Left sees Sandy as an opportunity to push for bigger government

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posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 02:32 PM
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As usual, never waste an opportunity even during crisis as per the liberals. Surely the statements will be twisted and turned to the extremes...especially before the elections regardless of who posts the article/news on the web or TV (likes of MSNBC and their cartoons and other characters like sharpton). The real worthiness of the agency will be determined post the REAL reports and eyewitnesses on the ground from the entire Sandy cleanup,rescue and restoration effort.

"Absolutely," he said. "Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that's the right direction. And if you can go even further and send it back to the private sector, that's even better." Mr. Romney not only believes that states acting independently can handle the response to a vast East Coast storm better than Washington, but that profit-making companies can do an even better job. He said it was "immoral" for the federal government to do all these things if it means increasing the debt...........
The left sees federalism - deliberately or stupidly - as akin to "stats' rights" - which is a dog whistle for the droolers and mouth breathers in their base meaning the GOP will bring back Jim Crow or some such nonsense. In fact, federalism will be our salvation. It will make government more efficient while stripping Washington of performing functions better left to the states or the private sector.

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posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 02:34 PM
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How will it make Gov Bigger?

NEWSFLASH

FEMA is already in existance.



posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by Tw0Sides
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How will it make Gov Bigger?NEWSFLASH FEMA is already in existance.

Read the article...


It's an absurd notion, but it's fully in line with decades of Republican resistance to federal emergency planning. FEMA, created by President Jimmy Carter, was elevated to cabinet rank in the Bill Clinton administration, but was then demoted by President George W. Bush, who neglected it, subsumed it into the Department of Homeland Security, and placed it in the control of political hacks. The disaster of Hurricane Katrina was just waiting to happen.



posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 02:54 PM
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You do know Government has shrunk
since Obama's been in office right?
Here's a story about Rand Pauls
head exploding when he found this out.
thinkprogress.org...
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And here's the story by FORBES
in case you believe Think progress is lying to you.
www.forbes.com...
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posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 02:58 PM
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Originally posted by sealing
You do know Government has shrunk
since Obama's been in office right?
Here's a story about Rand Pauls
head exploding when he found this out.
thinkprogress.org...
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Yet government spending has increased.

Kinda defeats the whole "make government smaller" meme, doesn't it?



posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by sealing
You do know Government has shrunk
since Obama's been in office right?
Here's a story about Rand Pauls
head exploding when he found this out.
thinkprogress.org...
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Yet government spending has increased.

Kinda defeats the whole "make government smaller" meme, doesn't it?


From the Forbes article linked by Sealing.


Amidst all the cries of Barack Obama being the most prolific big government spender the nation has ever suffered, Marketwatch is reporting that our president has actually been tighter with a buck than any United States president since Dwight D. Eisenhower.





posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by sealing
You do know Government has shrunk
since Obama's been in office right?
Here's a story about Rand Pauls
head exploding when he found this out.
thinkprogress.org...
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Yet government spending has increased.

Kinda defeats the whole "make government smaller" meme, doesn't it?


Government spending has increased by the smallest amount in recent history.

Kinda blows that whole Obama is increasing government like a mad man meme, doesn't it?



posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 03:09 PM
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So over 1 trillion a year, and yet it's lower than every president since Eisenhower?




posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 03:09 PM
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And RIGHT sees it as a way to blame the left and demand change.

Disasters happened during Bush, and Bush grew the size of the government, and created new agencies, and agency heads, and botched the response, just like Obama has grown the size of government, and created new agencies, and botched many responses.

Knock it off already! If you didn't actively campaign for Ron Paul, or Gary Johnson, or some other Independent or 3rd Party figure, then you have no right to point fingers left or right. Left and Right are the same now.

The only hope lies in the fringe extremists on either side, who actually have more in common these days than anyone in the middle.



posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 03:09 PM
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Never let a tragedy pass without using it for political trolling. Well played.



posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 03:12 PM
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Yes, really.

Obama inherited a huge deficit from Bush, this is a FACT.

And despite that and the recession, he has managed to reign in spending so it didn't baloon even more.

Facts my friend, not right wing talking points or memes.



posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 03:13 PM
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Originally posted by Taiyed
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Yes, really.

Obama inherited a huge deficit from Bush, this is a FACT.

And despite that and the recession, he has managed to reign in spending so it didn't baloon even more.

Facts my friend, not right wing talking points or memes.


Yet you respond with left-wing talking points.



Please, don't you dare start telling us that Obama is a fiscal conservative.



posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer
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So over 1 trillion a year, and yet it's lower than every president since Eisenhower?



From the same article.



P.S. What have you done to Benevolent Heretic?


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posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 03:15 PM
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There are no "fiscal conservatives" in party leadership. None. If they are truly a fiscal conservative, they will get shuffled to the fringes like Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich, or they will get adopted and converted like Paul Ryan. Fiscal Conservatives do not stay conservative and in the limelight for long. One or the other has to change.



posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 03:22 PM
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(had her fixed!
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posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by darkhorserider
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There are no "fiscal conservatives" in party leadership. None. If they are truly a fiscal conservative, they will get shuffled to the fringes like Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich, or they will get adopted and converted like Paul Ryan. Fiscal Conservatives do not stay conservative and in the limelight for long. One or the other has to change.


Star for truth!



posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Never let a tragedy pass without using it for political trolling. Well played.
You're welcome.



posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by hp1229

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Never let a tragedy pass without using it for political trolling. Well played.
You're welcome.


I dont recall saying thank you.



posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by captaintyinknots

Originally posted by hp1229

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Never let a tragedy pass without using it for political trolling. Well played.
You're welcome.

I dont recall saying thank you.
You dont have to. It was a response to your comment depending on which way you sway or which party you believe in.



posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer
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That is a chart showing deficit. You were talking about spending.


Originally posted by beezzer

Yet government spending has increased.


I'm not even going to mention that your chart is from the Kock brothers Heritage Foundation. (Bugger! I just did.)






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