Who else has the nagging feeling that this election was a fraud ?

Originally posted by worldwatcher
Our Elections are a fraud because all candidates are not treated equally or given equal coverage.

Our Elections are a fraud, because there is no verifiable paper trail with electronic voting.

Our Elections are a fraud because all votes are not equal and all votes do not count.

You go girl. You are so right. And Lady V you are right on the mark also. These bushies are so blind. They are gonna be in for a real wakeup call when the sh..... hits the fan.

have you heard about Bush's connections to the Christian Coalition in order to win this election? If anyone can find a link PLEASE post it here so that I can further research this.

Originally posted by LadyV

Originally posted by smokenmirrors
Integrity, truth and morality won this election for the Republicans.

BULL! Religion has NO business in our government! BUT even if you want to look at it this way....you bible thumpers are in for such a surprise! Actions speak louder than words....he may say he is a Christian but his actions are not the actions of man that follows any teaching of Jesus, at least not as I understand it....of course a lot of Christians say one thing and do another...why is it that you think that America will always be sitting at the top of the heap....it won't...it is heading down hill quickly, and I don't think we will be able to survive another four years of Bushes type of morality! Why is it that you Bushers, seem to think it's ok to kill steal and lie? Why are you more concerned about what two people do privately, than breaking all of the Christians 10 commandments? How truly odd this is to me......

Interesting tidbit....I never mentioned the bible, and for your information, am not a bible thumper, neither do I attend church. The simple fact is, proven once again by the inherent anger in your post, that the liberal left is blinded by their own hatred and rage. It is a shame you cry the same rhetoric. I personally care not what 2 people do privately, and do not condemn them, my posts have shown clearly my beliefs of why the liberal left is out of power in this nation, the proof is in the pudding, Americans voted AGAINST the gay marriage stuff, proving the lefts agenda is not in keeping with the average americans thinking, ie: the liberal left is clearly radical in their belief system.

Originally posted by MaskedAvatar
Bush is glad to have people like JoeTex on his side!

Bev Harris and the non-partisan citizen group conducting the reviews over the next 10 days will have interesting findings.

www.blackboxvoting.org...

I listened to her on Coast to Coast last night. Very interesting. The show tonight will be one of a kind.

Current polls show Bush won based on moral and religious issues. So basically the polls show that America is much more worried about gay marriage and abortion than economic and foriegn issues.

Originally posted by subzero360
Unfortunately, I do feel this election is a fraud. I do think that Bush and Kerry had the same Agendas. Kerry was only put in the race to secure that Bush would win.

They are both members of the "Bones and Skulls". Kerry was just put in to secure a win for Bush.

Kerry and Bush are the same #, the U.S. is #ed now.

I agree with you 100%

If I were the Kerry team I would request a recount in FL, and OH simply because from what I understand the exit polls gave him an edge in both states and even more so in OH. Not saying anything wrong happened because exit polls are not an exact science but it does lead you to believe that maybe a recount was in order. I'm glad Kerry has enough class not to pull a Gore. I was like "ugh" when I heard Ohio used the punch card system in 70% of the state like was used in south FL back in 2000.

Now as for the better man... better than what? I'm sure when you compare Hitler, Castro, Hussein, etc one of them was the better man. It was nothing more than a marginal victory for a marginal (at best) leader.

Originally posted by mirrorsparadise
have you heard about Bush's connections to the Christian Coalition in order to win this election? If anyone can find a link PLEASE post it here so that I can further research this.

Yoou can start with Ralph Reed, former executive director with the Christian Coalition, now an advisor to Bush.

Originally posted by smokenmirrors
Integrity, truth and morality won this election for the Republicans.

This is exactly the truth. When you boil it all down, people turned out to defend the traditional morality of the Judeo-Christian heritage that made this nation great. Those who despise religion, in general, and Christianity, in particular, will have a problem seeing this as the reality of the 2004 election.

The majority of the voters were seeking a man knows what he believes and follows principle, instead of the polls. They wanted a man who is flexible enough to adapt, but not so devoid of a personna as to be unrecognizable day to day and ultimately unknowable.

Why anyone would vote for an invertebrate like Kerry is beyond me, but there are over fifty-four million of them residing within our borders. It really does not bode well for the future.

The best source material for this thread for those with the spine to read it is (as a reminder):

www.blackboxvoting.org...

