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Originally posted by iwilliam
Originally posted by jimmyb0nz
I think the e-cig is crap, you want to breathe something other than air, do it in your own area. Don't add nicotine to my breathing environment, I don't care what carcinogens you "think" aren't present. If I decide to vaporize some crack and blow it into your airspace, you may have some issues with that, but this is ONLY nicotine we're talking about, nothing harmful right? You're inhaling AND exhaling the substance that took me and many others an eternity to quit, fighting still to this day. It's a substance unnecessary for survival and if someone was puffin an e cig near my child I'd have something to say.
This is a ridiculous comment born of ignorance. Add nicotine to your breathing environment? Hardly. Many of these vaporizors do not produce a vapor so thick that very much of anything comes out on exhale. Some use a bit more of the base, so there is more vapor produced-- but the amount of nicotine in the solution is small, and because there isn't much else in the vapor (as opposed to tobbacco smoke) most of this is efficiently absorbed by the lungs of the person vaporizing.
You would literally have to suck the air out of the mouth of the person vaporizing to get any appreciable level of anything. Stop being paranoid and ridiculous.
Vaporize some crack? That sounds a lot like a straw man argument. The two drugs can not be compared.
If I puff an e-cig around you or your child, I double dare you to say something to me, friend. We'll see how that one turns out
sure thing Spock
Your comment in the second paragraph shows a lack of understanding of what was meant by sealing's comment-- on top of the fact that your own smart self made a point that is logically inconsistent with your own argument.
Originally posted by jimmyb0nz
reply to post by marhaba
HA HA HA, a study performed and peer approved by a vaporizing group. Sure, let's go back to the 80's and listen to tobacco lobbyists while we're at it.
Originally posted by sealing
Originally posted by jimmyb0nz
I think the e-cig is crap, you want to breathe something other than air, do it in your own area. Don't add nicotine to my breathing environment, I don't care what carcinogens you "think" aren't present. If I decide to vaporize some crack and blow it into your airspace, you may have some issues with that, but this is ONLY nicotine we're talking about, nothing harmful right? You're inhaling AND exhaling the substance that took me and many others an eternity to quit, fighting still to this day. It's a substance unnecessary for survival and if someone was puffin an e cig near my child I'd have something to say.
Yeah well I like oxygen so dont breathe in my space with all
the carbon dioxide your converting.
Originally posted by jimmyb0nz
reply to post by boncho
Not sure what you mean but go for it. I'm not against the ecig or cigarettes and I don't care about anyones studies on their effects on people. I've used both products and even worse ones on myself. I'm not "save the children" or anything. All I said was don't crap in our public pool, do it in your own, just out of courtesy, enough people peeing in it already. Sorry someone is telling anyone what they can or cannot do in a public place, that sure does suck to have restrictions in life. I'm glad cigs were banned in restricted areas and I hope e cigs go the same way. Your entitled to disagree.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going down to the park naked to drink. It will only harm you if you look.
Originally posted by jimmyb0nz
reply to post by boncho
Not sure what you mean but go for it. I'm not against the ecig or cigarettes and I don't care about anyones studies on their effects on people. I've used both products and even worse ones on myself. I'm not "save the children" or anything. All I said was don't crap in our public pool, do it in your own, just out of courtesy, enough people peeing in it already. Sorry someone is telling anyone what they can or cannot do in a public place, that sure does suck to have restrictions in life. I'm glad cigs were banned in restricted areas and I hope e cigs go the same way. Your entitled to disagree.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going down to the park naked to drink. It will only harm you if you look.
Glycerol is not for breathing, it's a fairly new chemical carrier that very little research has been done on. Ever touched Glycerol, very slimy and wet. When heated it vaporizes, but as it cools condenses into a liquid form again. Not sure a slimy wet substance in your sensitive breathing organ is very good, but I'm no doctor.
Originally posted by fnpmitchreturns
OK all you whiners about this drug delivery system called an E-Cig is nothing more than an electronic needle put in your lips to get a dose of a highly addictive nicotine.... let's be honest
My question is why is it so available to start with.........
Originally posted by fnpmitchreturns
OK all you whiners about this drug delivery system called an E-Cig is nothing more than an electronic needle put in your lips to get a dose of a highly addictive nicotine.... let's be honest
My question is why is it so available to start with.........
Originally posted by fnpmitchreturns
reply to post by BanTv
I understand why the (ecigs) exist... I understand why people keep smoking .. the addiction ..... I just think that nicotine should be even more regulated..... nicotine is more addictive than crack coc aine ... yet it remains legal ......
by using the rational of keeping nicotine legal would equate to legalizing a substance as addictive heroin ......