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New petition on Whitehouse.gov: Strip the Citizenship from Everyone who Signed a Petition to Secede

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posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

Originally posted by muse7
reply to post by TDawgRex
 


Yes I am from Texas,

Austin voted for Obama, does that mean that if Texas does secede does Austin get to secede from Texas?


there's a petition for that too.....




I will start petition now ..i want Obama to have plastic surgery and become white.




posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 03:04 PM
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What part of the Constitution authorizes the federal government to spend public monies on a "social safety net"?


Those godawful implied powers. www.streetlaw.org...

The commerce clause alone covers damn near anything they want to include any time they want to include it.



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 03:05 PM
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posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 03:06 PM
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reply to post by rockintitz
 



The only way to strip their citizenship is to let them secede.

Right?

LOL at this new petition.



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 03:08 PM
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posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 03:19 PM
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I live in Texas and since the election I've seen several American flags flying upside down. I'm talking about in nice neighborhoods too. I've never seen that before. Normally Texans seem super patriotic.



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by TheAngryFarm

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07



I am not a constitutional lawyer so it is not my job to know the details of the constitution.

Personal responsibility needs social responsibility to make soceity function properly.

And if it is not in the constitution it can always be added later on. Hiding evil intentions behind the constitution speaks volumes of the flawed character of people like you. The document was written centuries ago and can always benefit from amendments because things change.




You are capable of reading correct? Why not peruse through it so you actually know what it says. You had no problem stating the unconstitutionality of recent wars, so either you are lying now about not knowing the constitution, or you simply regurgitate whatever bs you read on your little socialist websites.


I never stated the wars were unconstitutional. I was asking a question to your silly question. I am not hiding behind the constitution. Conservatives are!


I'm assuming you are in your early 20's, likely in college, and unfamiliar with the real world.


My age is none of your concern.


Do you have any idea how hard it is to add an amendment to the Constitution? I'm sure you dont. Needless to say it is very difficult, and there is a reason for that.


To keep it corrupt? Most of our constitutional fathers were masons.


What evil intentions am I hiding behind the Constitution?


Again the constitution never states it is ok for corporate military imperialism.


Personal responsibility does not need social responsibility in order for a society to work. If people were responsible for themselves, they wouldnt need government to fall back on. If people ran into a rough patch in life, they are many private organizations, as well as friends, family, etc etc.


That is one of the cheapest slogans conservatives like to parrot to excuse their buddies of all kinds of crimes.


As it stands right now, parasites can be on welfare for 5 years. 5 freaking years. If those losers cannot get their proverbial crap together and make their life better , they can rely on the public dime to subsidize their pathetic existence. To make matters worse, these degenerates can be counted on to vote for whoever promises them more of other peoples money.


I don't care about stopping welfare because people like you support outsourcing and automation that has killed america for 20-30 years. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. Profits come first only for parasites like wall street. Capitalism is just as big a failure as communism was and it will be proved.


Desperate measures and some tough love is in order if this country hopes to have a future. Pain must be felt, and in some instances, agonizing pain is deserved. Let them suffer, and soon enough they will either die, or evolve into responsible adults. Either way, society as a whole benefits.


I hope the pain is felt severly by those responsible for bankrupting america with false flag attacks, the corresponding wars, the people who hide all their evil deeds behind an outdated constitution, those that outsource and those that criticise welfare and unions.
edit on 13/11/12 by EarthCitizen07 because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 03:20 PM
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All these people up in arms and the best you can do is file a petition?



It's as worthless a toilet tissue. Ironic how one group of people file a petition to secede then some very successful troll created a counter petition and people actually feel threatened


I remember when I was in high school and kids would fill out a petition to get a extra carton of milk at lunch or some other silly request that never came to fruition. For christ sake this is not Attica! Don't set your beds on fire over something that will never be implemented over some popular demand. The body is not going to sever it's limbs because they are sore


Get a grip folks, yeah we are all frustrated and disgusted liberal, neocon or whatever cup of tea you prefer. The power brokers behind it all are on borrowed time, it's gonna take a collective effort to remove these malignant parasites from the controls. Petitioning is like throwing a slice of bologna at a M1 Abrams tank! It is pointless, it is like protesting the bankers instead of the Fed! All you will get out of the ordeal is being on some no fly list. You are doing it wrong.

