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posted on Feb, 15 2013 @ 09:11 PM
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Originally posted by CheckPointCharlie
The officer hand writes my name In all caps. Why would he do this?


Much easier to read than writing it in lower case....




posted on Feb, 15 2013 @ 09:13 PM
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stealing is stealing and for anyone to dismiss it as something else says an awful lot about their character.

what agreement ?
the mortgage was paid, remember ?
anything beyond that is extortion, plain and simple.

their 'money' is as 'valuable' as pie in the sky.
it is a trade mechanism, nothing more.

the value is in the real property, not the money.
this is why it is a fraudulent contract from the start.
they have no value to contribute to the 'agreement'.

this is also exactly how 'compromise' evolved to 'concede'.



posted on Feb, 15 2013 @ 09:15 PM
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Originally posted by hellobruce

Originally posted by CheckPointCharlie
The officer hand writes my name In all caps. Why would he do this?


Much easier to read than writing it in lower case....


Haha. You have a million excuses for everything, don't you?


Upper case denotes you are property of someone else.



posted on Feb, 15 2013 @ 09:16 PM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Upper case denotes you are property of someone else.


Your source for that stupid claim is what exactly.

EARTH CITIZEN.... according to you that makes you property of someone....



posted on Feb, 15 2013 @ 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by hellobruce

Why should it mean something? care to show a valid source that states it means something?



What "official documents" is it in all capitals on?


It obviously does mean something. I can list sources that prove it carries meaning. I'm quite certain though that you've surely read them before ( forgive my presumptions). I'm also nearly certain you'll dismiss them as "time expired" or invalid. ( also forgive my presumptions ).
It is on every official document right down to speeding tickets as I mentioned in a previous response.



posted on Feb, 15 2013 @ 09:18 PM
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I'm going on record as rebutting, rebuttling, rebustling and rebusting any and all claims that heather has made towards being the Grand Poobah of the newly foreclosed upon earthbound entities.

because I know she feels that a rebut, rebuttal, etc must be done in the same broad reaching manner as her inane press releases



posted on Feb, 15 2013 @ 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by forgetmenot
I'm just going to add that a right to travel has nothing to do with a car. It would be an amazing display of foresight if it did.
correct, it has to do with the 'method of the day' and these days, that includes an automobile.

if the rest of what you say were correct, then television, computers, radio, internet, satellite communications and a whole slew of others wouldn't be protected under the 1st either



posted on Feb, 15 2013 @ 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by hellobruce

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Upper case denotes you are property of someone else.


Your source for that stupid claim is what exactly.

EARTH CITIZEN.... according to you that makes you property of someone....


Roman law! I don't have time to provide you with any links, but I do remember reading about this in the past. In fact you should read protoplasmic traveler's thread. The dude got banned for speaking too much truth in a persistant manner.



posted on Feb, 15 2013 @ 09:20 PM
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Originally posted by hellobruce


Much easier to read than writing it in lower case....


You don't really believe that do you?

I'm not asking you believe in capitis deminutio mind you, but it cannot be the reason you e given either. We would simply be instructed to write in larger print if that's the case.



posted on Feb, 15 2013 @ 09:20 PM
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Originally posted by CheckPointCharlie
I can list sources that prove it carries meaning.


Please do then....


It is on every official document right down to speeding tickets as I mentioned in a previous response.


Wrong again, do some research, even look at drivers license's that are on the internet, some are, some arent it varies state by state and country by country.



posted on Feb, 15 2013 @ 09:22 PM
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1. Roman Law? I thought we we under common law, no maritime law. now we're under roman law? how ridiculous can these claims get?
2. you clearly have no idea as to why the member you referenced was banned.



posted on Feb, 15 2013 @ 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Roman law!


So what makes a Italian law valid in any other country? Your claims are getting sillier and sillier!


I don't have time to provide you with any links,


That is because there are none....
edit on 15-2-2013 by hellobruce because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 15 2013 @ 09:24 PM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by hellobruce

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Upper case denotes you are property of someone else.


Your source for that stupid claim is what exactly.

EARTH CITIZEN.... according to you that makes you property of someone....


Roman law! I don't have time to provide you with any links, but I do remember reading about this in the past. In fact you should read protoplasmic traveler's thread. The dude got banned for speaking too much truth in a persistant manner.


Here's a funny fact. Romans didn't even know the concept of capitalization. So yeah there's that. Also old roman laws doesn't apply anymore anywhere.
edit on 15/2/2013 by PsykoOps because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 15 2013 @ 09:24 PM
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I haven't chosen a side in this debate yet but I like the idea of people stopping the governments, banks and corporations. If you are right and she is claiming she rules the world, well that just sounds like the NWO to me. If this is the case then you just won me over to your side of this even though I don't agree with all of the reasons that have been given for why this is a scam.



posted on Feb, 15 2013 @ 09:26 PM
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there are parts of TOPPT's outlandish tale that you do believe?



posted on Feb, 15 2013 @ 09:29 PM
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Originally posted by Crakeur
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
 


1. Roman Law? I thought we we under common law, no maritime law. now we're under roman law? how ridiculous can these claims get?
2. you clearly have no idea as to why the member you referenced was banned.


www.abovetopsecret.com...

Fine. Here is his thread which I found quite informative. It is an epic 219 pages long...



posted on Feb, 15 2013 @ 09:30 PM
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Originally posted by hellobruce

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Roman law!


So what makes a Italian law valid in any other country? Your claims are getting sillier and sillier!


I don't have time to provide you with any links,


That is because there are none....
edit on 15-2-2013 by hellobruce because: (no reason given)


Who said anything about italian?



posted on Feb, 15 2013 @ 09:31 PM
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so, because it's long, that means we operate under Roman Law?


so, if I linked you to the serpo thread, which, I believe, is longer, does that mean the tale of the astronaut exchange program is true as well?



posted on Feb, 15 2013 @ 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by hellobruce

Please do then....

One source is already listed on a previous page in this thread. I'll leave it to you to locate and dispute that claim.

Wrong again, do some research, even look at drivers license's that are on the internet, some are, some arent it varies state by state and country by country.


Please link a source. I will do the same for any and all of your requests as well as look into variances from state to state. I'm on a smart phone though and not very tech savvy, so it may take some to copy and paste sources. Forgive me.



posted on Feb, 15 2013 @ 09:39 PM
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there is this take on it ...

The ‘all caps’ spelling does not make the ‘legal identity name” (strawman).
It is where the family name has been converted into a ’surname - primary name’.
The all caps only signifies that the name carries with its use the status of slave pledged as chattel in bankruptcy of the State.

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