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Why Father must use destruction to get mans attention

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posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:11 AM
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Jesus is not your brother, He is your King.
Jesus is not a creation, which means He is also not an angel.
Jesus is God. And God Himself was born into His own creation through His chosen vessel. The Enemy could not fathom that God, in His eternal perfection, would be able to incarnate Himself through His own birth into His own creation, despite its subsequent fall into imperfection. Imagine the surprise when he figured out God's loophole for incorruptible perfection to be born into and live among that which He cannot look upon.

God is pouring out His Spirit upon those seeking Him in humility with their whole heart, for now is the time of harvest before the culmination of all things.
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posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:14 AM
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Synchronicity is defined as a coincidence that has a deep meaning or that happens in a meaningful way. I don't see a word being said at the same time as having any kind of deep meaning, but to each his own.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:14 AM
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Jesus is not a creation, which means He is also not an angel.


I did not state Brother was an angel. He was the first created before all.
Angels are not even angels in the sense that they are messengers. They do much more than just pass messages.



Jesus is God


Father and Brother are separate. When Brother was here, he and Father were one. But, above, he is seated to his immediate right.



God is pouring out His Spirit upon those seeking Him in humility with their whole heart, for now is the time of harvest before the culmination of all things.


This is of truth, you seem to think I think differently.
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posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:15 AM
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Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
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Synchronicity is defined as a coincidence that has a deep meaning or that happens in a meaningful way. I don't see a word being said at the same time as having any kind of deep meaning, but to each his own.


This is where the problems begin. When one dismisses something as not Father giving a nudge or direction, man chooses his own way.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:16 AM
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I like choosing my own way, if I didn't I wouldn't like free will, and who doesn't like free will?

The example I gave doesn't really have any reason to be a nudge in a certain direction. What if the word is potato? Is father telling me to eat a potato? Kind of a silly example, but I think it makes a point.
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posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:16 AM
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Originally posted by Angle

Originally posted by WashMoreFeet

It is impossible to go forward in time, before the actual decisions are made.


I'm thinking of the verse "With my Father in Heaven, everything is possible". Would that be a lie?


With God all things are possible. This still does not negate my point. Only God knows the end from the beginning and the beginning from the end.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:18 AM
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posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:19 AM
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Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
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I like choosing my own way, if I didn't I wouldn't like free will, and who doesn't like free will?


This is the beauty of the current setup. Man thinks he does things on his own.



The example I gave doesn't really have any reason to be a nudge in a certain direction. What if the word is potato? Is father telling me to eat a potato? Kind of a silly example, but I think it makes a point.


Of course. But, what if you said potato, and the person sitting next to you, now remembers what they needed to pick up at the grocery store.
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posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:20 AM
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I am speaking of others in the unseen. (guides, elders, archs, etc.) I use to always try to please them, when focus should be on Father alone.

I used to fight with them. Then I learned to hang out with them. Neither fighting nor hanging out seemed to get me closer to the One who is beyond comprehension. Focus didn't seem to help either.

I think trying to help people may be a better course.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:21 AM
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So in reality, free will doesn't exist and it's only an illusion?



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:22 AM
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But what if it doesn't?



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:23 AM
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Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
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So in reality, free will doesn't exist and it's only an illusion?


You edited your post, and I edited mine to reflect a response.

Yes, you are correct, it is only an illusion. Man has limited free will.

Man has not shown he is capable of doing it on his own.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:23 AM
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Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
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So in reality, free will doesn't exist and it's only an illusion?


Free will is not the same as Gods will...




posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:24 AM
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Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
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But what if it doesn't?


Then that is chance.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:24 AM
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I think free will is God's will personally. If you aren't free then you are enslaved.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:25 AM
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So everything doesn't have a reason...?



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:27 AM
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Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
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So everything doesn't have a reason...?


Most of all, yes. But, you laughing at a joke, is your choice. Some things are chance, but most is for a reason. If man was completely free, there would be no need for guides, rewinds, Brother coming here to allow man to come back home, etc.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:27 AM
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There is no such thing as "limited" free will. Free implies unlimited, if it is limited then it is not free.



posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:28 AM
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Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
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I think free will is God's will personally. If you aren't free then you are enslaved.


Nothing makes you follow Gods will... You to follow it or carve your own path...

free will always prevails unless God chooses otherwise...




posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:29 AM
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Originally posted by WashMoreFeet


Only God knows the end from the beginning and the beginning from the end.




Yes, but you said it is impossible to...., and then my mind switched immediatly to that verse



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