The Language of Vampyr

a reply to: Kantzveldt

For awhile I never made aware of something on ATS on this thread but I have artwork in one of there videos actually quite a bit of it to be honest. I would have said so before but my name is credited to the video me and a girl. There was nothing subliminal about anything I did.

a reply to: Brotherman


Yes i was aware of this, as i said not all the videos seem likely to cause disturbance, i liked this one

a reply to: Kantzveldt

I agree I like some of the music and art presented in quite a bit of their material, some of it is extraordinary.

a reply to: Kantzveldt

I dug this up for you, I think you will absolutely love this

Our Children in Heaven

I think there is more that meets the eye here what do you think of this piece?

a reply to: Brotherman

…perhaps this will create a new and better form of the reality we all exist in because we do make the reality around us, being telepathic will help humanity unite I think.

Of course, brotherman, my friend, you weren't speaking to me, but I have to add this, in explanation, to my continuing reticence about technological telepathy:

I would love it if it were to help humanity, and being as such, I can fully understand how, being in another persons' mind, experiencing their reality, so to speak, would build and reinforce empathy, which it seems, we are so far lacking, and can be attributed to our many misunderstandings,and even perhaps, war; however, I have yet to see a firewall truly work. And having described it thus, what mayham might result from no firewall, but unlimited access?

We can, perhaps, assume we know why Muslims hate modern culture….differences in behavior, vice leading to "unGodliness" and what Muslims might see as then uncleanliness…. Can you imagine what a lack of a firewall in our minds might lead to, then?
Tetra

I think it comes diwn to personal control a reply to: tetra50

a reply to: Brotherman

I gotta lot of personal control, Brotherman, no offense intended.

Once you combine EMF, voice to skull, etc., personal control will get you nowhere…..as in, one cannot control, at that point, what they hear, nor what is voiced through them….nor how loud it is, nor when it occurs. Just to give a good perspective on just how out of control such a thing (technological telepathy) could rapidly become.

Sorry, that's my take on that, and it comes with some fairly vast experience….
But I don't expect anyone to either believe me, nor to agree, for as I've always suspected, but more frequently experienced, firsthand, we don't really live in a free anything….
Regards to you.
Tetra

Take care everyone.
Taj, in case you didn't get my U2U about the aforementioned: this is the Cassini Diskus I happened upon: what-if.xkcd.com… You will come upon various topics. Go to the main page, and click Archive. There you will find "Cassini.
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Tetra

Better yet, Taj, because things are so wonky for me lately, here ya go:

