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posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 01:44 PM
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Individuation. I would argue it is the only Way possible.


It's certainly reasonable to think that experiencing individuality helps to promote understanding of how every piece is essential to the health of the whole. The more ways you look at it, the more you understand the essential nature.




posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 01:50 PM
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Who does the crooked lens trust to define what is the "correct" way to see?

Who defined crooked in the first place? Where does un-crooked start? Why?



posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
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I'm sure there are plenty "butthurts" on this thread, seeing how long it's gone. Bit are you one of them? I don't know., because I don't know you personally to get a better idea of what your about.


I'm pretty sure LesMisanthrope is fairly pleased with the thread, considering the lengths to which the users have gone to disprove her/him have only served to provide examples of how s/he is right.

Yeah ...that's the whole purpose. That's why it's soooo funny that it's gone so long, providing the fuel for its own fire.

I said early on that there are some cases of Vanity, but that isn't Enlightenment. Maybe a glimpse, or kundalini, or third eye open, or a stage along the way that is mistaken as ENLIGHTENMENT

Hilarious thread!!! Love IT



posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 02:13 PM
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One can only infer that you are able to discern which experiences are worthwhile to each within the variety of individuals you find in front of you.



posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 02:22 PM
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Who does the crooked lens trust to define what is the "correct" way to see?


No one. If it sees clearly, then the rest is interpretation.


Who defined crooked in the first place? Where does un-crooked start? Why?


Why don't you tell us?



posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 02:25 PM
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Hilarious thread!!! Love IT


There's lots more where that came from, dominicus. Stay tuned.



posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 02:25 PM
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Originally posted by AfterInfinity

Who does the crooked lens trust to define what is the "correct" way to see?

No one. If it sees clearly, then the rest is interpretation.

How does it ever know if it sees clearly? What is it comparing against that is "not clear"?


Originally posted by AfterInfinity

Who defined crooked in the first place? Where does un-crooked start? Why?

Why don't you tell us?

How on earth can I answer a question I don't have the answer to? You're the one who seems to know how to correct yourself. So teach me how you know when you have been corrected.



posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 02:32 PM
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How does it ever know if it sees clearly? What is it comparing against that is "not clear"?


How do you ever know?


How on earth can I answer a question I don't have the answer to? You're the one who seems to know how to correct yourself. So teach me how you know when you have been corrected.


Usually, because I'm the one who has done the correcting. And usually because I know the results I want. If the results aren't satisfactory, I correct myself again.



posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
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Hilarious thread!!! Love IT


There's lots more where that came from, dominicus. Stay tuned.


Yes, tell us more about Nietszche. Hilarity abounds.



posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 03:35 PM
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Yes, tell us more about Nietszche. Hilarity abounds.


Why should I when they've already made up their minds about him without reading him? I guess we're all too often swayed by the conclusions of others that we really have no need to reach them on our own accord.



posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 03:42 PM
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Please don't lump me in with the rest of 'em... -.-'''

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posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 06:33 PM
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Do you ever slip into the past?

Have you ever known a time when you are not present? Can you ever say 'it is not now'?

These are not difficult questions - they can be answered with a yes or a no.



posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 06:37 PM
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Have you ever known a time when you are not present? Can you ever say 'it is not now'?


No. Rear view driving is dangerous and counter-productive. It's great to remember where you've been, but it's important to always keep an eye on the future. And that means the past is past. No use bothering with it anymore because you can't do anything about it.

So what's your point?



posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 06:42 PM
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So you are ever present. Past and future are just ideas arising presently.

It is all about finding what point you are at.
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posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 06:45 PM
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So you are ever present. Past and future are just ideas arising presently.


I think that's the case with everyone, unless you know someone who can travel through time...



posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
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So you are ever present. Past and future are just ideas arising presently.


I think that's the case with everyone, unless you know someone who can travel through time...


You are ever present and aware of thoughts arising presently.
Nothing can arise outside of presence.



posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 06:50 PM
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You are ever present and aware of thoughts arising presently.
Nothing can arise outside of presence.


A lot is happening without my ever being present or aware of it...all over the world, every day, without fail, billions of things happen without my knowledge or presence.

So I don't know what you're talking about.



posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 07:00 PM
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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
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You are ever present and aware of thoughts arising presently.
Nothing can arise outside of presence.


A lot is happening without my ever being present or aware of it...all over the world, every day, without fail, billions of things happen without my knowledge or presence.

So I don't know what you're talking about.


What is happening is happening. It is happening presently only. Even if you have an image in mind of another place, it is appearing in mind presently, and if the place exists it too is in the present.



posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 07:01 PM
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What is happening is happening. It is happening presently only. Even if you have an image in mind of another place, it is appearing in mind presently, and if the place exists it too is in the present.


Well, yeah...otherwise, I'd be a little worried.



posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 07:13 PM
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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
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What is happening is happening. It is happening presently only. Even if you have an image in mind of another place, it is appearing in mind presently, and if the place exists it too is in the present.


Well, yeah...otherwise, I'd be a little worried.


The happening is happening and it is being known - always presently.

Ever present awareness is what you are - constant and stable. The scene that is appearing presently is ever changing. The thoughts move and change, sensations move and change, hands move on watches - they are all just part of the ever changing scenery.
Find that which never changes and life will be lighter.
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