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reply posted on 29-12-2012 @ 11:02 PM by ldyserenity
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by ldyserenity
I don't think it's right to force anyone to join any union. But the right to work Bullspit is also garbage. The employer should not have the right to "Close off" Any employee because they're union (this is done here in Florida at wal mart) No Union people will be hired at a wal mart in florida and no union is allowed to try and get wal mart workers to join a union, also if you decide You think you want to join a union, in florida, wal mart will then fire you (and they're the only ones that actually give you breaks down here) So either way to the extreme is very bad. I don't know how it will play out at MI I guess only time will tell. As it says now the way it reads looks innocent enough, but I have learned a lot of double talk in these bills or you know, the fine print over these many years, we shall see.


It seems to me that what you are asking for in freedom of choice that only goes one way. Why should an employee have the freedom to be part of a union but an employer not have the right to not employ a union worker? IMHO, the employee and the employer both have rights and if they cannot come to a mutually beneficial agreement, either side should be free to terminate the relationship.


Nobody should be blocked from getting a job...hence why there are discrimination laws. PERIOD.

Ok, is that more clear?

Nobody should be kept from a job because they smoke tobacco (A LEGAL product) Or for any reason that does not directly affect performance.

It's stupid to think anybody has the right to do that.


reply posted on 29-12-2012 @ 11:15 PM by TKDRL
reply to post by ldyserenity


Yet they do just that. I have seen a lot of jobs have on their "requirements" list to be a nonsmoker. I suppose it is because they do not want to have to work in smoke breaks. Don't even get me started on the drug test and background check BS.....


reply posted on 29-12-2012 @ 11:22 PM by ldyserenity
Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by ldyserenity


Yet they do just that. I have seen a lot of jobs have on their "requirements" list to be a nonsmoker. I suppose it is because they do not want to have to work in smoke breaks. Don't even get me started on the drug test and background check BS.....


This is exactly why we need some unions, and the ability to belong to one if we so choose. I have NO DOUBT in my mind that this law will end up being one sided...on the side of the big corporation over the humanitarian "freedom of choice" BS they're trying to shove down their throats in MI. I am sure the fine print says a lot they hope will not come to the surface until it's as deplorable to work there as it is in a few states mentioned here like Louisiana, Alabama, Florida, And Whatever other ones have been previously discussed how horrible the working class are being fleeced and spat on in "right to work" or even "at will" crap states. I think the one thing that needs to be done is everyone refuse to work those places anymore, just stop working and completely crash their Dumb A$$ system, then they'll maybe wake up and start realizing we refuse to work for chicken scratch. People need to just tell them all to piss off and do the work themselves, they'd change their damn tune quick then!


reply posted on 5-1-2013 @ 02:18 AM by begoodbees
Originally posted by YouSir
reply to post by macman
Ummm.....I actually think that unions have served their purpose. I'm no longer in one and wouldn't join if I was paid to. I have too much pride in self and ability to ever go that route again. I especially think that public sector unions should be shut out, down and sideways. There are so many more ethical people out there in the labor force that would fill those positions in a heartbeat. If we protect whistleblowers and have real teeth in employee protections from an enforcement standpoint then there is no need for a union. All of that being said, I think that private unions should be outlawed as well, and those bums thrown to the wolves like everyone else. The Dems love to rag on about leveling the playing field, well lets start there......

YouSir



your thoughts and opinions are silly and not valid therefore I wish I could reach through my computer and slap you.


reply posted on 5-1-2013 @ 02:21 AM by begoodbees
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How dare you have thoughts and opinions anyway right? I think you catch my drift. Unions and teachers right?
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