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posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
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So what happened to the atlantians and lemurians? Where they not our elders that got destroyed because of people like you who refused to acknowledge the presence of evil "aliens"(more like our slavemasters who have colonised earth hundreds of thousands of years ago for gold and other elements) and thus failed to act properly in unison against this evil?

The illuminati(or illuminated ones, aka agents of chaos) are the human chosen ones BY THESE MALEVOLENT ALIENS(the nephelim) as described in the secret covenant and perhaps protocols of the learned elders of zion. You have to connect the dots yourself if you are interested in finding the ultimate truth. People like David Icke, Alex Jones, John Lear, Richard Hoagland, Thomas Castello, Phil Schneider, Bob Lazar, etc help but you do the work.

Look at the world right now and tell me if you think it makes sense. People of one religious sect conquering and massacering people of other religious sects. Spending much more on military hardware than on social welfare programs. People who intrinsically hate the government yet love the military. They are hack jobs or extremely delluded. Why do people hate the government? Do they know why? Small government is not the answer anymore than big government is the answer.

Why did they go back and forth to the moon from 1970 to 1972 on numerous missions if there was nothing to be found and it was a dry hostile place? Why did they send buzz aldrin who was a 32nd degree scottish right mason? Maybe to cover-up the findings since masons specialise in keeping secrets? Why do they say the spaceship moon theory makes the most sense out of all the hogwash nasa is pushing? Why do disinfo agents harrass these people?

I can be here all day lecturing you on why secret societies exist and why things are the way they are. It is kind of entertaining but kind of scary at the same time too. For example the dulce and montauk mysterious that are ignored. On and on!


This is a perfect and amusing example of people who vouch for things with such certainty even though it was so far before their time, we still have very little proof of it.

But you are going to sit here and insist that ETs who are alive NOW should be looked at as evil because of this story about evil aliens who are very much dead and gone.

You really ought to be ashamed of yourself for that one.

How the hell are you going to hold some ET flying around sporting green skin unbeknownst to him is a sign of great evil according to some humans in light of their WAY PAST DEAD ancestors demise, which they have zero proof of.

Brilliant. just brilliant.

Start over if you want to debate with me because your train of thought is so badly scattered across numerous details, that while may be important, does not in any way shape or form indicate that the ETs who have visited this Earth in our time are evil.

Shame on you for trying to pull such a stunt. tighten up. Get your argument together, you need to clear your mind and come at me with something more cohesive than a ridiculous insinuation that Atlantis fell and it's my fault. Grow up and get a better argument because I will not sit here and read such nonsense. If you want to have a real conversation then remind yourself how to have one because it seems you've forgotten how to even begin one.
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posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 11:21 PM
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Calm down brother. When we raise chickens, goats, sheep for harvest do the victims know ahead of time that we are evil? Are we evil because we need their protein or is it a necessity of life? Likewise the africans brought to the new world to work in the fields for a day's meal and shelter in a barn? Did we not act evil then? Do we not have this permenant stigma attached to white man aka aryanism?

The reptillians could of colonised the entire solar system perhaps 100,000 years ago, now live in hollow earth and in the hollow moon, and via their orders tell the illuminated agents of chaos what needs to be done for humanity to continue down its slave path, with a culled herd of course. They probably fear humanity's potential and feel they need to cull the herd. I don't blame them looking at it from their perspective, but it is also the victims desire for freedom that is important.

Where is our gold and why is our currency fiat based?

Are you a reptillian that needs to stand up for that species? You speak as though you are an agent provocateur against humanity so calling you a possible alien seems rational.
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posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 11:30 PM
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oh yah we should discount Icke because Bill Maher thinks all religion is stupid. Yah way to go.



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 11:32 PM
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Originally posted by Amanda5
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Anyone who thinks the shooting of Malala Yousafzai is just another news item - needs to look at David Icke and at the very least - entertain the concept of an evil presence being a viable thought - let alone a valid reality.

Great post and thank you.

Much Peace...
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I appreciate where you're coming from, but...

