reply to post by pyrael
Nice sentiment, however you are working within the irrational confines of the adage GOD=love. I respectfully disagree. Here's a list of God's acts of
"love" upon his "children" in Event, biblical entry and number of deaths.
I realize many are estimates, however I'm sure we can all judge those estimates as probable, based on the assumption of how many people most likely
lived at that point in time. In MY opinion, if God were to be tried by a judge and jury, on HIS laws alone, he would be executed as a mass murderer,
or at the very least, have a cell next to Charlie Manson's.
Let me open your eyes a bit. The God outside the universe, that made the mechanism of what the Gnostics call the ALL, is not the same as what you are
referring to above. In Genesis 1, we have Elohim doing the imaging of creation by archetype. In Genesis 2, we have the LORD (YHVH) constructing the
heavens and Earth (Material Realm. The Real Reality of the Father is Paradise and the world to come. It is in perfection and is the Kingdom of God.
We are in the Kingdom of the Lord, which is an image for sacrifice before we inherit our place in the true kingdom. The Lord is the Son of God listed
15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth,
visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all
things, and in him all things hold together. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead,
so that in everything he might have the supremacy. 19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, 20 and through him to reconcile to
himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.
This fullness of God did not rest on the Son until this moment in time 2000 years ago. Before this, he was a Son being raised in the wilderness just
like you and I. Not only was he the one being raised, but all of mankind was generated by His creation. Not only this, but we are then governed by
the Lord of the Genesis 2 Creation. Examine the Genealogy in Luke.
38 the son of Enosh,
the son of Seth, the son of Adam,
the son of God.
First, you have the Son of God. He is the primordial Soul and Construct of the Cosmos. The Son of God was given so that you and I can live. The
first century and the Cross were only demonstrations in historical parable for us to see what came before any of us were born. We are a dual nature
here on Earth. We are the Father (Spirit / Lord of God) and we are the Soul. One must find love for the other for our union with the groom to take
1 Corinthians 10 then outlines this for us in another parable.
17 Because there is one loaf, we, who are many, are one body, for we all share the one loaf.
We, who are many, are One loaf of Bread. That loaf is Christ. What is on either side of the loaf? The heel.
1 Corinthians 15
If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 45 So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”[f]; the last Adam, a
Adam is the one in Genesis 3 that crushes the Head of Satan. He is the heel.
“Cursed are you above all livestock
and all wild animals!
You will crawl on your belly
and you will eat dust
all the days of your life.
15 And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring[a] and hers;
he will crush your head,
and you will strike his heel.”
I say all this to show you your misconception. When you judge God from the OT, you are really judging yourself. You are slices of this loaf. The
Son of God is being raised in the wilderness and that Son is you and I collectively. God is separate from the Son. We are the prodigal Sons
separated from the Father until we reach back to Him for salvation. Judging the OT God is judging the Son (YOU) being raised as a child. This is not
God. How can I confirm this?
25 I know that my redeemer lives,
and that in the end he will stand on the earth.
26 And after my skin has been destroyed,
yet in my flesh I will see God;
27 I myself will see him
with my own eyes—I, and not another.
How my heart yearns within me!
---Here is the real kicker. Read closely.
28 “If you say, ‘How we will hound him,
since the root of the trouble lies in him,’
29 you should fear the sword yourselves;
for wrath will bring punishment by the sword,
and then you will know that there is judgment.
First, he knows His Redeemer (ADAM). He knows the error came through Him. Here is the catch. If YOU say, "How we will hound him, since the root of
the trouble lies in Him (What you are really saying by judging the OT), then you will suffer the judgement HE already suffered so YOU could be set
We may not agree with the Son's progress through the wilderness, but then again, it's HIS Spirit we all enjoy. He takes and he gives back. You must
be born again. Even Old Job knew this. HE will see his redeemer with his eyes and his flesh. That's because Job will be here among us to see the
redeemer rule. All 7 billion of us are here to see this happen.
15 and I have the same hope in God as these men themselves have, that there will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked. 16 So I
strive always to keep my conscience clear before God and man.
Both the righteous and wicked will be together on the last, all resurrected from the dead at one time.
1 The words of the blessing of Enoch, wherewith he blessed the elect and righteous, who will be
2 living in the day of tribulation, when all the wicked and godless are to be removed. And he took up his
parable and said −Enoch a righteous man, whose eyes were opened by God, saw the vision of the Holy One
in the heavens, which the angels showed me, and from them I heard everything, and from them I understood
as I saw, but not for this generation, but for a remote one which is for to come.
See what he says here. The righteous MUST be present with the wicked to see them judged. All the wicked need to do is seek God. My OP challenge is
the first step. Why wouldn't I warn you?
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