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posted on Aug, 21 2013 @ 06:40 PM
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Originally posted by chiefsmom



Radio carbon dating shows the pyramid to be at least 24,800 years old


Isn't that statement going to make most archeologists continue to say this is not real?

I think this find is amazing, but if there is anything really interesting in it, it is going to be hidden from us.


what did they date, you can't date stone?

The Bot

Also have any seen docufilm about the great pyramid really being giant energy plant. Sadly I think the Egyptian who actually grew up there and try to bring to light this hypothesis died. My memory is a problem and I apologize for the vagueness. I wish I could remember his name, it was very interesting and a very good hypothesis based on stories passed down through his lineage.

The idea that these pyramids were also linked in some sort of global power grid is intriguing. I mean allot of these pyramids were built around the same periods of time in different parts of the world but yet they were not supposed to know about each other.

These massive structures and underground cities are amazing and I find it impossible to believe they were built with only bone, rock and primitive brass tools. I believe they had help and some sort of harmonic sound or gravitational lifting devises to help them. To construct and move the songs by hand alone would simply have taken too much time. Time that at least in the case of the pyramids in Egypt they did not take too build them.

The fact also that some of these stones we would have great difficulty in cutting, moving and placing today makes it even less likely they accomplished it without help so long ago.

Incredibly interesting stuff.

Thanks

The Bot
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posted on Aug, 21 2013 @ 07:25 PM
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thanks for the additional info. I had never heard of this particular site before and the "pay to play" deal makes a lot of sense in retrospect. Samir makes real archaeologists look bad with his methodology.



posted on Aug, 21 2013 @ 08:15 PM
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"Latest News..."

Yep. Still fake.

Harte



posted on Aug, 21 2013 @ 09:43 PM
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"The fact also that some of these stones we would have great difficulty in cutting, moving and placing today makes it even less likely they accomplished it without help so long ago."

It's far more unlikely that two beings on a planet can be talking to each other instantaneously in real time like we are right now.

Think about it, what we are engaging in right now is absolutely amazing. I don't even know where you are. For all we know the deserts the pyramids are constructed in could have been in shallow water at the time. Think about how much easier it would have been to move and build structures like that in water.

I don't claim to know anything but I do know the earth has had some major changes in the last 20,000 years. Marine fossils found in the desert?

If you want to figure out the pyramids you need to think completely outside the box.



posted on Aug, 21 2013 @ 10:14 PM
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So is anyone who's not a hack, or archeological quack, or has no monetary interest in these hills think these are man-made?

Just curious.

So far it seems (to me anyway) that these are natural hills.
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posted on Aug, 21 2013 @ 11:25 PM
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You can put all the verified evidence you want out there and the naysayers will still discount it. These stones were tested before and found to be manmade cement. There could be fifty confirmations and the people who do not believe will still deny it.

Most of the archeologists don't believe that these are pyramids. I guess if a predominant archeologist would have discovered these, they would be up there working on it. Instead, a businessman with a great interest in the pyramids and little if any certification in the field found them hiding in plain site..

So they are not high quality structures like some of the later ones, the masons improved later on



posted on Aug, 22 2013 @ 01:01 AM
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Well.....after the the wright brothers had successfully flown at Kittyhawk there were university educated experts who claimed the wright brothers were frauds and fabricators.....

Guess who's remembered today......

not bad for bicycle mechanics......
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posted on Aug, 22 2013 @ 03:50 AM
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I've heard it has a swimming pool down underneath it too, might even be a bar and a steam room.



posted on Aug, 22 2013 @ 05:05 AM
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Originally posted by litterbaux
It's far more unlikely that two beings on a planet can be talking to each other instantaneously in real time like we are right now. Think about it, what we are engaging in right now is absolutely amazing.