The thing is, humans are TOTALLY capable of unbelievable stupidity. Stupidity and cruelty that, like, boggles the mind. As distressing as this is to admit that it's just part of our human inheritance, we find it easier to deal with by putting those that act this way 'over there' somehow.
When you start explaining stupid ignorant cruelty by attributing it to a supernatural, inhuman evil, you are really on the slope to dehumanising certain people, and when that happens, you can excuse your own actions against them.
Whilst not an exact parallel, that's why it was so easy for the white world to justify the way they would treat native inhabitants of countries they 'discovered' - they assumed they didn't have a soul, or experience emotions the way we did.
It was also how the jews came to be so reviled that they could be mass-exterminated, they were dehumanised to the point where the people that defined themselves as the 'true' humans thought it their duty in protecting their human interests. It's much easier to do these things when the other is seen as an animal or less than human, or invaded by evil alien bodysnatchers.
Just be careful with this type of thinking.
We need to deal with human evil on this level, and accept that it's part of our potential. Aliens or demons don't need to 'unlock' it for us. If we think like this we'll never understand it and defeat it.



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 11:41 PM
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Originally posted by supermarket2012

Originally posted by smurfzilla

Originally posted by Mumbotron
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an theory .


et past it.





Why do you think the "serpent" is used metaphorically in many ancient wisdom traditions?


so silly as to say my truth outweighs another persons truth. However, I am intelligent , and sound enough to know that my Truth IS indeed, truth.


I really enjoyed reading something based on his stuff about the reptilian mind that s within us all that we must overcome. I thought that made PERFECT sense... or maybe the reptilian thing is just one take on it, because this Earth did go through quite a reptilian age so yes, I believe we are ALL connected to reptilians but it's not necessarily bad... It serves a purpose and we move beyond it... but I really did like reading about that.

I just want to add the disclaimer that I think all the shapeshifting reptilian videos are nonsense... I just want to make sure my stance doesn't sound willy nilly because people will not read back to what I've already said.

I don't buy into the elite connection but I have dreams about guys with green scaly skin. I do not know who they are if they are ETs. It is not the same ET as the one I met. So, yes... I'm interested in the reptilian thing but it's the picture that this whole thing is painting about TPTB and saying ETs are all evil which I absolutely do not believe for hundreds of reasons... all things I have pondered back and forth, back and forth over quite a span.
I am VERY interested in what he nows.

Not what he claims... what he KNOWS. Not even so much in what he can prove but so far, I don't even know why anybody just up and shouted one day "That guy on TV is a shapeshifting reptillian"

Does he tell this story? Does he say "once when I was a wee lad, I was playing in the garden when suddenly I saw...."

Where the hell does this stuff come from? I'd love to know.

I can understand some takes on the connection, totally can. Some of us act like straight up snakes that bite.

Some of this though... it's baseless. I mean even in a fictional sense, it's baseless. If someone in here even has a half ass theory as to how the queen is a shapeshifting alien, I'd love to hear it. And dont tell me dreams because have them too, it only makes me think my dreams are being implanted so let's not go there.

Seriously, what's the story?

Where did the reptilians secretly working for (or ruling) the elite come from?

I believe there COULD be shapeshifters perhaps... especially in dream world.... If you can control dreams, even through tech... you can be anything you want to be. I believe some aliens might even be able to copy DNA and make their cells have a little disguise sort of... but it is not a complete change, size and shape stays the same.... the body doesn't grow or shrink painfully, it just "appears" different... but it's just a chameleon effect, I think. I just think some types of cells can have a more self controlled behavior. Maybe an advance life form has some special skills at the cellular level or something.... but that still doesn't make them evil. It just means you have more to learn about life forms and it should be no surprise because we already know that life forms can do amazing tricks and most of them are not even meaning to do it.... it's just their nature.

Bush, a shapeshifter?... balony.

Something in the back of everyone's ind ought to clue people into the fact that most of these people aren't cool enough to be shapeshifters. Come on!

That is not these people's problem... It's not. They have a whole other set of boring yet tyrannical problems and a lot of it comes from being INEPT... of not knowing how to really solve problems thereby taking the dirty ass way out.

They do not possess great personal power much less ET powers.

Could there be non human tricksters among the elite? Sure, Why not... but they are most likely just making fools of them because they certainly aren't getting much accomplished.

