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Originally posted by macman
reply to post by Daughter2
Because "For the Common defense" is in the Constitution.
0bamacare is not.
Is it not more pertinent to ask how many have had to mortgage their homes or take on other debt in order to pay their medical bills? How many have seen their retirement funds evapourate because of sickness in their household. Those ain't talking points.
Originally posted by macman
When and where has someone been denied medical treatment within the US? Your thoughts are based on fallacies and Dem talking points.
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
]Is it not more pertinent to ask how many have had to mortgage their homes or take on other debt in order to pay their medical bills? How many have seen their retirement funds evapourate because of sickness in their household. Those ain't talking points.
Originally posted by macman
reply to post by Merinda
So 0bamacare will feed people as well, so they don't starve to death?
When and where has someone been denied medical treatment within the US?
Please, I beg you to provide one instance of this.
Your thoughts are based on fallacies and Dem talking points.
abcnews.go.com...
A 24-year-old Cincinnati father died from a tooth infection this week because he couldn't afford his medication, offering a sobering reminder of the importance of oral health and the number of people without access to dental or health care.
www.cnn.com...
"I honestly don't know how much more I can endure," Elder wrote earlier this year in a Facebook message to her friend Liz Jacobs. "I am fighting for (Medicaid) and disability. I can't work I sit in bed I cry a lot. I am still fighting for healthcare and still fighting foreclosure.
As she typed the note, Elder could scarcely breathe. Her lungs had filled with fluid over several months; her respiratory system was shutting down. After visits to the emergency room and several free clinics, Elder was finally diagnosed with Hodgkin's lymphoma.
But what makes her family bristle: Elder did not have to die.
If she had had health care, "Absolutely she'd still be here," said Jacquelyn Elder, Leslie's daughter, adding that Hodgkin's lymphoma has a high survival rate. "That is something really hard to deal with."
thinkprogress.org...
“No, you go to the hospital, you get treated, you get care, and it’s paid for, either by charity, the government or by the hospital. We don’t have people that become ill, who die in their apartment because they don’t have insurance.”
Emergency rooms serve as a place of last resort, but 45,000 Americans still die every year because they lack health insurance, or one every 12 minutes. Uninsured adults under age 65 are also at a 40 percent higher death risk. Hospitals may treat patients for emergency medical conditions regardless of legal status or ability to pay, but patients with chronic conditions that don’t require emergency interference are often unable to access needed care.
www.commercialappeal.com...
In the five years from 2005-2010, 3,483 Tennesseans died because they lacked health insurance, the study said.
www.huffingtonpost.com...
Lack Of Health Insurance Killed More Than 26,000 In 2010:
I believe it's called insurance. Everybody pays into a larger pool, and draws upon it when needed. Seems to work up here...cured my cancer for $32 out of pocket...and our standard of living is at least as good as yours.
Originally posted by macman
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
]Is it not more pertinent to ask how many have had to mortgage their homes or take on other debt in order to pay their medical bills? How many have seen their retirement funds evapourate because of sickness in their household. Those ain't talking points.
SO everyone else should be footing the bill of your hypothetical person?
Originally posted by FreebirdGirl
Read much?
abcnews.go.com...
A 24-year-old Cincinnati father died from a tooth infection this week because he couldn't afford his medication, offering a sobering reminder of the importance of oral health and the number of people without access to dental or health care.
Originally posted by FreebirdGirl
www.cnn.com...
"I honestly don't know how much more I can endure," Elder wrote earlier this year in a Facebook message to her friend Liz Jacobs. "I am fighting for (Medicaid) and disability. I can't work I sit in bed I cry a lot. I am still fighting for healthcare and still fighting foreclosure.
As she typed the note, Elder could scarcely breathe. Her lungs had filled with fluid over several months; her respiratory system was shutting down. After visits to the emergency room and several free clinics, Elder was finally diagnosed with Hodgkin's lymphoma.
But what makes her family bristle: Elder did not have to die.
If she had had health care, "Absolutely she'd still be here," said Jacquelyn Elder, Leslie's daughter, adding that Hodgkin's lymphoma has a high survival rate. "That is something really hard to deal with."
Originally posted by FreebirdGirl
A tribute to those who died because they have no health insurance
www.youtube.com...
Originally posted by FreebirdGirl
thinkprogress.org...
“No, you go to the hospital, you get treated, you get care, and it’s paid for, either by charity, the government or by the hospital. We don’t have people that become ill, who die in their apartment because they don’t have insurance.”
Emergency rooms serve as a place of last resort, but 45,000 Americans still die every year because they lack health insurance, or one every 12 minutes. Uninsured adults under age 65 are also at a 40 percent higher death risk. Hospitals may treat patients for emergency medical conditions regardless of legal status or ability to pay, but patients with chronic conditions that don’t require emergency interference are often unable to access needed care.
Originally posted by FreebirdGirl
www.commercialappeal.com...
In the five years from 2005-2010, 3,483 Tennesseans died because they lacked health insurance, the study said.
Originally posted by FreebirdGirl
www.huffingtonpost.com...
Lack Of Health Insurance Killed More Than 26,000 In 2010:
Originally posted by macman
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck
We have private insurance, Medicare and Medicaid, SCHIP programs and state adult programs as well.
Yet, the Govt jacks those things up as well.
Originally posted by macman
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck
We have private insurance, Medicare and Medicaid, SCHIP programs and state adult programs as well.
Yet, the Govt jacks those things up as well.
So, no, there is no need for more control by the Govt.
Hey, what are the wait times you guys have for treatment for major things?
Also, wasn't there a high up in the Canadian Govt that came to the US for treatment.
Simple math...if health insurance is run on a not-for-profit basis ie money is not leeched out of the system to pay a shareholder dividend, then it's going to cost less. In this country, universal health care is a human right.
Originally posted by buddhasystem
From what I see, one major component that is "jacked up" is the private insurance premiums, to the effect that I effectively earn less year after year since I want my family (kids and all) covered.
Is that not the compromise that had to be made to get it past the GOP?
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
They have made it to where you now will see the "poor" of America having to choose to pay a fine just so that they are allowed to not have any decent medical care. Just let that sink in for a little bit.
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Is that not the compromise that had to be made to get it past the GOP?
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
They have made it to where you now will see the "poor" of America having to choose to pay a fine just so that they are allowed to not have any decent medical care. Just let that sink in for a little bit.