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Israel - Palestine Update Thread. No hate. Just updates.

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posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 09:40 PM
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Almost sunup. Unusually quiet as well.




posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 09:42 PM
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Apologies if already posted....just getting in and catching up.

www.jpost.com...


Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu assured US President Barack Obama on Friday that he does not plan to launch a ground operation in the Gaza Strip - unless Hamas escalates its rocket war, The Daily Beast reported Saturday, citing two US officials briefed on the call.

“The Israeli leadership at this point is leaning against a ground invasion. No one wants that. If Hamas ratchets up the pressure, however, they may elect to do so,” a senior US official told The Daily Beast.

A US intelligence official described the conversations between the two leaders on Gaza as markedly different than their discourse on Iran, in which Netanyahu has refused to give assurances that Israel would not unilaterally attack the Islamic Republic, according to the report.


So it looks like no ground attack is planned right now. However, if a rocket manages to get through the Dome and hit Tel Aviv or Jerusalem I'm guessing that would be a trigger.

Pretty astonished Israel are showing restraint after those two cities were targeted, to be honest. I felt sure they would go in hard once that happened.
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posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by intrptr
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is that what that sound is? drones?


Mmm-hmm


dont they sound like any other plane?



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 09:43 PM
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Well they're not Cessna's.

Is it me or have they been getting lower and lower each night? Maybe that's keeping the rocket launchers hunkered down?

Just speculating.



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by Jordan River

Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by autopat51
 


is that what that sound is? drones?


Mmm-hmm


dont they sound like any other plane?


This particular type that we are probably hearing is a single prop, medium altitude UAV. Most likely, because there are no air defenses in Gaza, they are flying at a lower altitude. Pure speculation but plausible.

Unless Gaza has a natural "prop-plane" hum all the time....

Another possibility is the Heron TP....that thing is a beast and the size of a GA-craft (hat-tip to intrp for the Cessna reference!).
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posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 09:47 PM
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Dont all planes sound like this? at least thats how i watched ww2 and other war history channel stuff

minus jets



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 09:48 PM
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twitter link


Thousands are heading from #Egypt to #Gaza in 2 hours.. keep up with our news especially on twitter


It's not totally clear what this is all about, but it appears to be the twitter account of an Egyptian activist.



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by Jordan River
reply to post by ownbestenemy
 


Dont all planes sound like this? at least thats how i watched ww2 and other war history channel stuff

minus jets


Prop-planes yes. But as already alluded to, I doubt some general-aviation buffs are out cruising the skies over Gaza in their Cessna. All other war-planes in use will be jets.



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 09:50 PM
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dont they sound like any other plane?

What other plane? The ocean, the borders and the sky overhead are one hundred percent locked down by Israel. Drones are a single prop craft. So you hear their engine and the engines of at least one other, sometimes two? They are overhead alright, buzzing around all_night_long. And all_day_long.

Armed themselves, they also spot for indirect artillery and naval gunfire. Or maybe that last bombing run.



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 09:51 PM
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Got another feed, mobile, apparently in Gaza (although site says Egypt??), hear drones and roosters.
bambuser.com...



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 09:51 PM
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Rockets are hitting in gaza now.



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 09:56 PM
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Excellent find. Looks like a hand held. Be careful out there. That drone overhead may think you are holding a weapon!!!



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 09:57 PM
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And Reuters has switched to their Border feed



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 09:57 PM
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If the drones are low why doesn't hamas attempt to shoot the down?
Don't they have weapons...plan ahead
They dont seem prepared, it is an a-kicking



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 09:58 PM
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Have you got a link to that live feed



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 10:00 PM
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Originally posted by aarys
reply to post by DragonFire1024
 


Have you got a link to that live feed


reuters.livestation.com...



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 10:01 PM
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Originally posted by Level
If the drones are low why doesn't hamas attempt to shoot the down?


"Low" doesn't mean they are just over the tops of buildings. Most likely operating in the 10,000-25,000' altitude range. Small arms would be useless and RPGs in this case are useless.



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 10:01 PM
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Originally posted by aarys
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Have you got a link to that live feed


Reuters reuters.livestation.com...



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 10:04 PM
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MASSIVE AIRSTRIKE! HIGH RISE!



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 10:04 PM
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Holy jacks! 2-jet bombing run so close to camera!



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