Sequester Was The Right Thing To Do: Dow Just Hit 15,003 : Private Sector Growing Economy

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posted on May, 3 2013 @ 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
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Our economy is the envy of the world.


Yup... the whole world wants a national debt in excess of 100% to GDP and climbing ..85t a month, with absolutely no sign of slowing.


Wait until interest and inflation come off near flat line positions. Then the fun REALLY begins. I noticed the other day, a commercial was showing a happy couple buying their new home. The American Dream! ....with an APR mortgage. (face palm). My wife and I said, almost in unison..'poor bastards...
'. No one learned a thing. It's record low rates but the kick into the street with a foreclosure comes when inflation starts acting within the laws of basic economics again.

That should be when the points really start counting ...pun intended.


The world sees our $16 Trillion GDP and says WOW!

We can/will grow our way out of this mess.




posted on May, 3 2013 @ 10:38 AM
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I agree entirely ... then they see our Debt even higher with compounding interest to keep it building, no matter what the deficit is each year and likely amend that to "WOW! ....they're screwed!' lol.....



posted on May, 3 2013 @ 10:39 AM
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I love the stock market and my 401k

Just my personal point of view but life is great managing to put over $3k away every month in my 401k the when it matures I take and buy stock.



posted on May, 3 2013 @ 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by TauCetixeta

Originally posted by camaro68ss

Originally posted by TauCetixeta

Originally posted by camaro68ss

Originally posted by TauCetixeta

Originally posted by OptimusSubprime
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The Dow is NOT an economic indicator. The reason the Dow is doing "so well" is because corporations are buying back their own stock, and the value of the Dow is GROSSLY overvalued. A crash the likes of which we have never seen is coming. Believe the hype if you want to.


Read that article why the Dow is doing so well.

The U.S.Economy is growing at around 2.5%.

Jobs are being created.

Now is not the time for Doom & Gloom.


The market is doing so well because the federal reserve is pumping 85 billion dollars of printed money into it monthly.

The participation rate for jobs is at 1979 levels! That’s not a growing economy. These data points provided by the government are so manipulated, its not even funny.

Argentina stock market rose 75% this year. They must be doing a fantastic job!!!! NOT, its called inflation and that’s what id does, inflates stock prices as well as all commodities
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Keep going. US Economy GDP jumped over $16 Trillion.

Our economy is the envy of the world.

We have a Natural Gas BOOM in the USA Economy. Fracking is on the move.

Keystone Pipeline is on the way.


Im sorry, im going to call you out, your talking points are so on, someone must be paying you to post this mindless garbage.

Some points being true as they may, are only because the market is being heavily manipulated by the central banks and federal reserve. The proof is all around us and is even admitted openly to the public. You have to be deaf dumb and blind to believe this garbage.


So, there really is no Keystone Pipeline? Hmmm.....

Are Natural Gas prices high or low?

The real estate market booming again? True or False?

Stop being a Mr. Crankypants.
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there all true like i said above but what does the Keystone pipline have to do with the DOW at 15,000? GAS is still $3.80 where i live

What does Nat Gas being low have to do with the DOW 15,000? can you line the dots up on this one for me?

Real Estate boom? hardly. only the larger more expensive homes are rising in price. (rich getting richer)

These factors still to awnser my question on why the workforce participation rate is at 1979 levels. Help me line the dots, I need perspective.



posted on May, 3 2013 @ 10:43 AM
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They haven't fixed anything. Just buried it under the manure pile. This thing is going to blow fueled by the gasses of the manure. Since when did the manure pile become a basket to put all your eggs in?



posted on May, 3 2013 @ 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
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I agree entirely ... then they see our Debt even higher with compounding interest to keep it building, no matter what the deficit is each year and likely amend that to "WOW! ....they're screwed!' lol.....


Our future is bright.

Look at the strength of our Fortune 500.

There is a good reason everyone wants to come to America.

Land of the Free : Home of the Brave



posted on May, 3 2013 @ 10:44 AM
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Yeah, exactly, usually you can bet on the exact opposite of what wall street and the media are selling.



posted on May, 3 2013 @ 10:45 AM
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Natural Gas power plants are replacing coal fired power plants.

They burn cleaner and operate at higher profit margins due to the low cost of

natural gas.
Wall Street loves high profit margins.

Look at Apple.



posted on May, 3 2013 @ 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by mikell
I love the stock market and my 401k

Just my personal point of view but life is great managing to put over $3k away every month in my 401k the when it matures I take and buy stock.


As long as your making over 10% YOY, your breaking even VS inflation

www.shadowstats.com...



posted on May, 3 2013 @ 10:46 AM
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G7 central banks printing in excess of $150B per month and openly buying foreign equities. So, it's inflating on printed money.

Participation in equity markets is narrowing rapidly as most people are waking up to the fact that it's a rigged casino that can go to zero overnight. Institutions and sovereigns are the main participants. Trying to keep the status quo alive.

If you are going to ride the inflation of equity markets just buy index funds. The music will end though, and I promise the little guys will get reamed. In the next round of bank failures they will be seizing 401k's and giving you bank common stock and US treasuries with a negative interest rate in return. They could also choose to re-value the dollar overnight. The only protection you have from that is real estate or physical precious metal in your possession.

rant over.



posted on May, 3 2013 @ 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by mikell
I love the stock market and my 401k

Just my personal point of view but life is great managing to put over $3k away every month in my 401k the when it matures I take and buy stock.