My ancient genetic lineage being related serpents is no indication of ET agenda like some so eagerly jump to, but Sure it's interesting.

For those who truly desire to know the truth, the whole issue really deserves a much better conversation that just jumping to conclusions like some do. So I am interested in hearing the base, the foundation of these theories for that reason. If there i more to lineage than just keeping money in the family, it might be a good story. I have wondered if ETs were related to certain families but I don't want to get into that too deep, it's a complicated theory but it doesn't change the fact that both good and evil can come out of the same family, let's say British royalty. I'd still listen... but not to silly accusations like some throw around like it's their job.



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 11:41 PM
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I have to be honest, when I first came across David Icke, I thought he was a way out there, but as I have done a lot more research over the years, I have come to see that many of the things that David talks about have been talked about by others, some who were around long before David. I also have read enough in other books and writings


Conspiracies in general are difficult for people to accept, for one thing because they have been taught since early childhood the ways of materialism and because the evil is so monstrous that people often just do not want to deal with it. I remember as a grade schooler, they showed us the movie "Future Shock", and the idea that robots walking around as people and you could not tell the difference was pretty strange then.
People watch shapeshifting on Star Trek and think it's not possible for it to be real, but who came up with that idea? Who came up with the idea of teleportation?
I do find the reptile shapeshifting hard to accept but the ideas on the Illuminati and such are not so difficult to comprehend. Children of The Matrix is a freaky book.
But how come so many people here accept aliens in general but not David Icke's theories?



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 12:11 AM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
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Calm down brother. When we raise chickens, goats, sheep for harvest do the victims know ahead of time that we are evil? Are we evil because we need their protein or is it a necessity of life? Likewise the africans brought to the new world to work in the fields for a day's meal and shelter in a barn? Did we not act evil then? Do we not have this permenant stigma attached to white man aka aryanism?

The reptillians could of colonised the entire solar system perhaps 100,000 years ago, now live in hollow earth and in the hollow moon, and via their orders tell the illuminated agents of chaos what needs to be done for humanity to continue down its slave path, with a culled herd of course. They probably fear humanity's potential and feel they need to cull the herd. I don't blame them looking at it from their perspective, but it is also the victims desire for freedom that is important.

Where is our gold and why is our currency fiat based?

Are you a reptillian that needs to stand up for that species? You speak as though you are an agent provocateur against humanity so calling you a possible alien seems rational.
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No, those things do not make us evil until we realize that we don't need to slaughter a herd to have food (some still can't grasp this)... it makes us very primitive and reluctant to change because I am personally, not a meat eater... but lets not get into my diet. Its just a personal opinion that we need to stop the cycle of ALL killing where possible, including animals AND each other. When we CAN make better choices yet we refuse, like refusing to go to a war you know is wrong... then yes, it would make that person evil. Part of evolution needs to be about making better choices and evolving as an entire species, not just a physical body. It must also be a social and spiritual evolution or the chances of that species not surviving in the long run grows.

That has NOTHING to do with ETs being evil. Again, SHAME ON YOU. You are holding a terrible conversation on your end and I'm embarrassed to be trying to explain this to you.

Maybe ETs did colonize the Earth a long time ao but that is NO indication that they are giving orders to the Illuminati!

Where is our gold? Are you like seven or something?

The rich have quite a bit of it and it's NOT to give it to ETs.... it's because there is much uncertainty about the value of currency. Gold always has value but you might wake up tomorrow and the paper dollar has none.

So those who can afford gold buy gold until economies stabilize.

Are you going to ask me how to use your brain next because I'm not getting paid to sit here and listen to your BROAD associations about everything under the sun. SHAME ON YOU.

You are just throwing around accusations without even thinking about what you are saying and I'm finding it very distracting.

I'd appreciate it if you'd knock it off. I didn't come in here for some bullcrap time wasting argument.
I came in here to discuss Icke and some of his stranger theories and you are completely ruining my forum experience, thank you very much. NOT. Do you think perhaps you could stop wasting my time please? I'm all out of troll dollars it seems.

I am a REPTILLIAN?

You need to have your internet taken from you.

