posted on Jan, 11 2013 @ 04:51 AM
"The second you start advocating any use of force to strip Americans from their unalienable right to bear arms (ban of any kind), you lose all moral
standing. Using guns and violent use of force. If you advocate voluntary gun turn-ins through ideas then there is nothing wrong with it at all."
Well, then we do agree. I've nothing against anyone doing anything voluntarily in this matter.
To the poster above says "Cars are apart of our everyday lives" or something to that extent...
WHOSE every day lives? Ours? You mean, the ones who built a society around cars?
You know, people can live just fine without cars, and that argument can be made through and through.
The economy can't survive without them, but people can. So... you should rephrase that.
I have always had a problem with cars. What a terrible tool for people to have founded their society upon.
I mean, seriously? Do you all not think about that more? Cars aren't a part of nature that we have to accept,
it's something our fathers and fathers fathers began putting into play that we now blindly accept as somehow natural and necessary. It's only
necessary for this crumbling society, not for life itself.
This thread isn't about cars, so I'll stop.
But, anyway. I'll say real quick... that. Guns ARE necessary in our every day lives, so is militia.
And, I do believe we are and have already been deprived of militia. Afterall, do you know of any "militias"?
The NRA, is that a militia? Is that a silly question?
to repeat, Guns ARE a necessary part in our every day lives, so is militia. We just don't USE THEM properly, nor
do we use our right (or are we probably allowed) our right to militia properly.
It's very important for the safety and security (and feeling of security) of every individual that they know they are protected from a possible
corrupt government that wants to kill them. That IS apart of our every day lives, or rather should be.
But we aren't allowed it, really. You don't KNOW that it's apart of a healthy lifestyle and feeling good, because you aren't allotted it. I
don't doubt whatsoever that you absolutely, like me, fear our government. It should NOT be that way.
I admit, I fear its atrocious power.
We should have the comfort of being able to organize equal force to be able to combat it.
Our government is the bully in the classroom, and your the nerdy kid.
Safety with guns makes us the nerdy kid with a big group of other nerdy kids that can tackle the bully or put up a fight if needed. Right now
we're just a bunch of lone nerdy kids who don't know eachothers whereabouts and we're all displaced from eachother and lost on the playground
therefore are all subject and vulnerable to beatings from the
bully one at a time.
That's what happens when the 2nd ammendment is slowly abolished.
"because cars are an essential part of our lives.
much like air transport... electricity....and water! they can very easily cause death, but when managed and handled properly they work. Besides, its
acceptable losses for cars and transport, because its common and expected. "
"they can very easily cause death, but when managed and handled properly they work." This goes 100% exactly to the T the same for Guns. Guns can
very easily cause death, but when managed and handled properly they DO work for what they are intended for.
And guess what, a CAR *IS* a gun. A car could be used to kill 50 people on a sidewalk at one point.
Honestly I don't know why that doesn't happen more...
"Besides, its acceptable losses for cars and transport, because its common and expected"
It's not acceptable by me! Not one car death has been acceptable by me. By the masses, yes, you're right.
But, it will not ever be acceptable by me. and, as silly as it may sound to you, mass car ownership is not ok by me.
Nor do I think it was even necessary.
You haven't stopped to think... that, unearthing Guns from everyone is ALMOST damn similar from trying to unearth Cars from everyone. Both are
equally as ridiculous ideas.
Guns are ingrained into the country MUCH longer than Cars have been. The Gov't going into people's homes and confiscating peoples guns (Lord have
mercy if this ever happens) is EQUALLY as ridiculous as the Gov't going into
people's homes and confiscating their vehicles. How childish are any of you to think that's acceptable?
The united states is not utopia, it's not the promised land (even if you've heard differently), it's just the US.
We have guns.
We drive cars that are too fast.
We drink whisky and commit fornication and glorify it.
We hail country music as gospel.
We have tons of casinos.
We have gangs and urban poverty out the wazoo...
This ISNT utopia, it's not ever going to be, so why are you trying to fine tune everything until it is?