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reply to post by olaru12
The "evil" is when you feel that laws should be written elevating a group at the expense of others. None of those groups are evil, but all of them have been used to chip away at our freedoms in the form of laws that get ever more restrictive for everyone.
Sorry, I fail to see the morality in the way blacks, Native Americans and other minorities were treated in the past.
And saying others did the same is no argument. Either it's Moral or it's not.edit on 11-11-2013 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)
reply to post by SaturnFX
P.P.S. "societies evolve and adapt"?? They grow, get bigger, stronger. Then they decay and they die.. Every time, without fail.
reply to post by okyouwin
Lack of logical rebut also noted.
Yes, at our best, the U.S. was still flawed, imperfect. Perhaps even more flawed than the "patriots" could or would admit.
On the other hand, the unending guilt trip for past sins and mistakes used to attack/demean, again "patriots",- I prefer "Americans"- seems to be intended to stop any comments or striving for American exceptionalism.
Perhaps, the truth is somewhere in between.
It's hard to tell what comments are heartfelt and honest from mere political ideology or self-interest.
There is a balance point between freedom and responsibility, between "live and let live", do what you want and the military code of Justice. An irreligious society and a society run by a religion.
My view is we've gone too far one way. None have argued that a moral code is useless or of no value, at least no farther than being guilty due to association with religion.
As a huge "believer" in the Tenth Amendment. The problem is largely solved by letting each state go the route that their citizens want. The federal gov't is the source of much of the problems. Put the leashes back on it.
Let the States "live and let live". Then we'll have happier citizens...either way.