What a stupid question. If I was an ET would I be on the internet talking to you? I don't think I would, I would probably be in my invisible blinged out Illuminati space ship.

Was I ONCE an ET?... This is something that for all we know could have happened to a lot of people but in itself, does not inspire an automatic response of "taking up for the species"

I find myself arguing with silly people like you for 3 reasons.

!... Some humans are trying to start a war

2 Some humans are hiding some info that I think violates the rights of living beings

3 I have met one and he is dear to my heart, relays truth to me through this smoke screen of lies and has secretly been with me in spirit all along and that is why my conscience is clear, see through many lies and see that men in this day and age must be stopped if they are propagating war and too many ARE... too many do nothing but make mistake after mistake. I am not against humanity, I don't know where you get this from, you just made it up. If I was against humanity wouldn't be trying to warn anyone of the lies I see. It wouldn't make any difference to me one way or another because nothing in my world would change. I would simply have MORE TIME on my hands.

PS.... You'd make a really crappy lawyer.

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posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 12:21 AM
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Stop killing plants then and just live on prana, because plants are sacrificing themselves for your sustenance.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 12:23 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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I have to be honest, when I first came across David Icke, I thought he was a way out there, but as I have done a lot more research over the years, I have come to see that many of the things that David talks about have been talked about by others, some who were around long before David. I also have read enough in other books and writings


Conspiracies in general are difficult for people to accept, for one thing because they have been taught since early childhood the ways of materialism and because the evil is so monstrous that people often just do not want to deal with it. I remember as a grade schooler, they showed us the movie "Future Shock", and the idea that robots walking around as people and you could not tell the difference was pretty strange then.
People watch shapeshifting on Star Trek and think it's not possible for it to be real, but who came up with that idea? Who came up with the idea of teleportation?
I do find the reptile shapeshifting hard to accept but the ideas on the Illuminati and such are not so difficult to comprehend. Children of The Matrix is a freaky book.
But how come so many people here accept aliens in general but not David Icke's theories?


Because some of us have seen them with our own eyes.

I like "could be's" too.... but "could be's" aren't the same thing as a truth. We're supposed to be looking for a truth here. An understanding. If there were robots among us... let's find them... there must be ways to detect them. If reptiles run the world, let's try to catch one or at least explain why they don't just reveal themselves as our overlords... and how did they get so boring and dumb to be so advanced?

I guess i'll be out of here soon.

there doesn't really seem to be much to chew on.

Maybe Icke has some good points but no one is trying to point them out so... why bother?



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 12:34 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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Stop killing plants then and just live on prana, because plants are sacrificing themselves for your sustenance.



Yeah, people try that a lot. It really doesn't work

Living off prana AND pretending plants cry and run away.

Maybe one day people WILL be able to live off prana and stop eating plants and this is a better way but please try to observe the path provided for you in the here and now. k thanks.

People try to live off prana and die. People can live off plants and do not need to kill animals. We can grow b12 like we can grow food but at one pint in time we could not do this. At one point in time if you told early man to only live off of plants he would have likely become extinct.

ADAPT, CHANGE... that is what evolution is about.

There's no reason for us to continue killing animals. Once we had a better excuse, our excuse become more and more like just an excuse.

That is the way it IS. That is the fact. We do do not need to make the animals suffer, we just like the taste. BEFORE, we might have needed animals to survive.

It's really not complicated. Do as little harm as you can. Use only what you need. That is age old wisdom... I do not have to take credit for that. People need to recognize that silly technicalities do not make for good arguments.

You do what you can. You make better choices if you can. It's really pretty simple.

If you continue in old ways for pleasure or just out of habit and it is destructive, evil or NOT... IT'S NEEDLESS.

I've made my point and for the record... I'm not in here to just burn time people.

Get serious and let's have an adult conversation or talk to SOMEBODY ELSE.
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posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 12:35 AM
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So for you, seeing is believing, you have seen an alien therefore you accept that premise, but have not seen a shapeshifter so you cannot accept the premise. That is the scientific method of accepting only what you can observe.

I would point you to one of my favorite biblical statements.


