Originally posted by network dude

Just out of curiosity, how many of those guns do you think one person could shoot at any one time? How many could one person carry around?

I always wondered that about those who cry "OMG Too many gunz!!!!!"

Like once you turn psycho arms begin sprouting from your torso like some Hindu god and can wield 12 guns.

Originally posted by ted4d

I bet you that countries that don't have guns have less suicides, regardless of the fact that you could still use something else. Just a guess though. Mebbe I'll should Google it...

Like Japan?

Worlds toughest gun laws and worlds highest suicide rate.

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere

Originally posted by ted4d

I bet you that countries that don't have guns have less suicides, regardless of the fact that you could still use something else. Just a guess though. Mebbe I'll should Google it...

Like Japan?

Worlds toughest gun laws and worlds highest suicide rate.

hum, ok, sorry I stand corrected. but I can't help but think that suicide rates are higher in countries with legal guns -

re-Correction - after some more wiki time =
Some research shows an association between household firearm ownership and gun suicide rates. For example, it was found that individuals in a firearm owning home are close to five times more likely to commit suicide than those individuals who do not own firearms.

I'm happy to research more to properly confirm, but I'm just saying, must be fact that more suicides happen where guns are easy to come by?

Here is a test question,
Which one would you fear more? Which one could kill more people?
( the sniper is using a bolt action rifle. Not on the ban list.)








So you have a teenager who has never served but has lots of cool guns, or a trained killer.

The type of gun is irrelevant. The will of the shooter is key. Find out why anyone would want to kill innocent people, and you can fix the REAL problem. Trying to limit what kind of guns we can buy is what a drooling idiot might do. Don't be that guy.

OK since I am curious about conspiricy theories. I think it is remarkable that since the Obama administration is trying to outlaw guns there has been an awful lot of shooting going on. I think the government is involved to scare the population into banning guns.

They are not addessing the pattern that 90% of the shooters were bullied societially weak outcasts.

The Schools do not address bullying, they sweep it under the rug. This is the germinating seed and not only it is not addressed it is watered.

The schools should be teaching the theory of firearm safety in the first grade. The rule "never point a gun at a person should be taught in preschool/kindergarden.

Violent videogames should be reevaluated. What we need to address is what are the adults doing to the youth that makes them want to lash out and kill in games first and in reallife later.

Gun Control is a knee jerk, reactive not proactive, non working, feel good solution doomed to fail for all the reasons beaten to death on the numerous other threads.

Originally posted by VforVendettea
They are not addessing the pattern that 90% of the shooters were bullied societially weak outcasts.

The Schools do not address bullying, they sweep it under the rug. This is the germinating seed and not only it is not addressed it is watered.

The schools should be teaching the theory of firearm safety in the first grade. The rule "never point a gun at a person should be taught in preschool/kindergarden.

Violent videogames should be reevaluated. What we need to address is what are the adults doing to the youth that makes them want to lash out and kill in games first and in reallife later.

Gun Control is a knee jerk, reactive not proactive, non working, feel good solution doomed to fail for all the reasons beaten to death on the numerous other threads.

edit on 11-1-2013 by VforVendettea because: (no reason given)

Brilliant summary. Don't forget there is the prescription drug element also, but yes "bullied societially weak outcasts" is a great point - not sure societially is a real word tho :-) but yes, that's it.

On balance though, surely most people would say you can't ask the school to do society/parents job for them?

In our school we were taught algebra. Useless for 99.999% of the population. How much better would it be to maybe spend a little school lesson time on the more complex items of relationships, bullying, etc. Like a social lessons class or similar. That's surely got to be on the right track? Drop 30 minutes of RE or cookery or woodwork or metalwork or rugby (hated them all!) and have something more useful?

If a gang of alcoholics can get together every week and talk about life, students can too eh? might be progress but I think also a tad optimistic. Def better than learning how to make apple crumble and I can't remember anyway so it wasn't worth the lesson. If I was taught how to deal better with some life important things then that would have stuck with me more I am sure.

Ridiculous. Then again, shootings happen EVERYDAY in California.


Can't wait for the conspiracy threads about this one.

Originally posted by ted4d

Brilliant summary. Don't forget there is the prescription drug element also, but yes "bullied societially weak outcasts" is a great point - not sure societially is a real word tho :-) but yes, that's it.

Mentined the overprescribed drugs and the mental health stigma in the Sandy hook shooting- Did not want to sound like a broken record.