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Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by tothetenthpower
Actually it has nothing to do, those people that are anti union think that this a good thing for teaches, it means that now lax laws on employment can now target at lowering cost and salaries of teachers in the state without repercussions.
Lower salaries next and worst working environment due to budget cut it has nothing to do with quality of education and for the good of the children, as usual the tax payer are the losers not the unions and neither the misinformed anti union crowd.
Way to go, one more for the government and the welfare state.
Originally posted by chiefsmom
Yeah, I've been watching this on the local news every night.
I'm very surprised this past, with the unions screaming on the t.v. all the time, but I'm happy it did.
We sure need something to happen for the good in this state.
Originally posted by jimmiec
There was a time when Unions were very much needed. That time has passed and the sad truth is that Unions have turned into pretty much the thing they were created to protect workers from. Every state now has a labor board and they work quite well most times. Unions are killing America. Especially Public Unions
This proposal would:
Grant public and private employees the constitutional right to organize and bargain collectively through labor unions.
Invalidate existing or future state or local laws that limit the ability to join unions and bargain collectively, and to negotiate and enforce collective bargaining agreements, including employees’ financial support of their labor unions. Laws may be enacted to prohibit public employees from striking.
Override state laws that regulate hours and conditions of employment to the extent that those laws conflict with collective bargaining agreements.
Define “employer” as a person or entity employing one or more employees.
Originally posted by jimmyx
Originally posted by chiefsmom
Yeah, I've been watching this on the local news every night.
I'm very surprised this past, with the unions screaming on the t.v. all the time, but I'm happy it did.
We sure need something to happen for the good in this state.
yeah,... get rid of those unions...don't want anyone protecting workers....those teachers are making entirely too much money, and the health benefits?...are you kidding me?....screw them, they can pay out of their own pocket the 500 to 600 dollars a month. that'll teach em'...pun intended
On a final note... WHY DIDN'T THE PEOPLE GET TO VOTE FOR THIS LAW....
Originally posted by DontTreadOnMe
reply to post by trinityalways
On a final note... WHY DIDN'T THE PEOPLE GET TO VOTE FOR THIS LAW....
They did.
In November...just a few weeks ago...the unions backed a proposal to get a pro-union amendment to the state Constitution...it lost...the citizens have spoken.
Oh beep... you are taking about the proposal 2 when half the ppl forgot to flip over their voter cards and didn't even read the jargon on the ballot due to the BLANK AND BLANK PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION... AND Gov. Rick Snyder, State Attorney General Bill Schuette and the Michigan Chamber of Commerce were among those who opposed the union-backed measure. Ya now he passes is what a few weeks later... GET REAL PEOPLE...
58 percent of voters opposing the measure and only 42 percent supporting it.
Get the story right. Michigan voters support collective bargaining, and simply did not want to add collective bargaining to the state constitution. Many see it as a civil liberty issues ............ gezzzz I #ing moving to Texasedit on 11-12-2012 by trinityalways because: FORGOT MORE BEEPS ... LMAO
Originally posted by DarthMuerte
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Congratulations to Michigan. They have both the largest union membership and the worst unemployment numbers in the country. Hopefully, this will bring some employers back to the state.
The Republican-controlled Michigan House has passed one of two contentious "right-to-work" bills, as union protesters flooded the capital and hundreds of teachers called out of work to participate in the demonstrations. The measure approved Tuesday morning deals with public-sector workers. Another bill focusing on the private sector was approved last week, when the Senate OK'd both bills. When final versions have cleared the House, they'll go to Republican Gov. Rick Snyder for his expected signature as early as Wednesday. Coinciding with the votes were massive and noisy protests both inside and outside the Capitol from pro-union demonstrators. Thousands descended upon downtown Lansing to rally against the legislation that prohibits requiring nonunion employees to financially support unions at their workplace. The move would make Michigan the 24th "right-to-work" state and strike a blow to organized labor in the heart of the U.S. auto industry. Earlier in the day, two state school districts closed after hundreds of teachers called out.
Regarding the teachers calling out; fire them all. Every union teacher that called out and robbed the children they are supposed to be educating needs to be fired on the spot. There are many unemployed teachers all over the country who would be happy to take their jobs. There are even more unemployed college graduates that would gladly fill any remaining open positions. Fire them all and hire only non-unio teachers from that point forward. The children will thank you for getting those leeches out of the system and replacing them with people who actually want to teach.edit on Tue Dec 11 2012 by DontTreadOnMe because: added MI to title