Cassini
What would the world be like if the land masses were spread out the same way as now - only rotated by an angle of 90 degrees?
—Socke
It would profoundly alter our biosphere in general and public radio in particular.
Socke asks what would happen if the Earth’s surface were slid around by 90 degrees, putting our current North and South Poles on the equator. We’re not changing the tilt of the Earth’s axis; we’re just imagining that the surface were arranged differently.
a diagram showing the new location of the equator and the poles
We’ll pick the Greenwich meridian for our new equator, putting the new North and South poles in the Indian ocean (0N, 90E) and off the coast of Ecuador (0N, 90W). India, Indonesia, and Ecuador would become polar, while Europe, Antarctica, and Alaska would become tropical.
Where would the deserts and forests be? What areas would get better or worse?
This stuff is complicated. In a moment, we'll start using wild speculation to reshape the face of the planet. But first, a brief story to illustrate just how mind-bogglingly complicated this stuff is:
In Chad, on the southern outskirts of the Sahara, there’s valley called the Bodélé Depression. It was once a lakebed, and the dry dust in the valley floor is full of nutrient-rich matter from the microorganisms that lived there.
From October to March, winds coming in from the east are pinched between two mountain ranges. When the surface winds climb over 20 mph, they start picking up dust from the valley. This dust is blown westward, all the way across Africa, and out over the Atlantic.
That dirt—from one small valley in Chad—supplies over 50% of the nutrient-rich dust that helps fertilize the Amazon rainforest.
At least, according to that one study. But if it's right, it wouldn’t be a crazy anomaly. This kind of complexity is found everywhere. The basic building blocks of our world are crazy.
This is why we can be so certain about large-scale patterns like global warming, where we understand the overall physics pretty well—energy comes in, less energy goes out, so the average temperature rises—but have a harder time predicting how it will affect any particular place or specific species.
So even if I were a climate expert—which I’m definitely not—there’d be no way to answer this question with certainty. There are just too many variables. Instead, think of what follows as a rough sketch of some of the things this alternate Earth could contain.
To start, here’s a map of our reshuffled world:
a map of the reshuffled earth, with asia, africa, and most of antarctica north of the equator and north and south america south of it.
(An equirectangular projection, by the way. This type of equirectangular projection, centered on a north-south meridian instead of the equator, is specifically called a Cassini projection, so a good name for our alternate Earth might be "Cassini".)
Let’s imagine that this alternate Earth develops over millions of years, with ecosystems and climate zones settling out. Then one day we wake up to find our current civilization has been magically transported there—cities and all. What would they find?
The climate on the rotated Earth would depend heavily on the details of ocean and atmospheric heat circulation. We'll guess at some of that, but for now, let's assume this world has extremes which are similar to ours.
So let's add some ice and permafrost near the poles and in mountainous areas:
a map showing ice near the poles and mountainouse areas, shown with a light blue color
Next, we should fill in some green areas and deserts. The locations of these depend heavily on rainfall, so we’ll need to sketch out some winds.
The main driver of our weather is the sun, which heats air near the equator more than at the poles. Hot air rises at the equator and then flows poleward, and cooler air moves in across the surface toward the equator. This circulation is called a Hadley cell.
illustration of a hadley cell
Hadley cells shift north and south of the Equator with the seasons. At this time of year on our Earth, the sun is directly overhead at about 10°N, which is why hurricanes are forming near that latitude right now.
Because of the Coriolis effect, the surface winds in a Hadley cell flow from east to west. Further north, for most of the temperate zones, the prevailing surface winds are west to east. (At times, there are also east-to-west winds circulating around the poles.)
So let’s fill in some wind patterns—keeping in mind that in reality things would be further complicated by land interactions and the location of persistent high and low pressure systems.
a map with the new wind patterns
Sinking air is cool and dry, so land under the outer edges of the Hadley cells tends to be arid. These regions, lying a bit poleward of 30 degrees, are known as the horse latitudes.
map showing air movement with horse latitudes labeled
The rising air at the equator carries moisture from the ocean, which then condenses into rain, so tropical areas are usually wet and thick with growth. Areas near the equator are sometimes dominated by a seasonal monsoon cycle.
In temperate zones, things are more variable. Weather there is dominated by the movement of jet streams and fronts, and depends heavily on geography. Most of the United States is in this type of region.
With all that in mind, let’s fill in some arid and lush areas:
the same map filled in with various lush (green) and arid (yellow) areas
(Climates can be hard to predict—for example, in our world, Somalia and French Guiana both sit on the equator, at the eastern coast of a continent, and seem like they should both receive a tropical sea breeze. But coastal French Guiana is dense rain forest while coastal Somalia is an arid desert. The explanation involves the monsoon cycle.)
And just for fun, here’s a wild guess as to where the hurricane basins would be:
the same map with swaths of red to show where hurricanes might occur
Let’s take a closer look at each continent.
North America has a range of climates similar to what it had before, but flipped north-south. The Arctic Canadian provinces are now tropical, while Central America is icy and polar. Hurricanes threaten Greenland, Baffin Island, and the Maritimes. Tropical moisture from Baffin Bay and the northwest (formerly north) Atlantic mixes with cool air flowing down through the US from the Rockies, creating a new Tornado Alley in the prairies inland from Hudson Bay.
South America looks sort of like the old Europe. It's cool and temperate along the Brazilian coast, with boreal forests and grasslands across much of its width. In the south, the boreal vegetation gives way to polar tundra, and eventually to the massive icebound Andes, which cut the continent off from the frozen polar waters. The Amazon, which in our world carries more water than the next seven largest rivers put together, is reduced to something akin to the Mississippi.
Asia is flipped in the same way North America was, with the Siberian coast facing an enclosed tropical sea. The Indian subcontinent and north (formerly southeast) Asia form the new Siberia. The Gobi Desert is no longer in the rain shadow of the Himalayas, but doesn't exactly become tropical.
Europe resembles the old southeast Asia. Great Britain and Ireland look like the Indonesian islands of Sumatra and Borneo. Iceland resembles our Philippines. Central Europe is the new New Guinea, wi