How about i start a petition at the white house web page demanding free beer? Yeah that will do it, Free beer every Friday and throw in some hot wings. Wanna bet i can muster up 25.000 sigs for free beer? We can make it happen. The people demand beer, they have spoken time to deliver POTUS!
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posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 03:24 PM
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there are plenty of Letf wing countries you can go like greece cuba



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 03:28 PM
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Originally posted by knightrider078
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there are plenty of Letf wing countries you can go like greece cuba


You forgot a couple

I'll help you out

Sweden
Norway
Switzerland
France
Denmark
Belgium
Japan



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 03:30 PM
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Since you believe the Constitution is so outdated, you certainly wouldnt mind giving up all of your Constitutionally protected rights then correct?

No guns for you peasant.

No free speech for you either, since that whole concept is outdated. Right?

How about we let government agents burst into your house whenever they feel like it ?

You, oh enlightened one, certainly dont need any of those protections.

Right?

As for your age, your avoidance proves affirmative. Early 20's, and not a clue as to what happens in the real world.

Since youre such a big fan of socialism, and I can afford it, how about we come to an agreement. Right here on a public message board, I will offer to finance your relocation to whatever socialist nation you choose with the only condition being you never step foot in the U.S. again.

Sound good little boy?
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posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 03:34 PM
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Anyone can make a petition, so clearly someone is being a troll since everyone and their mother seems to be making a secede from the US petition. Your gonna get this stuff from both sides, there is also a keep austin texas part of America petition as well. Also the legitimacy of a secession is up for question anyway since Andrew Johnson made a law against it after the civil war but hey go ahead and try.



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by TheAngryFarm
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
 


Since you believe the Constitution is so outdated, you certainly wouldnt mind giving up all of your Constitutionally protected rights then correct?

No guns for you peasant.

No free speech for you either, since that whole concept is outdated. Right?

How about we let government agents burst into your house whenever they feel like it ?

You, oh enlightened one, certainly dont need any of those protections.

Right?

As for your age, your avoidance proves affirmative. Early 20's, and not a clue as to what happens in the real world.

Since youre such a big fan of socialism, and I can afford it, how about we come to an agreement. Right here on a public message board, I will offer to finance your relocation to whatever socialist nation you choose with the only condition being you never step foot in the U.S. again.

Sound good little boy?
edit on 13-11-2012 by TheAngryFarm because: (no reason given)


Can I finance your relocation to Somalia?

I'll even throw in some sheep and cows so you can get a head start



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by Ireminisce
I live in Texas and since the election I've seen several American flags flying upside down. I'm talking about in nice neighborhoods too. I've never seen that before. Normally Texans seem super patriotic.


Is that like being crucified upside down?



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 03:37 PM
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It's a distress signal. SOS etc.



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 03:37 PM
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posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 03:39 PM
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Seriously, google is your friend since you dont know the meaning of flying a flag or ensign upside down or inverted. Its a signal of DISTRESS... an international signal of "dire distress".



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by muse7
reply to post by TDawgRex
 


Yes I am from Texas,

Austin voted for Obama, does that mean that if Texas does secede does Austin get to secede from Texas?

25,000 signatures do not represent 25,000,000 people.

Obama won, time to get over it. Maybe the Republicans can give us a better candidate in 2016
edit on 11/13/2012 by muse7 because: (no reason given)


Did you see the petition that says if Texas seceeds, Austin wants to remain in the USA and seceed from Texas?

sounds like your kind of petition.

God Bless,



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 03:51 PM
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This is morose. Stripping citizenship is not secession. There is no parallel.

Further, it is demeaning free speech by enacting official punitive action as a result of free speech.

While I do not support the stripping of anyone's citizenship, if I did it would be the folks who think that stripping citizenship is the obvious end game for speaking your mind.



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 03:54 PM
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Originally posted by NoJoker13
reply to post by rockintitz
 


Anyone can make a petition, so clearly someone is being a troll since everyone and their mother seems to be making a secede from the US petition. Your gonna get this stuff from both sides, there is also a keep austin texas part of America petition as well. Also the legitimacy of a secession is up for question anyway since Andrew Johnson made a law against it after the civil war but hey go ahead and try.


The state of Texas can't "secede", as we are a part of the union by treaty. Andrew Johnson's law has no bearing on us.

Regardless, if Austin wants to leave Texas, good riddance. They are too much like California for me. Bunch of fat, horned rim glasses wearing hippies shopping at Whole Foods in their ugly yoga pants and turtleneck sweaters.



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