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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
A serious anger problem? You don't even know me, pal. I'm an autonomous string of characters on a web page.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
Little jabs like that. That's why I get a little upset at times. Because little snide comments that you push through the crack in the door, those comments give me the impression that you are not at all regretful or reluctant of your little barbs and in fact view them as a kind of sport.
It's immature and disdainful.
Originally posted by boymonkey74
Shall I fetch your angry trousers sir?
He only gets angry when he has them on
AfterInfinity
Well, apparently they weren't too stimulating and informative because one of them just went POOF! Maybe now would be a good time for you to start making sense and posting relevant material. Your little derailment and distraction act is getting tiresome. This isn't about me. This is about the conversion from Catholicism to atheism and whether or not it could be considered a valid transition, a well-advised one, a productive move, whatever. What's the pros and cons to this kind of switch? No more ad hominem, boys. This is adult time now. Handle the discussion maturely and intelligently.
Originally posted by Joecroft
reply to post by boymonkey74
LOL
Originally posted by boymonkey74
Shall I fetch your angry trousers sir?
He only gets angry when he has them on
Yeah, but he wears them ALL the time…
This isnt about you and your bandwagoning? You just stated to JoeCroft pg 67 "A.Cooperism" is technology challenged, and hinted medically/psychologically as well?
What exists a better victim to have chosen for your 'revival broadcasts ONE ON ONE personal style of bombast'.
Good for you taking away any hope at all for this person (IF HE EXISTS and taught your dog to yipe/type).
Adult time, yes. This just gets better and better. I can see it now all of the non-techs and mentally unstable people under the evangeliventriliquists tent.
Of course I don’t know you, but I’m basing it on ALL of your previous interactions, with myself, and a few other posters on this thread.
You just attacked me 3 times, in an unfounded manner. And then when I pointed out, you have an anger issue, you then accuse me throwing a Jab at you, when you’d already thrown 3 unfounded jabs, in my direction.
“You get a little upset” lol
“Push through the crack in the door” lol
You don’t seem too regretful, about your own unfounded jabs towards me, which YOU started…So I’m the one who should be angry and upset…not you lol
And the reason I’m not regretful, is because it’s based on the evidence in your posts.
Anyway, would like to hear what I think of your OP…?
Originally posted by pthena
reply to post by AfterInfinity
You wound me.
This is page 65. I reviewed some of your back and forth with vethumanbeing, up to page 24.
Somebody should have started an off-topic appendage to this thread with pros and cons of atheism or something of the sort. I think I'll go look at wildtimes thread about ATS religious experiences.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by vethumanbeing
Now you're just talking nonsense. Had he chosen to remain Catholic, or chosen almost any modern god at all, he would have been automatically condemned for his nature. He would have been caught between who is he and who he thinks he should be, and he would have lived the remainder of his life in confusion and despair. What hope is there in such a position?He has all the hope he needs and wants right inside of his heart. He doesn't need a god to feel good about himself, nor does he need a god to determine the meaning he finds in life. Had he chosen to recognize a god, I would have respected that freedom. But he has chosen a different path, one that offers more flexibility and more creative liberties.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by vethumanbeing
It will only turn into a bloodfest if you don't have the maturity to handle such discussion.
Not sure splitting the dialoge (or containment of) into pros and cons of atheism (another thread) would work,
An informed decision is what I want them to have. If they decide to be atheist, good on them. If they decide to stick to religion, good on them still. So this development gives me mixed feelings: while I am certain I have not damned my friend in converting him, I also am responsible for any loss of meaning or direction he may discover as a result. So now I'm a little concerned about what the future may hold for the emotional stability of my friend.
You have no experience with any formal training; no deep understanding of the theological, history or in practice (yes you never attended Loyola, or the Moody Institute, or were an alterboy; customs of the RCC). What in the world makes you think you are qualified to actually change anothers faith? Something is so wrong here, you a freind of his for indeterment months can do this to another person with such convincing? Have you had any kind of professional schooling counsuling experience, are you a PHD in psychotherapy, or at least have an Associates equivilent? You can get to a persons heart? He needs you before he needs a God Concept. That is not another Mans Job to determine anothers fate. Someone said a page or 2 ago, that you determine your the place you reside after dropping this body (Colbe?). That is a certainty, whether it be 70 virgins or NOTHINGNESS you will have that desired outcome (its all on you).
Ah. Gotcha. Well, to put it simply: there's millions of people who believe in a deity. What this deity wants, they want, because they're so in love with this deity. What they want, affects how they understand, approach, and interact with reality in general. So the nature of this deity, whether it exists or not, still influences the people who believe in it.
I'm not assigning blame. I'm making observations.
vethumanbeing You have no experience with any formal training; no deep understanding of the theological, history or in practice (yes you never attended Loyola, or the Moody Institute, or were an alterboy; customs of the RCC). What in the world makes you think you are qualified to actually change anothers faith? Something is so wrong here, you a freind of his for indeterment months can do this to another person with such convincing? Have you had any kind of professional schooling counsuling experience, are you a PHD in psychotherapy, or at least have an Associates equivilent? You can get to a persons heart? He needs you before he needs a God Concept. That is not another Mans Job to determine anothers fate. Someone said a page or 2 ago, that you determine your the place you reside after dropping this body (Colbe?). That is a certainty, whether it be 70 virgins or NOTHINGNESS you will have that desired outcome (its all on you).
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I'm sure if you don't need it, I don't either. And if I do need it...please, post the evidence proving that a deity is necessary - absolutely necessary, mind you - for a healthy and productive lifestyle. I expect a plethora of conclusive articles and examinations from professional and unbiased sources. Like I said before:
I never promised the answer. I only promised my answer as shared with my friend.
From where I sit, it looks you're trying to use "God" as the "Satan" of "Atheism". I don't quite "getcha", but that's okay... I'll get over it.
I have NEVER EVER said that one should believe in a GodForm, nor would I preach to its authenticity.
YOU on the otherhand do this, Convert another to the authenticity of a NON NO GO GOD? What gives you the right?
Why would you do such a thing unless the truth is obvious, you have a problem with anger and abandonment issues.
I have never met a lay person such as you that without resources or STUDY retains such an Egomaniacal stance, personal gain ego satisfaction, self stroking.
I would/could reference a ANOTHER RCC Gay Man with no technical skills that is handicapped being converted to Atheism in just a matter of a few hours, but I just looked and you are the only one (surprised)?.