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Originally posted by inverslyproportional
Originally posted by ldyserenity
reply to post by Hefficide
Or are you going to just stay bitter and see it all crash and burn,
I'd like to see it crash and burn. We always need a cycle of destruction for rebirth. Hopefully can be done right this time.
My thoughts exactly! Starred!
I think many are overlooking the real issues, this isnt "bushes" fault, or any single other Americans, it is a generations wide problem. It began under Roosevelt, and has gotten steadily worse, compounded by Dick "I am not a crook" Nixon, as after the gold standard was cancelled, and coupled with the FED, the "infinite growth" model is the problem.
All these corps ran out of "infinite growth" room, thus they stopped paying well, cancelled benefits packages slowly by degrees, then they cut jobs, all in the name of trying to continue on in their obviously failed business model.
If the "too big too fail" comanies had all gone under, as they should have, they would have already been replaced by younger, more economical companies, that still have many ears of "infinite growth" left.
Which is of course, the only honest solution for the current business model.
Company gets large, has alot of money, pays well, runs out of growth room, dies, gets replaced by a younger smaller, less bloated and greed company, world spins on unhindered.
None of them will ever see this of course, as they cannot allow a world without them on top at all times.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
I agree both Democrats and Republicans went for the baillouts. Tea Party was against the baillouts, for the record.
But here you are calling Obama and the Democrats right wing again. Why do left wingers keep trying to disassociate from them and yet are responsible for re electing him?
Originally posted by mrnotobc
Originally posted by Thepump
They are not all crooks, that is extreme and ignorant.
There are good and bad people anywhere you go
We're not talking about people. We're talking about politicians. Sure there's one or two honest ones, but not enough to stop the bleeding. An since you mentioned it, i'll just point some of the very few honest politicians are republicans. Don't let the truth make you angry. Learn from it. The majority are corrupt on both sides.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
So, my premise was that donating to La raza and all their social responsibility stuff didn't make them a financially feasible operation.: (no reason given)
FEC releases official popular vote count from 2008 presidential election
August 9th, 2009 · written by Peter Orvetti · 47 Comments
The Federal Election Commission has released its “2008 presidential popular vote summary for all candidates listed on at least one state ballot.” The results:
•Barack Obama (Democrat) 69,498,516 [52.93%]
•John McCain (Republican) 59,948,323 [45.65%]
•Ralph Nader (Independent, Peace and Freedom) 739,034 [0.56%]
•Bob Barr (Libertarian) 523,715 [0.40%]
•Chuck Baldwin (Constitution/Reform/U.S. Taxpayers) 199,750 [0.15%]
•Cynthia McKinney (Green, Independent, Mountain) 161,797 [0.12%]
•Write-In (Miscellaneous) 112,597 [0.09%]
•Alan Keyes (America’s Independent) 47,746 [0.04%]
•Ron Paul (Constitution, Louisiana Taxpayers) 42,426 [0.03%]
•Gloria La Riva (Socialism and Liberation) 6,818 [0.01%]
•Brian Moore (Liberty Union, Socialist) 6,538
•None of These Candidates [Nevada only] 6,267
•Róger Calero (Socialist Workers) 5,151
•Richard Duncan (Independent) 3,905
•James Harris (Socialist Workers) 2,424
•Charles Jay (Boston Tea Party/Independent) 2,422
•John Joseph Polachek (New) 1,149
•Frank Edward McEnulty (Unaffiliated) 829
•Jeffrey J. Wamboldt (Independent) 764
•Thomas Robert Stevens (Objectivist) 755
•Gene C. Amondson (Prohibition) 653
•Jeffrey “Jeff” Boss (Vote Here) 639
•George Phillies (Libertarian) 531
•Ted Weill (Reform) 481
•Jonathan E. Allen (Heartquake ’08) 480
•Bradford Lyttle (U.S. Pacifist) 110The Hill reports on its website that among the “tens of thousands of votes cast for write-in candidates, ultra-fringe parties, and fictitious (or erroneous) contenders” were 43 write-in votes for Vermin Supreme, 19 for Bill Clinton, 11 for Mickey Mouse, nine for Santa Claus, seven for Donald Duck, and five each for “Jesus” and “Joe Plumber”.
Candidates receiving exactly one tallied write-in vote for president were Jose M. Aparicio, Theodis (Ted) Brown Sr., James R. Germalic, Ronald G. Hobbs, Charles Jay, Keith Russell Judd, Lou Kujawski, Curtis Montgomery, Reverend Mere Peace-MsMere, John Leroy Plemons, Michael Skok, David Jon Sponheim, and Shelley Renée Upchurch.
You realize that the most prosperous society in history was after Roosevelt's reforms right?
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
Freedom of speech in terms of financial contributions should a cap
I understand your frustration that someone heroic like Ron Paul cannot win because other people had more money. That is the big business of elections unfortunately. However in an effort to promote the underdog you really seem to be supporting a way to equalize speech, not necessarily encourage free speech. In other words, if someone you want to win doesn't have enough money, you want to stop other people from spending money on their free speech, so the end result is curbing free speech. This is what the liberals tried to do with talk radio and npr, by controlling legislation to force equality by stopping others from their free speech.edit on 19-11-2012 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Anundeniabletruth
Originally posted by mrnotobc
Originally posted by Thepump
They are not all crooks, that is extreme and ignorant.
There are good and bad people anywhere you go
We're not talking about people. We're talking about politicians. Sure there's one or two honest ones, but not enough to stop the bleeding. An since you mentioned it, i'll just point some of the very few honest politicians are republicans. Don't let the truth make you angry. Learn from it. The majority are corrupt on both sides.
I would argue otherwise...
Some of the very few honest politicians are independents.
Consider your mistake fixed.edit on 19-11-2012 by Anundeniabletruth because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by neo96
What the next 4 years are going to look like in a nutshell is exactly what the last 4 years have looked like
4 more years of being told I hate poor people
4 more years of being told I hate women
4 more years of being told I hate African Americans
4 more years of being told I hate Hispanics
4 more years of being told I hate Gays
4 more years of being told I hate the middle class
4 more years of being told how evil corporations are
4 more years of being told how evil banks are
4 more years of the mass media ignoring everything inherently wrong with the current administration
4 more years of how the GOP is obstructionist.
4 more years of tax the rich
4 more years of the liberal superiority complex from a party that claims everyone is "equal"
4 more years of "like how totally awesome Obama and the Democrats are".
4 more years of Blame Bush which makes Bush the longest serving Potus in US history.
The United states of ignorance is what the country is
The united states of dysfunction is also what this country is.
Blah blah Blah
In the immortal words of Benjamin Franklin:
We are all born ignorant, but one really must work hard to remain stupid.edit on 18-11-2012 by neo96 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Allenb83
You sound like a socialist bleeding heart liberal when you say you need to compromise your individual values for what's best for this country...
Originally posted by Aisling
reply to post by Americanist
Thanks Americanist. What will coconut oil do? How much oil would I dilute to how much water? I appreciate the tip.
Originally posted by Battleline
reply to post by neo96
If you don't agree with the progressive socialist running the country now you will, they don't debate facts they just ridicule people that don't agree with them.
This is what you get from people that hate and anger is a part of there everyday life to the people that diagree with them and have facts to back up what they say, they call everyone liers first and start in on your list after that.
There is no compromise, its there way or you are all the things on your list as I'm sure you have found out answering the ridacule and hate you have no doubt experienced here on your thread.
Good luck with this and the next four years.