Amongst all the theories I have read I find the one that states that we are merely one of the many, many peoples that lived on this earth and had superiour knowledge the most plausible. If I try to imagine how our ancestors may have lived 25.000 years ago, I might see folks that were hunter/gatherers, hungry all the time, driven by the lowest instincts, who lived in caves. Or I might see a very high level of civilisation, in which architecture was a world-wide enterprise, cities existed that were filled with light day and night, and people grew much older than we do now. We can find "evidence" for both scenario's.

We are, after all, a fragile species. Our knowledge is interwoven and spread over millions of specialists, all working together to create almost magical capabilities. But if 90 percent of humanity would disappear overnight that would suffice to eradicate our current knowledge. Some devices would remain, we might be able to restore some of our knowledge, but only a fraction, given the way knowledge depends on other knowledge and given that in the end that knowledge has to be accesible to human brains.

We may have lived through that cycle many thousand times: from primitive people, that tell each other stories about the acheivements of their glorious ancestors to beings that can only be described as Gods but even then not Gods enough not to be eradicated by nature's will. After each a 'restart' we might be able to recreate much of what we did before, but it is more realistic that we would simply discover both the same but also a number of other things - things even we haven't discovered yet - and that we would use these new foundation blocks to build upon a new web of new knowledge. Which might not allow us to speak directly to each other, but may easily allow us to build any structure we wished to, who knows?

So, I'm not amazed when I hear of amazing buildings that "should not be there". No, they should not be there if we believe that we are the summon of what is achievable and that our web of knowledge covers everything. But if we simply acknowledge that our civilisation is based upon a web of knowledge that in turn is based on a very long series of interwoven coincidences, we may realise that even say our modern day computers might be ridiculous artefacts in the eyes of some of our otherwisely advanced ancestors. Say, for example, they learned how to use the human brain more effectively and had, by coincidence, learned that chewing the leaves of the Me'nno plant gave them much stronger mental capacities, that in turn allowed them to contact anybody using a much stronger form of what we now know as 'telepathy' - would that not make the concept of a complicated device to achieve the same ridiculous? If you can simply contact anybody by eating a leave of the Me'nno plant and application of elementary techniques - complex, but taught to every youngster - why bother inventing a 'phone'?

Now, we're here, and as the Me'nno plant was destroyed during one of these ELE's - or maybe it still exists, but we simply haven't re-discovered it nor the techniques we need to apply to channel it's effect - we can not use that technique to contact others. We need stupid phones.

So, yes, our ancestors may well have had the possibility to create those pyramids (we know they did, after all). But this gentleman in Bosnia is, TTBOMK, just a fraud that lives off this scam.



posted on Aug, 22 2013 @ 05:23 AM
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Thanks for the Post



posted on Aug, 22 2013 @ 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by litterbaux
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"The fact also that some of these stones we would have great difficulty in cutting, moving and placing today makes it even less likely they accomplished it without help so long ago."

It's far more unlikely that two beings on a planet can be talking to each other instantaneously in real time like we are right now.

Think about it, what we are engaging in right now is absolutely amazing. I don't even know where you are. For all we know the deserts the pyramids are constructed in could have been in shallow water at the time. Think about how much easier it would have been to move and build structures like that in water.
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I don't claim to know anything but I do know the earth has had some major changes in the last 20,000 years. Marine fossils found in the desert?

If you want to figure out the pyramids you need to think completely outside the box.


So you never tried retrieving and moving a heavy weight your dork friend threw in the deep end of the pool. It is actually much harder to move, I will let the physic geeks explain it lol, but trust me that is not the answer. I find the discussion how quickly we would lose our knowledge very intriguing.

This is science and he or her is correct. Very nice post. Who is to say that the little gray dudes are not us from the future and not ETs after all. Not long ago they found new evidence of settlements that were much older than previously found before. Curious circle type areas that they are not sure yet what they were used for but they are finding allot of them.

Look at puma punku, we can't date stone so we don't know exactly how old they are accept for how far back the people know they have Been there. These stones prove by themselves that the ancients had technology list to us. Where did these incredible people go. One thing we know, they vanished and took their tech with them.