, with the Alps the only place on the Equator with permanent glaciers.
Africa is rotated 90 degrees, with south (formerly west) Africa becoming tropical rainforest and north (formerly east) Africa an arid desert. On our Earth, North America is the only continent where tornadoes are common, but in this world, they're frequent in East Africa as well.
Australia is cooler and wetter, with forests across the northern (formerly western) regions.
Antarctica is a clear winner. Without its ice cap, it’s a bit smaller than we remember, but most of it is blanketed with highland rainforest. There are alpine zones around the mountains to the south and west. The researchers at McMurdo and Scott Base on Ross Island wake up to a tropical paradise. If any of them find they miss the frozen wastelands, they can always put in for a transfer to Costa Rica.
Now, let’s see how the world’s largest cities fare:
the same map showing where some maor cities would now be located
Some cities get colder.
Mexico City, high in the polar mountains, is buried beneath an ice sheet.
Jakarta is the new Svalbard—a desolate coastal rock too far north even for most Norwegians.
Kolkata and Delhi are icebound, sealed off from the warmer world by the Himalayas.
Hong Kong, Manila, Karachi, and Mumbai are similar to our world’s Anchorage or Reykjavik—the ocean isn’t frozen, but it sure is cold.
A few cities remain perfectly habitable, albeit with some changes:
Seoul, Osaka, Tokyo, Shanghai, and New York City are among the least-affected cities, with climates roughly similar to their previous ones. Shanghai does get colder, but seasonal extremes in all five cities get milder—particularly in Seoul—and substantially wetter.
Cairo is moved slightly south. It’s now surrounded by coastal savannah, with spots of rain forest found around the mouth of the Nile. Though it moves closer to the equator, it doesn’t actually get hotter.
São Paulo and Buenos Aires cool down a bit. They’re now on the northern coast of a South America, which occupies a Canadalike range of latitudes. Their climate is somewhere between that of our New England and that of our Regular England.
Los Angeles is cool and mild. The steady sea breeze carrying moisture up into the San Gabriel mountains makes LA one of the rainiest places in the new US. It closely resembles a wetter version of our Seattle.
And a few cities get much hotter.
Moscow is extremely hot and very dry, with a climate somewhere between our Phoenix and our Baghdad. Russians, who have been surviving in Russia for centuries, shrug with resignation.
London sits in a steamy jungle straddling the equator, with a climate generally resembling Manila's. The food is still bland, the Thames is full of piranha, and it's the only place on Earth where tigers apologize as they attack you.
At the beginning, I mentioned the impact on public radio. To explain, let’s consider one more scenario. Namely, what if this change were made on our Earth, over a fairly short time?
We’re assuming that all the material is magically shifted around, so there are no massive tsunamis or earthquakes. Even so, it would definitely still be a catastrophe. For starters, the ice caps would melt long before new ones could develop, pushing the ocean up by a few hundred feet. The reshuffling of climate zones would come as a huge shock to the biosphere, leading to collapse of the food chain and eventually to mass extinctions at every level.
But if the shift happened just right—and Michael Bay were telling the story—then as the waters of the Gulf of Mexico began to cool and the Mississippi slowed and became an estuary, the region’s wildlife would spread inland.
And one morning, Minnesotans would wake up to the sight of floating rafts of fire ants, followed by five million lost, hungry alligators …
the same map showing arrows labeled 'alligators' moving north into minnesota
… leading a harrowing, surprisingly bloody “News from Lake Wobegon” segment on what would become the final, fatal broadcast of A Prairie Home Companion.


Kinda cool ending, mentioning the Prairie Home Companion, and all, dontcha' think?
Tetra

a reply to: tetra50

I broke cassini almost a year ago it is sound meant to be heard go back to page like 17 or something.


so much I want to tell so much I could care less about.

a reply to: Brotherman


William Holcombe an early pioneer of phonetic texting by the look of things with a dash of Esperanto, but as written by a Swedenborgian Homeopath i do recall FL's interest through a video in a contemporary German practitioner, so homeopathy and Swedenborgian weirdness in text speak, i'm not sure what i'm supposed to be loving though...?

Vampires don't exist. The language of fairytails:-) ;;

Hi Everyone,

I have been trying to nail down how we became convinced that FL might be involved with "DARPA" or any other government agency.

I'm getting to DARPA, but in the meantime I found this low-hanging fruit.

This post claims that the Nodespaces ("NodeSpaces" in the post) software was created by Haliburton...

I'm glad you asked. They are a part of Halliburton

Here's a link to the patent: Method and system for generating software code using a symbolic language translator

It has nothing to do with Nodespaces. At all.

There is no connection to Haliburton.

a reply to: Bybyots

Well except that - what the patent 'describes' is basically what Nodespaces 'does'...

