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Originally posted by BanTv
reply to post by anicetus
As someone who wants to stay off cigarettes, I care.
I also want to see others have the same opportunity as I did. Many of us have enough liquid nicotine to last us years. We could be selfish and not care what regulations are put in place, but we're fighting for everyone who may want to quit smoking in the near future.
Originally posted by Danbones
The pesticide nicotine whether in Nat ciggies or e ciggies is an addictive drug and should be taxed like one;
just wait till they figure out GMO corn makes the stuff too:
Once they get rid of that pesky competition from safe REAL corn, wait till you see the taxes on the GMO stuff
But with that said, the water vapor released from these electronic devices poses no such risk, as far as I am aware. There are no carcinogenic substances being released, so where is the danger? I am curious as to what happens to the nicotine. Is there any released in this water vapor that is absorbed into the air of the location where the device is being used? Can nicotine even exist as an aerosol like this? There are questions that I have, but from what I think I know I cannot determine that this would be dangerous to anyone.
Method. Analysis of published data on nicotine absorption, and informal comments of
bystanders, and observation of e-cigarette smoking indoors.
Results. Cigarette smoke is a mixture of sidestream smoke and exhaled mainstream
smoke. In constrast, the e-cigarette generates no sidestream smoke from its (artificially
lit) tip. Any exhaled PG mist visibly dissipates to vapor within seconds. Non-smoking
bystanders do not find the mist unpleasant. The mist is odorless, and those close by
quickly realize it does not have the odor of smoke or the irritating quality of tobacco
cigarette smoke.
Comments. Inhaled nicotine in cigarette smoke is over 98% absorbed 6, and so the
exhaled mist of the e-cigarette is composed of propylene glycol, and probably contains
almost no nicotine; and no CO. (see Figure 3.5) Lacking any active ingredient or any
gaseous products of combustion, the PG mist or ‘smoke’ is not harmful to bystanders.
The ‘smoke’ or mist is not tobacco smoke, and not from combustion – no flame is lit –
and is not defined as environmental tobacco smoke. E-cigarette “smoking” would be
permitted under New Zealand’s Smoke-free Environments Act 1990.33
Originally posted by NoJoker13
reply to post by Bootyac
Well a growing and disturbing trend is that I've seen children starting to smoke these very often since they are starting to say it's not a 'real' cigarette. I think the more this is in public the more children seem to think it's acceptable to do. Not saying I completely agree with the legislation but the act of 'smoking' something indoors leads to a trend of it being acceptable.edit on 26-5-2013 by NoJoker13 because: (no reason given)
Good "research". Your surprisal and simply not believing me, is irrelevant to me and my annoyance of the allergic reaction I have when using or being around the electronic cigarettes, which I have no reason to lie about due to the fact that I am a heavy tobacco user. I really wish I could use these electronic cigarettes, since I really want to quit using tobacco and I love the flavor of the one I tried. Good to know what they say are in these electronic cigarettes. I'm not advocating anything, I'm simply implying that "I could care less.". You do know what the word "advocate" means, right? Well, if you did, you would understand that I'm not advocating anything, I'm simply giving a personal opinion and experience to do with the subject at hand.
Some of the vapors or nicotine emitted by the e-cigarettes may pose health risks
Originally posted by Evanzsayz
reply to post by Bootyac
Some of the vapors or nicotine emitted by the e-cigarettes may pose health risks
I've wondered the same myself.
Originally posted by NoJoker13
reply to post by Bootyac
Well a growing and disturbing trend is that I've seen children starting to smoke these very often since they are starting to say it's not a 'real' cigarette. I think the more this is in public the more children seem to think it's acceptable to do. Not saying I completely agree with the legislation but the act of 'smoking' something indoors leads to a trend of it being acceptable.edit on 26-5-2013 by NoJoker13 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jimmyb0nz
I think the e-cig is crap, you want to breathe something other than air, do it in your own area. Don't add nicotine to my breathing environment, I don't care what carcinogens you "think" aren't present. If I decide to vaporize some crack and blow it into your airspace, you may have some issues with that, but this is ONLY nicotine we're talking about, nothing harmful right? You're inhaling AND exhaling the substance that took me and many others an eternity to quit, fighting still to this day. It's a substance unnecessary for survival and if someone was puffin an e cig near my child I'd have something to say.
Originally posted by MysterX
not least the recent decision to prescribe it to overweight and obese kids to lower appetite.