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Either way, you need roads and pavements, who do you think should pay for them?
If someone goes to jail over this, then every single human being that enabled that to happen is personally liable 100% for causing harm to that person,
Originally posted by fourthmeal
reply to post by destination now
I don't wish to put words in your mouth, so when I ask this, please correct me if I'm wrong:
Are you of the belief that the income tax taken by the IRS on the federal or state level pays for roads and bridges?
At the simplest level of anti-Fed crankery is the idea that the Fed "owns" the government. This is due to a misconception of how the Fed operates. Monetary cranks claim that the Fed lends money to the government at interest, thereby stealing "the people's" money and selling us into debt slavery or some similar nefarious scheme to take over the US government. The way this works, however, is not quite the same as your regular commercial bank. The interest on debt held by the Fed actually goes to two places: One, the Fed pays itself out of this interest to cover its own operating costs, and two, the rest of the interest is rebated to the treasury. So, no, the Fed does not own the government or sell us into debt slavery
Originally posted by fourthmeal
In the case of the US, the roads are kept up by paying registration fees, amongst other things. But I just wanted to make sure you weren't of the belief that our Federal system pays for such things.
The Federal Highway Administration invites you to explore this Web site devoted to the Dwight D. Eisenhower System of Interstate and Defense Highways. From the start on June 29, 1956, the Eisenhower Interstate System has been known as the Greatest Public Works Project in History. On this Web site, you will find information about the history of the Eisenhower Interstate System and how it affects each of our lives daily, not just as a means of travel, but as a part of our culture and the American way of life.
This Web site is dedicated to the visionaries and leaders of past generations who created and funded the Interstate System as well as the State and Federal officials, private contractors, and members of national organizations who helped make the United States the most mobile country in the world. As we honor the past, there is no higher calling for those of us in the present generation of transportation officials than to ensure Eisenhower Interstate System continues to serve America for decades to come.
Originally posted by vkey08
reply to post by 7Thunders
I think there's your problem the "Federal Judicial Center" is NOT a Government agency nor is it affiliated with any, it's actually misleading people with the url which is public.resource.org.../fjc.gov/index.html
Originally posted by fourthmeal
reply to post by vkey08
Just more derogatory, inflammatory comments. How is this even allowed to stand? It is pure libel.
The Federal Reserve.. it is NOT owned by the banks, it is NOT owned by foreign nationals and it IS a quasi-governmental agency subject to audit, and oversight. Congress has the last word with the Fed not the banks.
I couldn't write this out as well as the Rational Wiki did, so here's about the Fed controlling the USA:
At the simplest level of anti-Fed crankery is the idea that the Fed "owns" the government. This is due to a misconception of how the Fed operates. Monetary cranks claim that the Fed lends money to the government at interest, thereby stealing "the people's" money and selling us into debt slavery or some similar nefarious scheme to take over the US government. The way this works, however, is not quite the same as your regular commercial bank. The interest on debt held by the Fed actually goes to two places: One, the Fed pays itself out of this interest to cover its own operating costs, and two, the rest of the interest is rebated to the treasury. So, no, the Fed does not own the government or sell us into debt slavery
Originally posted by fourthmeal
reply to post by Crakeur
Its like you didn't even read what he said!
Birth certificates
There are three main beliefs about birth certificates in freeman mythology:
The government uses them to create your strawman and legal person to which all your legal responsibilities, debts and liabilities belong.
As a form of registration, they transfer ownership of an individual to the state. This is what allows the state to seize your children if you don't play by their rules.
They are financial instruments or birth-tracking bonds (a.k.a. live birth bonds) that are sold by the government and then traded on the sea of international commerce, using you as security (an idea taken from the redemption movement).
Freemen claim the government secures the value of its fiat currency using its own citizens' birth certificate "bonds." It is claimed that the value of an individual's "bond" may reach into the millions. This can supposedly be proved by entering the numbers on one's birth certificate into various stock-tracking sites to show the current value of one's "bond" on the market. In reality, of course, any "bonds" found matching these numbers will be real financial instruments which match by complete coincidence.
Notwithstanding this, freemen believe that one can access the money represented by one's own "bond" though various pseudolegal methods and by filing forms with government agencies. There are plenty of conmen, fraudsters and snake-oil salesmen selling methods on how to achieve this to gullible fools. Naturally, none have ever been shown to work.
The value of one's birth certificate "bond" can also supposedly be used to discharge one's debts and financial liabilities through a process known as "acceptance for value" or "A4V", without the freeman having to gain direct access to the funds himself. The UK Treasury has stated that the existence of these bonds, as well as various other freeman financial concepts, are myths.
Originally posted by fourthmeal
Every single informed being reading this is now laughing their ass off.
Originally posted by fourthmeal
The answer is pretty simple, if there are no corporations of limited liability because they have been foreclosed upon lawfully and legally, then what is left?