Ask Brotherman, he's the one who managed to figure out the basic mechanisms of both Nodespaces and Cassini Diskus..

Also, that patent wasn't the only reason we suspected government involvement. They also have referenced DARPA in bibliographies, here's a link to one example:
Dalnegorsk and Rhenium

Plus, most of the posts labeled "Defense" read as if they are 'reports' on military research and many reference government (particular the U.S. Navy) contracts...

Why don't you just go and read more of them? Honestly, it seems as if the only FL post you ever really scrutinized was that particular one (an extreme rarity) which only listed other FL posts in its bibliography. Believe me that is the worst example of 'Defense' posts to 'judge' whether the FL site is involved in anything 'illicit'...

One thing you'll notice, their 'UFO' posts pretty clearly indicate government 'faking' of some of the most famous UFO cases...(such as the one I linked above - it indicates that the government faked a 'downed' UFO in a remote part of Russia in order to do a little mining of a mineral substance called 'Rhenium')


Addendum: can't get link to work - the FL post it goes to is from January 27, 2014 and the English title is, "The Dalnegorsk incident and the quest for Rhenium"..

a reply to: lostgirl

Yeah, you're right for sure, LG, I tend to get very narrowly focused.

And you are right to the degree that the patent that I linked from that post does have in common with NS that it works based on parallel computing over distributed nodes. Far as I can tell, that's where it ends though.

I'm afraid that if I get any deeper in to that site I'll get some on me again and start posting nonsense. But, between you and I, I can't imagine getting any more non-sensical than I already have; I honestly can't believe the crap I post sometimes.

Anyway, would be great to nail down exactly how Haliburton and DARPA would be imporatant here and why, instead of painting with the brush so broadly.

As far as that patent goes, yeah, I know: it's close, but it technically ain't their software.

Right?

One thing you'll notice, their 'UFO' posts pretty clearly indicate government 'faking' of some of the most famous UFO cases...(such as the one I linked above - it indicates that the government faked a 'downed' UFO in a remote part of Russia in order to do a little mining of a mineral substance called 'Rhenium')

Yeah, you bet I did, that really gave me pause and caused me to want to read the material. But, of course, I can't because it's all in cassini diskus.

But whatever, I know that already, and frankly: they heard it here first. They'll learn more from us on that one than we will from them. So I'm not really worried about it, all I can do is agree and go on with my own meandering studies.

a reply to: Brotherman

When you say broke it do you mean that you discerned that it is transmitted via sound, or that you can interpret the messages? First time looking at Cassini Diskus my thoughts were, machine code/looks like a vinyl record - but I wouldn't call that "breaking" it. (seems like the non-human intelligences wouldn't have to be aliens)

Also, kick ass on having art in their material. I wasn't kidding when I mentioned asking about room on the "label", good to know

As far as "one" not having to "go too far off of the deep end: to figure this stuff out. The deep end is often where creativity sits. Some of us "ones" enjoy the deep end, and just because we wade out far doesn't mean we don't come back.

a reply to: Brotherman

Also speaking of art! Would you want to share any of it? I'd like to see it. Not necessarily the stuff in the FLsite vid, just in general.

This is an interesting read, though the content itself doesn't necessarily directly relate to the absolute apparent details of this thread. I only bring it to attention because the bibliographies seem similar in form to those at FLsite. Specifically, what caught my attention, was the very bottom of page 23 for the PDF. I wanted to know what reference "8" was, so I went and checked and it was what appears to be an internal Air Force document, referenced in similar form to thye way that FLsite refs their internal documents. Just an interesting notice. I MUST sleep, night y'all

The StrikeStar

Full document as various individual PDFs here

a reply to: Taj Mikel

Brotherman has a couple threads with his art in it, he's very talented! Go to one of his posts here and click on his name above his avatar (a badger) and that will take you to a list of his threads - the art ones have "art" in the title...

a reply to: Taj Mikel

cassini diskus was explained early on in this thread and then confirmed by FL member Direne and then email from Ayndryl i cannot listen to it without software why sound well its buried in this thread I repeated myself in tons of points more then 5 times in othering aspects, tired of that while you bring new material it doesn't change the original content. Follow alot of earlier links and re read other things most heavy contributors stopped in this thread long ago. I stopped for a long time too, Kandtzveldt makes awesome threads, this one though was unique because she was saying wtf over source material too and extent and her knowledge of old things is immense. (I did say she I am not sure Kandtz is a girl but if Im wrong sorry about that)

when i mention the deep end I mean the part where ones brain falls out