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Originally posted by Bedlam
Originally posted by siliconpsychosis
I don't think it matters what anybody says to the OP. He has been brainwashed into thinking that every scientific endeavour he is incapable of understanding is evil and out to get him.
You know, there are a lot of people like that, though.
I see something like HAARP and think, wow, that would be fun to subcontract on, let's call BAE and see if we can get some of that. Although EISCAT-3D would be even MORE fun. I'd like to get my hands on a piece of that action too.
I love working on things like this. It's one of the benefits of being a member of the military-industrial complex.
I don't see why there are so many people on this thread who are contributing little to the point of the thread, but are just locking horns in order to score points....
It would have been more interesting to be able to split the array and deliver multiple beams at multiple frequencies or polarizations.
So you have a submarine that can travel below 100 feet so how do you communicate with it?
Originally posted by totallackey
reply to post by Kashai
So you have a submarine that can travel below 100 feet so how do you communicate with it?
The submarine deploys a buoyed antennae by means of a cable and winch.
Originally posted by Bedlam
reply to post by siliconpsychosis
Yeah, while I won't say I don't really give a rip about the atmospheric plasma physics aspects of it, it's true I'm more interested in it as a radio design.
Yeah, some of you should DENY IGNORANCE, if you believe HAARP is being used to communicate with submarines, underwater. Sure, they're gonna bounce a signal off of the ionosphere, just so they can send that signal beneath the water. Never mind the transmission that would get lost, throughout the journey. I'm GLAD none of you are "scientists".
*Steerable Antennae: can aim 3.6 million watts of ELF waves, into one tiny patch in the atmosphere
The most prominent instrument at the HAARP Station is the Ionospheric Research Instrument (IRI), a high-power radio frequency transmitter facility operating in the high frequency (HF) band.
This will enable scientists to develop methods to mitigate these effects to improve the reliability or performance of communication and navigation systems which would have a wide range of both civilian and military uses, such as an increased accuracy of GPS navigation and advances in underwater and underground research and applications. This may lead to improved methods for submarine communication or an ability to remotely sense and map the mineral content of the terrestrial subsurface, and perhaps underground complexes, of regions or countries, among other things. The current facility lacks range to be used in regions like the Middle East, according to one of the researchers involved, but the technology could be put on a mobile platform.[5]
Originally posted by WonderBoi
Yeah, some of you should DENY IGNORANCE, if you believe HAARP is being used to communicate with submarines, underwater. Sure, they're gonna bounce a signal off of the ionosphere, just so they can send that signal beneath the water. Never mind the transmission that would get lost, throughout the journey. I'm GLAD none of you are "scientists".
First of all, the points i made, like this:
Originally posted by totallackey
reply to post by WonderBoi
Yeah, some of you should DENY IGNORANCE, if you believe HAARP is being used to communicate with submarines, underwater. Sure, they're gonna bounce a signal off of the ionosphere, just so they can send that signal beneath the water. Never mind the transmission that would get lost, throughout the journey. I'm GLAD none of you are "scientists".
Funny...you posted this tidbit in your OP...
*Steerable Antennae: can aim 3.6 million watts of ELF waves, into one tiny patch in the atmosphere
Now, since there is no doubt both the US and former USSR have utilized ELF for submarine communication, WITHOUT loss of signal, it seems you are the one who should deny ignorance...never mind the FACT HAARP does not transmit in the ELF range...
The most prominent instrument at the HAARP Station is the Ionospheric Research Instrument (IRI), a high-power radio frequency transmitter facility operating in the high frequency (HF) band.
This will enable scientists to develop methods to mitigate these effects to improve the reliability or performance of communication and navigation systems which would have a wide range of both civilian and military uses, such as an increased accuracy of GPS navigation and advances in underwater and underground research and applications. This may lead to improved methods for submarine communication or an ability to remotely sense and map the mineral content of the terrestrial subsurface, and perhaps underground complexes, of regions or countries, among other things. The current facility lacks range to be used in regions like the Middle East, according to one of the researchers involved, but the technology could be put on a mobile platform.[5]
HAARP Wiki
So, the work being performed has, as one of its objectives, improved communications...
were points made in the video. You would have known that, if you watched the video. Do yourself a favor, learn more about the invisible realm of our world. You got a lot more to learn.
*Steerable Antennae: can aim 3.6 million watts of ELF waves, into one tiny patch in the atmosphere
Scientists among you? Where is your SCIENTIFIC PROOF, that HAARP is just a "research facility"? All i've seen, is blah, blah, blah, from you and your crew of "scientists". (LAUGHABLE) I've been rereading this thread, and noticed, you all stick up and "star" each other, to make it seem like you got the facts. But yet, i see no actual information, to back up your claims. You're another person that needs to learn about our invisible world. And, sorry to say, you don't know what HAARP can or can't do. IMO, your word means SQUAT; and neither does the word of our mighty dictators.
Originally posted by siliconpsychosis
Originally posted by WonderBoi
Yeah, some of you should DENY IGNORANCE, if you believe HAARP is being used to communicate with submarines, underwater. Sure, they're gonna bounce a signal off of the ionosphere, just so they can send that signal beneath the water. Never mind the transmission that would get lost, throughout the journey. I'm GLAD none of you are "scientists".
Deny ignorance about what, precisely? I know 99% of us are denying your ignorance....
Judging by several participants in the thread there are several scientists amongst us. Just because you don't understand the things being posted here, and continue on your merry journey of fantasy does not mean we cannot have debate and discussion on what HAARP could, possibly, achieve. Weather modification however is not one of those possibilities.edit on 9-6-2013 by siliconpsychosis because: (no reason given)
...were points made in the video. You would have known that, if you watched the video. Do yourself a favor, learn more about the invisible realm of our world. You got a lot more to learn.
*Steerable Antennae: can aim 3.6 million watts of ELF waves, into one tiny patch in the atmosphere
Originally posted by WonderBoi
Scientists among you? Where is your SCIENTIFIC PROOF, that HAARP is just a "research facility"? All i've seen, is blah, blah, blah, from you and your crew of "scientists". (LAUGHABLE) I've been rereading this thread, and noticed, you all stick up and "star" each other, to make it seem like you got the facts. But yet, i see no actual information, to back up your claims. You're another person that needs to learn about our invisible world. And, sorry to say, you don't know what HAARP can or can't do. IMO, your word means SQUAT; and neither does the word of our mighty dictators.
I think sleep, is a better option, for some. You can't handle the truth.
Scientists among you? Where is your SCIENTIFIC PROOF, that HAARP is just a "research facility"? All i've seen, is blah, blah, blah, from you and your crew of "scientists". (LAUGHABLE) I've been rereading this thread, and noticed, you all stick up and "star" each other, to make it seem like you got the facts. But yet, i see no actual information, to back up your claims. You're another person that needs to learn about our invisible world. And, sorry to say, you don't know what HAARP can or can't do. IMO, your word means SQUAT; and neither does the word of our mighty dictators.
Yeah, some of you should DENY IGNORANCE, if you believe HAARP is being used to communicate with submarines, underwater. Sure, they're gonna bounce a signal off of the ionosphere, just so they can send that signal beneath the water. Never mind the transmission that would get lost, throughout the journey. I'm GLAD none of you are "scientists".