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Knapp, who conducted the biggest investigation of the case, came to this conclusion;
“I’ve worked it longer than anyone and my opinion is that while it is not a black or white story and it is not clear as to what was going on whether Bob was really telling a revelation or whether he was telling a story that was supposed to be told. I don’t believe he was consciously telling some disinformation thing. I think he was led down a path. I think they let him see glimpses of stuff. They decided to pick someone who could be easily discredited after the story gets out and he was perfect for it. He had such crazy wild interests and had credentials that were not easily provable. They figured let’s see what happens when we tell this story of Area 51… I believe Bob really was out there. I believe he really did see some of this. He saw something that looks very much like flying saucers…I think maybe there are factions that wanted this story out. Would people really freak out? How would they react? It could very well be that they did have the intention – let’s tell this story. Bob gets discredited and then everyone will leave us alone, because we really do have exotic things flying around out there. No one will ever believe a story about what is flying around out here ever again... The effect was that they put it out and then pulled it back. They allowed Bob to spill the beans, allowed us to tell the story, and then in the eyes of a lot of people discredited him entirely.”1
When contacted the IRS lists his tax background as secret and when contacted the DNI (Department of Naval Intelligence) will confirm a Robert Scott Lazar worked for them during that time period in Nevada but all other details are secret."
Originally posted by spiritualarchitect
After that Los Alamos finally admitted that Bob Lazar worked as a physicist at the Los Alamos Meson Physics Facility. So we at least know that part of his story was true.
George Knapp found an old Los Alamos phone directory showing Lazar listed as working for a contractor called Kirk-Meier, who provided contract technical people...according to this source he was probably a technician:
Originally posted by hellobruce
Originally posted by spiritualarchitect
After that Los Alamos finally admitted that Bob Lazar worked as a physicist at the Los Alamos Meson Physics Facility. So we at least know that part of his story was true.
That is not true actually - just when and where did Lazar get a physics degree?
That source has a lot of facts from public records, so if you're not familiar with Lazar, that's a good place to start looking for some facts.
1982: Listing in Los Alamos National Laboratory phone book, located by George Knapp. (8)
Stanton Friedman states: "The phone book is not just from LANL but LANL, The Department of Energy, Kirk Meier (spelling uncertain) and others. The listing after Bob's name clearly shows K/M which means Kirk Meier and proves he did NOT work for LANL, but for a subcontractor. This seems appropriate since the Meson Facility mentioned in the Monitor article is a user facility with teams coming from all over to set up their equipment for experiments at the accelerators. As many as 1000 people per year can go through there. They work at the Lab, NOT for the Lab. They do get listed in the phone directory. He apparently was a technician.
This project began as an attempt to verify Robert Lazar's story of "vanishing records". What was uncovered was not only a multitude of records, but records that portray an individual and story very much at odds with that generally accepted. Some of these records appear to contradict statements made by Lazar.
Originally posted by Cosmic911
Bob Lazar's fraudulent W-2 statement. There is no agency known as the United States Department of Naval Intelligence; it is the Office of Naval Intelligence. You think someone with degrees from MIT and Cal Tech would not committ such a menial mistake when forging credentials.
Originally posted by TauCetixeta
Originally posted by Cosmic911
Bob Lazar's fraudulent W-2 statement. There is no agency known as the United States Department of Naval Intelligence; it is the Office of Naval Intelligence. You think someone with degrees from MIT and Cal Tech would not committ such a menial mistake when forging credentials.
Don't be naive.
Haven't you heard that within the intelligence community that there are organizations within
organizations that officially do not exist?
The United States Department of Naval Intelligence is one of those organizations.
Originally posted by Cosmic911
reply to post by TauCetixeta
Naive? Who's being naive? Do you even realize how foolish your explanation is? (I appreciate that at least you tried to answer my question.)
So you want me to believe that this super-secret intelligence agency is so secret that it doesn't exist, yet they just exposed themselves by listing themselves on a W-2. It's a complete contraindication. Complete Fail. An agency that doesn't exist doesn't pass out W-2 statements at year's end. They don't have addresses. They don't take taxes out of your paycheck. A strawman company would be listed on his W-2, or other front company. At the very least, his contractor, which is his employer would be listed, not the customer, which would have been the Office of Naval Intelligence.
Just think about your answer for a second...edit on 7-12-2012 by Cosmic911 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Cosmic911
I love how the pro-Lazar camp always resorts to the "shadow government" defense whenever a reasonable and rational explanation isn't available. "Well the government made his records disappear." Or "Well the government erased this....or erased that." How convenient that they don't have to explain anything at all. It's no wonder no one believes any of it. "Well the government created that prostitution pandering charge." Come on, people? Wake up. People who supposedly graduated from MIT and CalTech at the same time, don't end up in obscurity playing with children's chemistry sets in northern Michigan.