Modern stone cutters with the best machines we have today would find it almost impossible to reproduce these stones. Ancient aliens did a well done piece on this subject. Most scientists kinda skip over this and don't really want to discuss it because they can't explain it or wrap their heads around the fact their was someone here that technologically advanced.

Very interesting....

The Bot



posted on Aug, 22 2013 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by rickymouse
You can put all the verified evidence you want out there and the naysayers will still discount it. These stones were tested before and found to be manmade cement. There could be fifty confirmations and the people who do not believe will still deny it.

That's because there exists no "verified" evidence and the entire story is nothing but a huge pile of crap.

It is what it is and wishing it weren't won't change it.

Harte



posted on Aug, 22 2013 @ 02:23 PM
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So you have seen the reports yourself and investigated the companies doing the reports?

I haven't personally seen the new evidence so I can't say anything till I ask Sam to e-mail me a copy of the documents. I can never remember how to spell his last name.
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posted on Aug, 22 2013 @ 03:41 PM
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Ridiculous just like those ancient underwater cities. Isn't there a fake archeology psyop going on? You'll never know for sure. There's whole new paradigm with plausible deniability. With science obscure like medieval church.



posted on Aug, 22 2013 @ 04:16 PM
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While it would be way, way cool if these "structures" were bona fide ancient man made monuments, anyone with a critical mind should spot all the tell tale signs in the linked article.

It's so full of guff that i shall just highlight a few and not waste my time any further.

"New Era Times" being the ultimate source hardly has credibilty..

Then there are the scientists/writers in question, and the way their statements are worded and subsequently mis interpreted for maximum effect:

From the initial OP posted source, deriving from NewEraTimes:




Results released by the Polytechnic University of Turin, Italy of chemical and diffractometry laboratory analysis done on sandstone and conglomerate blocks taken from the Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun show that the samples are an inert material with a binding, similar to that found in ancient Roman concrete. These results were confirmed by analysis on the samples done at the University of Zenica,Bosnia-Herzegovina.


This does not say man made by any stretch of the imagination

Next scientist:




In a separate independent test, Professor Joseph Davidovits, renowned French Scientist, member of the International Association of Egyptologists and author confirms this claim. “I performed electron microscopic analysis of the sample and I propose the geopolymer chemistry that was used to make this is ancient concrete,”


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he can discern that it is not modern concrete, but more like the technique used by the Egyptians 3500 years ago.” In his book,The Pyramids: an Enigma Solved


again, not stating that it is man made, but making a simile which is quite different - he is also selling a book and seems to be making a cloudy stayement that folk who want to believe can get all het up about, yet gives him plausible deniability. His credentials as a member on the International Association of Egyptologists?

It's not hard to join.

IAE Application form

I qualify via my Archaeology degree and further related studies as well as my long standing friendship with an Egyptian former colleague who studied Egyptology in Cairo and worked on the Giza Plateau for about six years before moving to the UK. I know as much about Pyramids as the average reader here (but maybe in a calmer fashion) yet could use my membership to imply i'm an expert.

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The research on pyramid technology has long suspected that pyramid energy involvesscience and machinery far more advanced than what we currently have today. Christopher Dunn, author of The Giza Power Plant, published in 1996 explains that the pyramids were ancient energy machines


Nuff said, by all means explore stuff and be open minded, but he does not lend credibilty to any claim and has a vested financial interest in this.

The given facts at the bottom of the page are unsubstantiated hyperbole too, and the excavation at the site, well covered elsewhere is a joke, using a methodology more reminiscent of the Antiquarians who stripped the megalithic tombs of the UK in search of treasure. Archaeologists look at the site and blanche because it is so amateur, disorganised and slapdash.

If there is any evidence, they are destroying it and removing all context. The only reason that a qualified Archy like Osmanagich would do this is to deliberately cover up the fact that he has squat to prove his grand claims.

Shocking rubbish.

What if this fool is destroying real evidence of genuinely groundbreaking stone age discoveries that dont sell to the boggle eyed masses so well? ever thought of that?

