to get out of car and enter the office? Seems like a horribly wasteful and tedious process!


Yes, that would be like 600 parents trying to walk in the lobby to get their kid - crazy, right? Most schools have a car tag that you either put on your dashboard or hang on your rear view mirror. This tag either has your child's name or a number that was assigned to your child. Our school uses numbers, and the tags are special colors that would be hard to duplicate. They only give out a couple of tags per family. It works pretty well. Our school also requires you to pick up your child via car (except for special circumstance). We used to have a problem with having to wait over an hour in the pick-up line, but the school came up with some inventive ways to shorten that quite a bit. Now it only takes about 10 minutes for all the kids to be gone.



posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 12:14 PM
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Home school your kids now, before they make it damn near impossible for parents to do it.



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