Quarterly dividends are doing much better than 2 Year T-Notes.

Multiple Revenue Streams = Higher Net Worth

Talk like this drives the Secular Progressives absolutely insane.



posted on May, 3 2013 @ 10:50 AM
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Originally posted by TauCetixeta
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Natural Gas power plants are replacing coal fired power plants.

They burn cleaner and operate at higher profit margins due to the low cost of

natural gas.
Wall Street loves high profit margins.

Look at Apple.


Please provide me with a link to the new replaced Nat Gas power plants that are being built. should be easy for you because there are so many right?

HAHAHA, how is Nat gases "replaced" power plants increaseing Apples stocks? last i checked Apple stocks fell almost 50% in the last 3-4 months. Why did apple just start selling 1,2,5,10, and 30 year bonds the start of this week if there doing so well!!!

So all the market highs are due to Nat Gas in your eyes? hahahaha



posted on May, 3 2013 @ 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by InverseLookingGlass
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G7 central banks printing in excess of $150B per month and openly buying foreign equities. So, it's inflating on printed money.

Participation in equity markets is narrowing rapidly as most people are waking up to the fact that it's a rigged casino that can go to zero overnight. Institutions and sovereigns are the main participants. Trying to keep the status quo alive.

If you are going to ride the inflation of equity markets just buy index funds. The music will end though, and I promise the little guys will get reamed. In the next round of bank failures they will be seizing 401k's and giving you bank common stock and US treasuries with a negative interest rate in return. They could also choose to re-value the dollar overnight. The only protection you have from that is real estate or physical precious metal in your possession.

rant over.


Take profits in the U.S. Stock Market and go buy a new home in a great location.


BTW, did you hear Facebook has over 1.1 Billion users now?

There are success stories all over America.



posted on May, 3 2013 @ 10:52 AM
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With company donation I'm making over %50 thats why I'nm stuffing everything in I can till I reach the limit next month



posted on May, 3 2013 @ 10:55 AM
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The U.S. Stock Market is higher for many reasons. I have listed a few.

The main reason America is unstoppable is because we have a financially

strong middle class. Free Market Capitalism works.



posted on May, 3 2013 @ 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by TauCetixeta
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The U.S. Stock Market is higher for many reasons. I have listed a few.

The main reason America is unstoppable is because we have a financially

strong middle class. Free Market Capitalism works.


your listing have no correlation with the stock markets, you fail

This is not a free market capitalism, that died over 100 years ago.



posted on May, 3 2013 @ 11:09 AM
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This is my thinking as well. I'd be betting against the market in the short term at this point. It is bound to take a bit of "profit taking" and a plunge. Not a crash but my spidey senses are telling me that 15000 is a good psycholocal ring to it as well. After a little "profit taking" that is. It will keep around 15000 for a bit of time IMHO.

But as someone pointed out earlier the Fed has been pumping billions monthly into this mess. Add to that we are gearing up for two wars (Iran and Syria) while (pfft) winding down two wars (Iraq and Afghanistan). Not to mention the Somali and Yemen sideshows. There is heavy salivating going on at these prospects so I can see another angle why.

THe Ptrol-Dollar is being dismantled by BRICS +2.

I can see why the Fed is doing what it is doing and the DOW is so high. THere is money to be made. Problem is... it ain't us.

401Ks... pfft. In time things will really get serious with the haircuts but IMHO and with my crappy prediction skills Ill still feel as if a good haircut is still a few years off. Too many moneymaking long term "investments" to be made provided by War Inc.



posted on May, 3 2013 @ 11:16 AM
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Originally posted by camaro68ss

Originally posted by TauCetixeta
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The U.S. Stock Market is higher for many reasons. I have listed a few.

The main reason America is unstoppable is because we have a financially

strong middle class. Free Market Capitalism works.


your listing have no correlation with the stock markets, you fail

This is not a free market capitalism, that died over 100 years ago.


Our Economic System appears to be performing better than anyone elses

economic systems.

What other nation on Earth matches our Fortune 500?



posted on May, 3 2013 @ 11:29 AM
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Funny thing is that people were saying something very similar in 07', and we all know how 08' went. In 2007 the DOW was at record breaking highs and all was good and right with the US economy nothing could get in it's way, that is until 08' rolled around and there was nothing right or good with the economy. In just 6 short months decades of peoples savings and retirement funds in the form of 401k's were wiped out almost completely.

Keep cheering it on, because this cycle is doomed to repeat itself, just look at the historical chart for the DOW and you will see what is coming.

DJIA Historical Chart
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posted on May, 3 2013 @ 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by SpaDe_
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Funny thing is that people were saying something very similar in 07', and we all know how 08' went. In 2007 the DOW was at record breaking highs and all was good and right with the US economy nothing could get in it's way, that is until 08' rolled around and there was nothing right or good with the economy. In just 6 short months decades of peoples savings and retirement funds in the form of 401k's were wiped out almost completely.

Keep cheering it on, because this cycle is doomed to repeat itself, just look at the historical chart for the DOW and you will see what is coming.


A bubble only burst when its at its largest.





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