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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by Trustfund
Actually, I do believe white people are more commonly serial killers. There are of course exceptions, but serial killers tend to be white. Please don't try to bring the race card to the thread. It doesn't work as no part of this case was race related.
Originally posted by Merinda
He isnt a cold blooded murdered, like somebody whom kills for fun. But after alerting the autorities he did not back down when he was told to do so. Maybe he confronted Martin when it was no buisness of his own and alceration ensued that could have ended either way. What if Martin would have been smart enough to carry a gun and the man whom confronted him was shot dead instead?
I understand intervening when somebody is climbing through a window, but he was on the street, he was not a cop he should have not confronted him. He might not be racist or anything like that, but his actions led to the dead of a wannabe poser gangster with no criminal record to speak of.edit on 4-12-2012 by Merinda because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
Originally posted by Trustfund
reply to post by GogoVicMorrow
I'm not brainwashed by any media, I don't even watch the MSM.
Trayvon was 17 years old, he was a kid and still in high school. I could careless what he looked like, age is all that matters.
Everyone with common sense knows that Trayvon came after Zimmerman, and died near his front door despite having plenty of time to make it home.
lol, common sense? Really? Were you there? Talk about being brainwashed.
And I would come after Zimmerman after he got out his car and approached me too. That is creepy as hell... Not really trying to get robbed or Jeffery Dahmered.
Zimmerman tried to play batman and failed, he murdered a completely innocent un-armed kid because he couldn't mind his own business.
That "completely innocent kid" attacked Mr, Zimmerman, and was pounding his head in to the ground. The same kid was suspended three times, for drug items, burglary tools, defacing school property. He was probably casing houses, just like Mr. Zimmerman reported. I know my teen, if coming back from the store in the rain, would not be hanging around, acting all suspicious. That kid also was GONE, clear in the 911 call, and had to have come back to attack. Self defense isn't murder, and youth isn't a valid excuse for attacking someone on the street. The very fact that his dad assumed he was not home because he was in trouble (the next DAY, not that night) speaks volumes. If MY kid didn't come back from the store the same night, I would be out looking then.
Originally posted by Southern Guardian
Originally posted by Domo1
For all the people that are going to descend on this thread and say Zimmerman acted as the aggressor, following someone is not illegal,
How do you know he was merely following Trayvon? This is what Zimmerman claims.
Neither of those things warrants physical assault,
Threats warrant physical assault in my books. What's more, there's no evidence to point to whether Trayvon actually started the physical assault, only Zimmerman's claim that Trayvon did.
Zimmerman made some poor choices,
Yes he did, he decided to play police officer that night and he ended up with his face all over national television. He should have stayed put in his truck, but he chose to pursue this matter with an armed gun at the ready. He knew exactly what he was getting himself into and he has himself to blame.
I know my teen, if coming back from the store in the rain, would not be hanging around, acting all suspicious.
Originally posted by CaptChaos
Any of you white people, try walking around at night in Harlem or Overtown or any black neighborhoods late at night, hoody or not.
Let me know how long you live.
Dats raciss!
Originally posted by Trustfund
reply to post by WP4YT
You have no clue who attacked who first.
Originally posted by WP4YT
To all you saying you would attack someone for following you, i hope you have some psycho mistake you for doing the same some day. Four years ago i was driving with my family pulling out of a wall mart parking lot into an intersection. There was a car full of undesirables in the lane next to ours while we waited for the light to turn. While reaching to grab my iced tea i hit the horn by mistake. They began yelling at me for "beepin" at them, and when i tried to explain that i wouldn't beep at a car next to me, they pulled a gun and said "cracka you anna be in deep s...t" i sped off to protect my family. They followed us but gave up pursuit. Cops useless as always but that's another story. The point I'm trying to make is, there's a lot of paranoid people out there. Lot of them might think they are being followed when they are not... Or might think you're "beepin" at them....edit on 4-12-2012 by WP4YT because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by kerazeesicko
reply to post by WP4YT
Yeah it's not about race for you..that's why you chose to mention tribes in Africa..
What tribe was Trayvon from?
Did you also know that it is white people who are more prone to molest children?
inmates who were convicted of committing violent acts against children were more like to have been white, a percentage of nearly 70%, than any other race.
Characteristics of Offenders Who Violate and Assault Children
So tell me..what does this have to do with anything..NOTHING..same as your tribe comment.
Originally posted by Starchildren
He should not have followed him. Period. He assumed the role of a police officer. Zimmerman was looking for trouble. He was big man with his big gun and he wanted to shoot someone, anyone to puff himself up. If Zimmerman fears for his life, he shouldn't be out roaming the street with a gun, looking for trouble.
I don't know what the laws are in other parts of the country, but up here, you cannot just follow or pursue someone with intent to subdue them or harass them. It's considered harassment. My ex knows about that, since he went to jail for it.
Originally posted by NavyDoc[/i
When is was 17, I was an infantryman in the Marines and carried a M16A2 for Uncle Sam. A 17 year old can kill someone just as easy as an 18 year old. The age is not relevant--size and behavior are.
Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by LadyGreenEyes
I know my teen, if coming back from the store in the rain, would not be hanging around, acting all suspicious.
If it was raining, I'd be offering to drive my kid to the store. I wonder if his parents did? Or would he rather go out in the rain because it provides good cover to case out places for burglary at a later time...
Originally posted by yuppa
reply to post by eNumbra
If the fool was old enough to strike the adult he was old enough to know the risk and consequences. I am so tired of people not taking personal responsibility and always finding a excuse. POint is The boy is dead and according to evidence it was self defense. ANd has everyone forgot the break in kit he was holding onto for someone?
"duuuh, at 17 you can be a killer, i was, herp a derp
"Buuuuurp!, trayvons Facebook/Twitter/Myspace show..."
"trayvon was a thug, look he broke thad guys noz"
"Black..." "White..."
Originally posted by PsykoOps
If someone stalks me and pulls a gun on me I'd try to disarm them too. Bloody nose wouldn't be surprise from that.
Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
Originally posted by Southern Guardian
Originally posted by Domo1
For all the people that are going to descend on this thread and say Zimmerman acted as the aggressor, following someone is not illegal,
How do you know he was merely following Trayvon? This is what Zimmerman claims.
Neither of those things warrants physical assault,
Threats warrant physical assault in my books. What's more, there's no evidence to point to whether Trayvon actually started the physical assault, only Zimmerman's claim that Trayvon did.
Zimmerman made some poor choices,
Yes he did, he decided to play police officer that night and he ended up with his face all over national television. He should have stayed put in his truck, but he chose to pursue this matter with an armed gun at the ready. He knew exactly what he was getting himself into and he has himself to blame.
Balderdash! There is plenty of evidence showing that Martin was the aggressor, including at least one eyewitness. Plus, if you say a simple threat (imagined in this case) warrants an assault, then attacking someone and bashing their head on the ground surely calls for a gunshot. Plus, Mr. Zimmerman lived in that neighborhood. he had every right to get out of his truck, and walk wherever he wanted, and some punk teen casing homes, visiting one parent because he was suspended from school, had no right to attack him for doing so. Martin knew exactly what he was doing, and he got what he asked for. He should have walked home, instead of jumping someone.