11 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Hebrews 11:1

King James Version (KJV)



Not that I particularly hope to see an alien being or shapeshifter any time soon, but I don't discount the theories just because I have not seen.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 12:41 AM
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I was half kidding really just to make the point that plants are alive too. I have heard that animals have a group soul. Even in the bible it was acceptable to sacrifice a goat on the altar.
But if you are able to live without eating meat that is wonderful. Just be careful how you do it. I have heard stories about people who got really sick and needed something like B15. Some very spiritual people have been told by other very spiritual people to eat liver once in a blue moon to keep the strength. (Just don't eat the polar bear liver because the organs of the polar bear store too much concentrated Vit A)
science.howstuffworks.com...




posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 12:53 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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So for you, seeing is believing, you have seen an alien therefore you accept that premise, but have not seen a shapeshifter so you cannot accept the premise. That is the scientific method of accepting only what you can observe.

I would point you to one of my favorite biblical statements.


11 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Hebrews 11:1

King James Version (KJV)



Not that I particularly hope to see an alien being or shapeshifter any time soon, but I don't discount the theories just because I have not seen.


You have no idea what you are talking about.

I just made it very clear that I even believe shapesifters could be possible and explained a perspective of it according to one of my own theories so you are clearly not paying attention and do not even DESERVE an answer... but you so badly need one....

This is not about what I claim is not possible. This is about people talking crap without a base for an argument... like you keep doing.

Don't you understand something this simple? If you present NO BASE, it leaves NOTHING to talk about.

You want to talk? Give me substance? I have NUMEROUS experiences and perspectives that have gained from both observation and experience and even if you choose not to believe what I say, that's fine... I can still explain to you how I got to that conclusion.

You're making me deviate from the reptilian issue and argue about how to have a simple conversation.

*sigh*... this is childish and I'm getting really bored with it.

Even if Icke does not have proof, how could he convince me the queen was a reptilian when THAT story has never even been told!.... It's just in stupid videos that might not even be linked to him!

WHEN ARE WE GOING TO TALK ABOUT ICKE'S PERSPECTIVE?

When are we going to talk about ANYONE'S perspective for that matter? You want to make this a thread about scientific method, not the subject at hand. You can't even vouch for your own perspective on this. That is my problem with a couple of people in here. They can't even talk about their own veiws, they just want to turn into an argument with who ever else is in the thread.

Get back on topic! Sure, everyone goes off topic at times but some of you act like you are trying to derail the thread and this is the third or foutrh time I have said this, if you do not base your comments on this about SAID ISSUE and the foundation of your OWN OPINIONS... we are not having a real discussion here!

Either let's have a real discussion about the topic or stop talking to me.

I am trying to talk about the subject, please!
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posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 01:05 AM
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My experiences with ETs go well beyond seeing one on one occasion. Do not generalize that I think a certain way when you know nothing about me. Apprantly, you're not understanding what I've even written in this thread so let's not make this about me.

Can we please get back onto the shapeshifter issue or his other strange theories... because I really want to know about this.

What I'm getting, is disappointment because I've yet to see why ANYONE believes this. No one can even talk about their own reptilian experiences.

I have heard ONE PERSON on coast to coast tell a half way believable reptilian story.
I don't know if I've even HEARD any other reptilian stories. People seem to believe this simply because the Illuminati is evil therefore serpents must be involved and that's shameful.

You know what get's me??.... Reptilian statues.... Yeeah, there you go. What the hell is up with reptilian statues? I'd like a list of ancient reptilian statue makers, yes indeed I would!



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posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 01:21 AM
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I'm not saying that I believe that reptiles are ruling over humanity, but it's not as outlandish a theory as one would think. Aside from the historical points within our own history that constantly reference reptilian humanoids, we have to remember that prior to humans this planet was ruled by large reptilian creatures. The point is, if we as humans had enough time to evolve since the extinction of the dinosaurs, imagine how advanced a species of them would be if they found a way to survive?

I know the knee jerk reaction is to call the guy a kook and brush it off, but there are certain pieces of his puzzle that tend to fit together. Without proof though, David Icke will remain in his own little entertaining world with very little support.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 01:35 AM
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David Icke is a



This guy like a lot worshiped on here by many are out to make money, they're like a good religious leader preach on what people like to hear or have been mislead into believing so yes EXACTLY like religion.

