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. Why are beliefs attacked . Surely everyone can believe as they wish . Why do you say that people kill in the name of Gods yet we see they still kill even without the name of God . They kill in the name of a salary , or the name of FUN or the name of the State as the collective WHOLE to be worshipped ..
Originally posted by WhoDat09
I only read your first post on this thread, so excuse me if I repeat anything that has already been discussed. I don't fault you for believing in a God, I don't fault you for believing there is a God, I grew up in a Catholic home, I went to a Catholic school till I went into the 10th grade, I know the teachings of God, they were drilled into my brain when I was young.
I do not any longer believe that God or the God that I knew and loved exists, I think religion as a whole is inherently evil, but I can't explain why!! Maybe I do know why ........it could be because every time a Muslim kills himself/herself he/she does it in the name of Allah, maybe it is because Jews often "defend" themselves in the name of YHWH or Elohim. or maybe it is because Christians often (in the past) murdered people in the name of God. I just think that religion as a whole is an evil thing that has been placed upon us, I don't think our ancestors meant to do this to us, but it has been an unfortunate result.
Basically what I believe is organized religion is bad for us as a people, everyone deserves to live a good life whether you believe in God, or Allah or Elohim! There should be no "right" religion and no "wrong" religion. If God exits then he/she should be able to look past these different names we have for him/her. If there is a God, I believe he is the only "God", and how could a God any kind of God sit back and watch the atrocities happening to the people on earth??
3) Ah the Stalin, Pol Pot gambit I will raise you the following
Were Stalin, Hitler and Pol Pot atheists?
Theists hold up Communism and Nazism, along with the regime of the Cambodian tyrant Pol Pot, as evidence of murderous "atheist" tyrannies that have caused the deaths of tens of millions. While it may be true that Communism portrayed itself as "godless," it did not wage war in the name of atheism, nor were its founders and leaders raised as atheists. They were, in fact, preponderantly Jewish and Christian. Communist Manifesto writer Karl Marx was born a Jew, the grandson of two rabbis, and was converted to Christianity at age 6. Leon Trotsky, whose real name was Lev Bronstein, was born and raised a Jew but later declared himself "an internationalist."
Josef Stalin's "very religious" mother named him after St. Joseph, and wanted him to become a priest. Stalin himself supposedly claimed that his father had been a priest, and he was purportedly "damaged by violence" while being "raised in a poor priest-ridden household." As a youth, Stalin spent five years in a Greek Orthodox seminary, after which he purportedly renounced his religion. In his later years, Stalin apparently embraced Christianity once more. As Stalin biographer Edvard Radinsky remarks, "During his mysterious retreat [of June 1941] the ex-seminarist had decided to involve the aid of the God he had rejected." Radinsky likewise chronicles a number of religious comrades in Stalin's immediate circle. It is evident that, whether for good or bad, religion played a significant role in Stalin's life.
Adolf Hitler was raised a Catholic, and in a speech in 1922 he remarked, "My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Saviour as a fighter..." In his autobiography Mein Kampf (1.2), Hitler stated:
Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.
Throughout his life, Hitler invoked God and "the Lord," demonstrating his religious, not atheistic, nature. Pol Pot was raised a Buddhist and Catholic. In this regard, Dr. Ian Harris, a Reader in Religious Studies at the University College of St. Martin, relates: "In one of his early writings Pol Pot wrote approvingly that the 'democratic regime will bring back the Buddhist moralism because our great leader Buddha was the first to have taught [democracy].'" Although in comparison to the Abrahamic religions its history is far less violent, Buddhism has not been entirely devoid of atrocity in its spread and practice.
ATS has been infiltrated by the Christians
Originally posted by trysts
reply to post by AQuestion
I don't understand why you keep equating the truth of the matter of gods not existing as a form of brainwashing? It's the truth. There are no pictures of gods, nor is there any eyewitness testimony(unlike UFOs). It's just all made up, created in the imagination.
Originally posted by Wongbeedman
reply to post by lambs to lions
If you think there's some kind of atheist "agenda" then you're mistaken.
And its interesting to see you post a Hitchens video after your fellow Christians disgustingly celebrated his death on twitter. I don't mean to paint all of you with the same brush, you've done that to yourself already.
what other 2000 year old ideas still sound cool?