The New Age movement is quite literally confused and mad!, page 12


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reply posted on 29-1-2013 @ 04:24 AM by Mkoll
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That depends on whether or not you think things happen when you are not perceiving them


reply posted on 29-1-2013 @ 04:38 AM by 1nf1del
Originally posted by Mkoll
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post by 1nf1del



That depends on whether or not you think things happen when you are not perceiving them


According to recent scientific findings they are not happening when not observed!



reply posted on 29-1-2013 @ 04:54 AM by Mkoll
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Could you link me? I am interested. I really want to know how they observed things that are unobserved without observing them

But yeah the fact that observing things like photons and decaying particles will change what occurs leads me to believe that consciousness and perception is a central part of the whole thing.


reply posted on 29-1-2013 @ 05:08 AM by 1nf1del
Originally posted by Mkoll
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post by 1nf1del



Could you link me? I am interested. I really want to know how they observed things that are unobserved without observing them

But yeah the fact that observing things like photons and decaying particles will change what occurs leads me to believe that consciousness and perception is a central part of the whole thing.


Seriously? You've never heard of the double slit experiment?

www.youtube.com...


reply posted on 29-1-2013 @ 05:52 AM by Mkoll
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Oh, the double slit experiment I know about. I thought that by recent you meant in the past couple of years.
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reply posted on 29-1-2013 @ 05:59 AM by 1nf1del
Originally posted by Mkoll
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post by 1nf1del



Oh, the double slit experiment I know about. I thought that by recent you meant in the past couple of years.
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Then I can only conclude that you were trolling with this statement!

" I really want to know how they observed things that are unobserved without observing them"

If you already knew why did you ask? Then try to cover your ass with "I thought that by recent you meant in the past couple of years."? I'll have a discussion with you but don't try to imply that I'm stupid!


reply posted on 29-1-2013 @ 06:39 AM by Mkoll
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I apologize, I was not trying to troll anyone. My inconsistency is a result of my initial misunderstanding. I didn't think of the double slit experiment as showing that things do not happen unless they observed, but rather that observation can change the outcome. This is why I thought you were referring to something else. I also thought the double slit experiment has been around some time so I didn't really consider it recent. I apologize for the confusion, but please agree that "According to recent scientific findings they are not happening when not observed!" is fairly vague.
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reply posted on 29-1-2013 @ 06:44 AM by 1nf1del
Originally posted by Mkoll
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post by 1nf1del



I apologize, I was not trying to troll anyone. My inconsistency is a result of my initial misunderstanding. I didn't think of the double slit experiment as showing that things do not happen unless they observed, but rather that observation can change the outcome. This is why I thought you were referring to something else. I also thought the double slit experiment has been around some time so I didn't really consider it recent. I apologize for the confusion, but please agree that "According to recent scientific findings they are not happening when not observed!" is fairly vague.
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I guess I kind of assumed you would know what I was talking about when I made that statement considering the question you asked, I thought that's what you were implying, it was partly my assumption!


reply posted on 29-1-2013 @ 01:40 PM by Ewok_Boba
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So let me get this straight, you "read" and "watched youtube videos" on the compendium of information pertaining to age old schools of mystical thought, and when 2012 didn't happen, you felt you were justified in coming here and ridiculing spiritual philosophies?

It is clear from reading the OP, that you NEVER took serious the path to begin with, nor do you hold any serious knowledge on the subject. Your own previous "suspicions" of Satanism are reflective of that. Regardless of what you claim you learned, you use 2012 as the quintessential event that defined the movement, which is not even remotely correct. Like most of humanity, most "new agers" don't take the philosophies seriously, and I bet nor did you.

Every single one of your, and everyone else's insults to the movement and those serious in their pursuits here is completely unsubstantiated. You are using an event which was only recently revealed by a few modern day individuals, as ammunition to target dozens of mystical schools of thought present across the world for millenia. In short, your whole thread is ridiculous. As are the elementary opinions of all the trolls who agree with you for those very reasons.
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reply posted on 29-1-2013 @ 01:45 PM by hawkiye
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You usually have to dig up a lot of dirt and expend a lot of energy to find that vein of gold many a miner looking for a quick get rich method gave up and others came and dug in the same place and found the gold they missed... Just saying...

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reply posted on 29-1-2013 @ 02:13 PM by 1nf1del
Originally posted by Ewok_Boba
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post by AthlonSavage



So let me get this straight, you "read" and "watched youtube videos" on the compendium of information pertaining to age old schools of mystical thought, and when 2012 didn't happen, you felt you were justified in coming here and ridiculing spiritual philosophies?

It is clear from reading the OP, that you NEVER took serious the path to begin with, nor do you hold any serious knowledge on the subject. Your own previous "suspicions" of Satanism are reflective of that. Regardless of what you claim you learned, you use 2012 as the quintessential event that defined the movement, which is not even remotely correct. Like most of humanity, most "new agers" don't take the philosophies seriously, and I bet nor did you.

Every single one of your, and everyone else's insults to the movement and those serious in their pursuits here is completely unsubstantiated. You are using an event which was only recently revealed by a few modern day individuals, as ammunition to target dozens of mystical schools of thought present across the world for millenia. In short, your whole thread is ridiculous. As are the elementary opinions of all the trolls who agree with you for those very reasons.
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Couldn't have said it better!


reply posted on 29-1-2013 @ 02:44 PM by AfterInfinity
reply to post by Itisnowagain



I don't think any of those words mean when you think they mean.


reply posted on 29-1-2013 @ 02:56 PM by starshift
reply to post by Ewok_Boba



He bought a road map at the convenience store and thought he knew the territory. Why take the road trip when you only have to look at the map? The map cost a little money and now he feels ripped off because there was actual effort needed to gain the experience.
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