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posted on Aug, 22 2013 @ 04:21 PM
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I like this topic and worthy of interest and Invetigation!
S&F



posted on Aug, 22 2013 @ 08:51 PM
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Well said, Skalla.

Except for this:


Originally posted by skalla
The only reason that a qualified Archy like Osmanagich would do this is to deliberately cover up the fact that he has squat to prove his grand claims.

Osmie has no academic qualifications for the "position" he holds (or held, maybe) at the American University in Bosnia and Herzegovina.

I'd never read the wiki on him until just now. Even one who desperately believes the first section about his "pyramids" would have trouble getting through the rest of what's written there with a straight face.
As for his position at the American University, this is from the page listing the topics of their Center for Archaeology:


TOPICS
1.Bosnian Megalithic sites
2.The Mayan Civilization (Messo-America)
3.Sumer, Babylon, Akkad, Asiria (Persia)
4.Teotihuacan, Monte Alban (Mexico)
5.Giza and other 130 pyramids in Egypt
6.Shaanxi pyramids, First emperors (China)
7.Yonaguni – underground megalithic structures (Japan)
8.Tihuanaco (Bolivia)
9.Gobekli Tepe (Turkey)
10.Baalbeck (Lebanon)
11.Vinca, Lepenski Vir (Serbia), Daorson (Bosnia), Asseria, Varvaria (Croatia), Meteon, Duklja (Montenegro)
12.Phenomenon of the Bosnian Pyramids – inter-disciplinary scientific approach
13.Stonehenge, Avebury stone circles (United Kingdom)
14.Tumulus phenomenon (England, Bulgaria, Philippines, France, Bosnia)
15.Pre-historical menhirs (France, Germany, England, Italy)
16.Hypogeum temples (Malta)
17.Machu Picchu, Kavachi & Tukume pyramids (Peru)
18.Anasazi, Pueblo Indians (United States)
19.Stone sphere phenomenon (Mexico, Costa Rica, Easter Island, Bosnia, Serbia, New Zealand)
20.Stone heads of Easter Island
21.Aborigines (Australia); anthropological genetics, age of nations in the world
22.Pyramids of Mauritius, Canary Islands and Sicily
23.Astronomical knowledge of Dogon tribe (Mali)
24.Underwater archaeology (India, Cuba, Bimini, Azores, Sri Lanka, Japan)


That list is so fringey it could double as Davey Crockett's jacket.

Harte



posted on Aug, 23 2013 @ 02:09 AM
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HAHA! I feel a right twat for not checking his credentials, or that of the *cough* "university" he works for. A rich seam of humour and and jaw dropping bullcrap there!

That University seems about as credible as the 100 or so so-called language schools located in single room premises above fish and chip shops in a small town near me that offer bogus courses to foreign folk simply to allow them to enter the UK!

He also appears to have no training in Archaeology and Anthropology, except possibly a membership to ATS. WhateverhappenedtoBlocula?
or perhaps Jedimiller?

Crystal Skull believer too



To all those that believe that this is a ground breaking site - this fool is destroying the place and removing all chance of it ever having any credibility via his methods. He is destroying evidence - you should really be getting out the pitchforks and torches and demanding his head. Your heritage and dreams are being wrecked by this twerp.



posted on Aug, 23 2013 @ 02:12 AM
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i read somewhere that the effects of the energy inside cause rocks to levitate and waters to heal and rejuvinate. ill try to find the article again.



posted on Aug, 23 2013 @ 02:19 AM
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Originally posted by truthermantwo
i read somewhere that the effects of the energy inside cause rocks to levitate and waters to heal and rejuvinate. ill try to find the article again.


Miraculous!

Such claims should be an absolute doddle to substantiate - i assume that there are heaps of films of these levitating rocks and so forth. As well as firm evidence of healing backed up by medical reports. Hopefully my doubt can be laid to rest by such remarkable evidence





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