Are divorced Christians condemned to hell?

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posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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What "truth"? Every verse you have provided doesn't mention masturbation, nor is the context about masturbation. You're read that into the text.


Sex acts outside of marriage is a sin. The Bible is clear.


First it was masturbation, then it was sex, then it was lusting, then it was fornicating, now it's "sex acts"?

How many straws do you have left?




posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 09:38 PM
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It's time for you to stop justifying sin.



posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 12:38 AM
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Originally posted by truejew
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It's time for you to stop justifying sin.


There is no verse saying masturbation IS a sin.



posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by truejew
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It's time for you to stop justifying sin.


There is no verse saying masturbation IS a sin.


It is a sin and Paul did not see it as a Christian option for the unmarried life.



posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 09:03 PM
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Why didn't Paul say that then? I think we should speak where Scripture speaks and remain silent where it remains silent.



posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 10:05 PM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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Why didn't Paul say that then?


It was understood that when Paul was speaking against lust, he was speaking against everything connected to lust.


Originally posted by NOTurTypical

I think we should speak where Scripture speaks and remain silent where it remains silent.


Except for when it comes to the trinity, rejecting Acts 2:38, and holiness where you speak when Scripture is silent and remain silent when Scripture speaks. It appears to me that when you speak or remain silent depends on your group's teachings, not the Bible.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 12:29 AM
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Yet again, Ive previously agreed several times that lust is a sin. I've also said several times that a man or woman can masturbate without thinking about another person. Moot point.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 06:27 AM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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Yet again, Ive previously agreed several times that lust is a sin. I've also said several times that a man or woman can masturbate without thinking about another person. Moot point.


Do you have proof?



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 06:54 AM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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What "truth"? Every verse you have provided doesn't mention masturbation, nor is the context about masturbation. You're read that into the text.


Sex acts outside of marriage is a sin. The Bible is clear.


First it was masturbation, then it was sex, then it was lusting, then it was fornicating, now it's "sex acts"?

How many straws do you have left?


They say to us:

"Your bible says thou shall not kill, you hyprocrites!"

And the sons of the Father ask " Have you ever walked in nature?"
"If so, you have surely murdered an ant"
Therefore, everyone should be encased in a bubble forevermore, to make atheists feel important!



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 11:57 AM
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Ants are not human.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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Yet again, Ive previously agreed several times that lust is a sin. I've also said several times that a man or woman can masturbate without thinking about another person. Moot point.


Do you have proof?


Ask yourself, could you masterbate without thinking of a woman? Or would that be impossible to do?



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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Yet again, Ive previously agreed several times that lust is a sin. I've also said several times that a man or woman can masturbate without thinking about another person. Moot point.


Do you have proof?


Ask yourself, could you masterbate without thinking of a woman? Or would that be impossible to do?


It is impossible for someone to do because it is a sex act.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 08:08 PM
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To answer the question, yes, it's possible to masterbate without thinking of a woman.



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 03:09 AM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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To answer the question, yes, it's possible to masterbate without thinking of a woman.


Thinking about an animal in that way is also a sin.



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 07:36 AM
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Did I say that?

What an absurd non sequitur.



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 09:19 AM
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What else could a person be thinking of during a sex act? If not a human or an animal, what? Einstein's theory of relativity?



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 09:43 AM
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Well, during an act of sex most people are thinking of the other person. Sex involves two individuals. I wasn't asking you about sex, I asked if it were possible for a person to masterbate without thinking about a woman. Masturbation predominantly involves just the individual themselves.

I know it's early, but try to focus a little bit.



Noun 1. sex act -

the act of sexual procreation between a man and a woman; the man's penis is inserted into the woman's vagina and excited until orgasm and ejaculation occur


"sex act" - free online dictionary
edit on 19-2-2013 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 09:53 AM
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for what its worth
- cause i see that most dont even read properly your question: but jump with their conclusions -

like they ALL do
as soon christian religion poses a question -

no, one isnt condamned.
the point here is ' establishing a correct energy field ' .

all of ATS suspects at least, that Creation follows energy field templates
and
certain behaviour causes a disrupt in that energy field -
greed, selfishness, lived homosexuality, proudness, whatever.

in this case
not the ' divorce ' is the problem
but the ' connecting bad energies to a NEW ' partner ' .

hope that makes sense.



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 11:09 AM
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Someone or something must take the place of the other person in the person's mind.



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 03:14 PM
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That's false. A person can masterbate just for the simple reason of getting off without thinking about anything other than getting off. So yet again your statement is false.





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