As for a NWO heard it for many years and once you have heard it for 10,20,30 + years guess what there is NO NWO it's actually OWO (old world order) the same people have always been in power!

Royal families,religious leaders,governments and powerful business men always have been.

ICKE is an idiot plain and simple
he wasn't even that good when he was on tv for a living.

Look at some of his old tv work before he discovered reptilians and look at him now and you will see he has lost it big time!
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posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 01:54 AM
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Originally posted by Dishonored
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I'm not saying that I believe that reptiles are ruling over humanity, but it's not as outlandish a theory as one would think. Aside from the historical points within our own history that constantly reference reptilian humanoids, we have to remember that prior to humans this planet was ruled by large reptilian creatures. The point is, if we as humans had enough time to evolve since the extinction of the dinosaurs, imagine how advanced a species of them would be if they found a way to survive?

I know the knee jerk reaction is to call the guy a kook and brush it off, but there are certain pieces of his puzzle that tend to fit together. Without proof though, David Icke will remain in his own little entertaining world with very little support.


Oh yeah, yeah... I can totally see this. it has to do with the Earth ages. Some Angels (ETs) were here and aware from the LAST Earth age.... so yes, this ties in. I will have to recall the source of that but yeah, I'm on board with this.

In another thread I was referring to how it might have been to be among intelligent reptiles... it could have been rather dangerous because of cold blooded temperament causing faster reaction to conflict and all sorts of things. I can't remember the thread but i even brought up that maybe that intelligent reptilian life was a colony from mars. I've got all sorts of thoughts on this and as I have stated in previous posts in this thread I have seen some green scaly guys in some of my dreams and one of them has a large snout and teeth... like he's part croccodile, a lizard man. I don't know who he is. I don't remember him. He may just be an illusion of the mind... a dream, but have seen him more than once.

Make no mistake, my speaking was certainly NOT against the idea of reptilians... I have just never seen one in the flesh. If my visitor is reptilian, he doesn't show it. I have seen him look a litle green in one or two dreams but when I saw him he was white, very pale... with dark wrinkles and black eyes.

What I'm trying to understand is how any of that is connected to the elite? That's the part no one is explaining... they just fastforward thousands or millions of years and say SEE? told you.


I know about statues and drawings and all sorts of serpent related things but it's neither here nor there when it comes to this thing about Reptiles being Illumninatir consultants. That's the meat I want to get into. That's what I have a real problem with if people are just carelessly slinging around such accusations just for fun. What if there is some gecko man walking around who is a really nice guy?... What does that have to do with the rothschild family. I'm just not getting that. It's a reach I do believe.

But yeah... I have been all over the reptile age thing, very interesting stuff. I don't think that automatically spells ut evil but these guys could have been REAL big meat eaters if they looked anything like the one in my dream. REALLY scary teeth. Who knows, maybe they bred so fast and were so populated they became cannibals and maybe another race hunted them out.

I also had a theory about the chinese lion, that he was a pet... a hunter... a large hybrid animal guardian that helped bring down the old order of reptiles... intelligent or not, the dinosaurs.

Look at one, he's so well kept, his mane full of curls like he was a pet... a large tooth tied to a rope on his neck and a ball under his foot because his masters played with him. He was a pet... Where would such a beast come from? A genetic project? What if someone long ago saw this lion and that was what he really looked like... haha!. Just a story but you never know. Maybe he was someone's special hunter, their special creation.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 02:09 AM
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I never really mentioned Mars or ETs, but that's cool? I don't know what goes on in the guy's head man, I'm just trying to think of a way it could work. If we evolved on this planet, why couldn't another species? So the asteroid hits yea? All the dinosaurs get wiped out but the smaller ones that are able to burrow their way underground. There they sit evolving to survive in their new habitat. Humans come along and the reptile guys are all advanced and stuff and the humans are throwing rocks at each other? So the reptiles are like hey bro no use this or this and that. Now build things for me. I like sand so make a pyramid? And the reptiles have been in charge through hybrid bloodlines ever since?