There is plenty of stuff in the mailsack at www.buzzflash.org... too - real life cases of people's experiences in the past couple of days.

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Jesus was very much in favor of separation of church and state, has everyone forgotten the time when Jesus was asked whether Jews had to pay taxes? What was Jesus' reply he simply stated "Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar and give to God what belongs to God" now if you dont see that clearly as separation of church and state then I dont know what is. Caesar represented the government and Jesus clearly showed the crowd that there had to be a line drawn between Church and State.

www.votergate.tv...


www.gregpalast.com...

This election was not won. Kerry conceded...or didn't you pay attention?

Yes, Kerry and GW are both S&B brothers, they are also cousins. Kerry was in the race simply to drop out at the last minute and crown Bush as king for another four years.

The whole thing was a giant, expensive scam on voters. We did not elect our president. There were still 4 states that had not even counted their votes, and a few that had not OFFICIALLY entered their tally. Kerry didn't even try. He could have gotten it with Ohio and ANY other state. Anyone find this suspicious at all? He still had a fighting chance when he dropped out.

BTW, anyone who would like some interesting readin should check out "Fleshing out Skull and Bones" by Chris Milligan. It's not just one guy's opinion, he has more than enough of a bibliography to be impressive.

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Most interestting that Bush wins on the votes of the born-again Christians, when he is in fact a practising Satanist, as indeed are most of the God-channel type leaders, the Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses. Most of theses so-called Christian shmucks right at the top are only good for summoning demons on the death energy of single children and adults or through mass dearhs and genocides
Bush is a little darting-eyed semi-human at the center of this
Trash him and his regime
The time is immanent

Originally posted by mirrorsparadise
have you heard about Bush's connections to the Christian Coalition in order to win this election? If anyone can find a link PLEASE post it here so that I can further research this.

You may find Theocracy Watch helpful. Or scary, depending upon your perspective.

Originally posted by G3NESIS
Wow I thought the people on this forum would be a bit more skeptical but I guess not.


After the concession speech im sure alot of people cant deny this as a bit odd.

Who goes and gives up before a race is over. Especially one for president of the United States. I understand about knowing how to lose but this is a bit extreme they battle so hard and then it just ends.

How many candidates for president just give up 4 feet from the finish line?

Some thing has to be going on behind the scenes.

I think you're right. I said it before in one of my posts. We know theyre both skull & bones- could this have been set up long ago?
Nothing would surprise me anymore.

Originally posted by MaskedAvatar
The best source material for this thread for those with the spine to read it is (as a reminder):

www.blackboxvoting.org...

There is plenty of stuff in the mailsack at www.buzzflash.org... too - real life cases of people's experiences in the past couple of days.

[edit on 3-11-2004 by MaskedAvatar]

their bandwidth is maxed out and has been for hours. Obviously there's something going on of BIG proportions.

Originally posted by mrscasinojones
This election was not won. Kerry conceded...or didn't you pay attention?

Yes, Kerry and GW are both S&B brothers, they are also cousins. Kerry was in the race simply to drop out at the last minute and crown Bush as king for another four years.

The whole thing was a giant, expensive scam on voters. We did not elect our president. There were still 4 states that had not even counted their votes, and a few that had not OFFICIALLY entered their tally. Kerry didn't even try. He could have gotten it with Ohio and ANY other state. Anyone find this suspicious at all? He still had a fighting chance when he dropped out.

The number of votes left in those States didn't equal the number of votes Kerry needed to catch up, and that's if all the remaining votes were for Kerry. So what do you do? Delay for nothing or let everyone get on with their lives.


As for fraud...well with all the reports coming in that thousands of people (democrats) were registered in both Ohio and Florida, (dems) selling crack for votes, more registered (democrat) voters than people in a county....seems the majority of the "fraud" was done by Democrats.



And they still couldn't win....

Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
As for fraud...well with all the reports coming in that thousands of people (democrats) were registered in both Ohio and Florida, (dems) selling crack for votes, more registered (democrat) voters than people in a county....seems the majority of the "fraud" was done by Democrats.

Links would be better than hearsay about reports.

Try this one while you're at it. It's about how you lose your power to vote through inauditable electronic voting machines:

www.blackboxvoting.org...

Well worth reading.

Are We REALLY gona believe THIS ?//? images.usatoday.com...

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