See? It doesn't even need to be ET!



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 02:10 AM
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there is clearly a lot of truths that you have acquired from him. do not follow him because he is just a man and is seeking the outcome of his own agenda. take what you need and follow through, do not even worry about spreading the message, at least not on the internet! an individualistic approach would be more effective, talk to neighbors, try and get them to wake up, ya know!



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 02:54 AM
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Originally posted by Dishonored
reply to post by NotAnAspie
 


I never really mentioned Mars or ETs, but that's cool? I don't know what goes on in the guy's head man, I'm just trying to think of a way it could work. If we evolved on this planet, why couldn't another species? So the asteroid hits yea? All the dinosaurs get wiped out but the smaller ones that are able to burrow their way underground. There they sit evolving to survive in their new habitat. Humans come along and the reptile guys are all advanced and stuff and the humans are throwing rocks at each other? So the reptiles are like hey bro no use this or this and that. Now build things for me. I like sand so make a pyramid? And the reptiles have been in charge through hybrid bloodlines ever since?

See? It doesn't even need to be ET!


I know reptiles don't have to be ETs and I wish they didn't get generalized that way but they do and my point in that is that material like this is propagating ET fear, it isn't propagating ancient species fear, it is "there are aliens in underground bases"... that is what is being said. "The grays are slaves to the reptiles and the reptiles mutilate cattle and get high off the secretions" Basically what I'm saying is whether you think they are from another star, another dimension or another time and never left... they are still getting lumped into the "Bad guy" category.

The fear category. The NON HUMAN category. The NOT US category. You get what I'm saying.

If this were true reptiles would be everywhere. They would have flourished if they were in control. Why would they bother controlling us THROUGH us? What a boring job that would be. The only reason to even keep us alive as a species is if they used us as food.... ahh, yeah, here we go again. I've even mentioned flying vampire reptiles in another post and why they were taken down and the only reptiles allowed to live crawl on their belly just like the bible says... looking around. Find a reptile that doesn't crawl on it's belly.

That still doesn't add up to them telling the elite what to do. The elite make a mess of the world... do they just want an ugly world? Do they really just want to watch the most full of crap news possible? Why give the elites any glory if they wanted to control us? I think an advanced race could run a cleaner ship even if they DID want to drink our blood. The stunts that TPTB pull are a lot LESS like evil overlords and a lot MORE like spoiled children who never have to face their deeds.... but who cares, I don't want to analyze them. None of that is important because it is simply projection and this is what I wanted to avoid.

I don't want theories of why someone might be guilty. An accusation deserves a testimony.

Why do YOU believe in reptiles. I couldn't care less what "could be"... It's not adding up to anything.

Your argument is the pyramid. There's a pyramid so evil reptiles OBVIOUSLY told us to build it?

People who believe the elite are reptilians are not merely guessing, they are insisting in many different ways that the visitors who have come to this earth in recent history have misled the government and that pisses me of considering i believe they were on an important mission. I'm not talking about any of this other stuff, not the last earth age, not the pyramids, not lizard genes in our gene pool... I'm not talking about any of that.

I want to know where people get that Clinton, the queen, the bush's and God only knows who else is a reptile.

You can talk about whatever you want but if you quote me again remember what it s I'm talking about because I don't want to rehash the other stuff. It's not near as important to me in this case. I know all about possible evolution of other animals and that maybe none of these guys are ET, maybe they are inter dimensional or have been here all along. I've been through that a thousand times, that's why I keep telling you... yeah, I've thought about this, or I've thought about that already... I even have a lot of my own theories about this stuff... moving forward, moving forward.

THE ELITES.

Back to the elites. Why don't they shapeshift into better looking humans? Come on, tell me that?

Again, anyone who talks to me... I am on a certain subject, please observe. I'm sorry but I really don't want to talk about anything else. I'm not real comfortable being in this thread to begin with and I don't want to go through all this obvious stuff.

I want someone to give me a compelling take or rehash Ickes take (the compelling part) on why we are supposed to just believe that our upper crust is holding secret meeting with non humans.

I say bullHONKINcrap... and I've got reasons, give me yours.

Next taker.





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