Why The Dislike For David Icke Exposing The NWO? [Please Read Before Replying]

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posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by IsawWHATtheyDID

Originally posted by bowtomonkey
I've read him once about an author he was attacking as if she is the devil. In fact, I've never read something more evil than what David Icke wrote.

It seems to me that he causes panic and rides the wave to see what he can take.. like a thief.

My guess is that he has enough intelligence to get a semi-realistic impression of TPTB but hopes top dictate who is good and bad according to an agenda.

There is no expose on the NWO. He is attacking the idea as itself is a threat, rather than the analyzing the players in a reasonable fashion.

I don't know if he's just confiused and lost in a bit of ego, or if he's downright satanic.

His followers are the dumbest people anyone can have the displeasure of meeting - They are alarmist, panic whores and self interested ingrates with barely a few brain cells between them.
I read some of your posts in philosophy and metaphysics and i am a little confused by your last comment. your first remarks in this post were your reasons for dis liking icke, but ya kinda lost it there at the end.


Can you be specific?




posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 07:34 PM
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I have to be honest, when I first came across David Icke, I thought he was a way out there, but as I have done a lot more research over the years, I have come to see that many of the things that David talks about have been talked about by others, some who were around long before David. I also have read enough in other books and writings, as well as some documentaries to realize that many of the things that David talks about can be correlated to other things that I have read and studied. This includes but is not limited to the Illuminati, child sacrifices, and even the reptilians, that so many are so doubtful about. Even the Bible talks about Satan appearing as a snake, or reptile in the Garden of Eden where he tempted Eve. Moreover, their are many Egyptian artifacts that picture reptilians in what would appear to be commanding positions.

What I don't have any doubt about is that much of the knowledge about earth and its history has been either destroyed or hidden away. After all, the library at Alexandria was destroyed at least twice, and maybe as many as four times, with one possibly being accidental, when Julius Caesar burned it. One has to wonder why would these libraries be destroyed, what did they contain, and what knowledge was lost, as well as what knowledge were they trying to destroy.

There are plenty of questions to lengthy to go into here, but when one starts taking layer after layer of information and knowledge and then begin assembling it in a comprehensive matter, the picture that is created, and the one we are and have been taught for years, and in some cases hundreds of years, don't fit in a nice little package like some would have us believe.

For that reason, I don't dispute what David says, though some of it is pretty mind boggling I do have to admit. At the same time, as more and more information is discussed and revealed, it becomes harder and harder to discern what it real and truthful, and what is being used to deceive people. For that reason I say with David's work as well as many others, keep it in perspective, but don't rely on it anymore than you would many other writers.



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 07:34 PM
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Originally posted by Wonderer2012

Originally posted by SLAYER69
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Even a broken clock is right twice a day but make no mistake, it's still broken.
He's a little too out there for my taste. Just makes me wonder sometimes if his cheese has slid completely off his cracker...



Let's humour you then, why do you take this view?

He discusses at length the centralisation of power that is apparent in the world today, divide and conquer, do you deny all these things?

Or is it simply because he believes a non human force is at work guiding and manipulating mankind? That may seem crazy at first, but what would be your take- if you had to answer the question- 'how and why are we here'? What put us here? All answers are crazy for those who even dare attempt to answer it.



i dont buy into his whole reptilian story, i think its utter rubbish and only gullible people would buy into it, i dont think it takes a great deal of critical thinking to cast doubt on a lot of what he says in relation to this reptilian race of beings, however, i do feel there is a lot of truth in what he says about the global control of power. What i dont understand is why people seem to need to take this leap of logic to the idea that its some reptilian race controlling everything, and not just a bunch of evil humans calling the shots. History is full of examples of the high and mighty of society dominating the masses, it has been the model for our civilisation for a least the last 10,000 years or so, is it really that hard to believe that a minor number of humans in powerfull positions would be so calice towards their fellow man and show such disregard for the welfare of others? Its part of our nature as a species, we are terrible to eachother, just as we can be incredibly compassionate towards eachother. there is a massive dichotomy with the types of behaviour exhibited by humans, both past and present, we are capable of such great compassion, and also such disregard and hate for eachother.



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 07:36 PM
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Some people just don't have the mind to comprehend what he talks about. They're stuck in a caveman mentality and they're comfortable with it. They don't see anything wrong with being a slave til death because it offers them a false sense of security.. and we all suffer for it.

Icke's not a conman or a liar. He's nuts, for sure, but name one visionary who isn't a little bit nuts? Even Jesus was considered a nutter in his day and age for christ's sake. Icke's just ahead of his time (maybe by a century or two), but nonetheless we need him. Ignore the haters - what do they contribute in the way of solutions to our problems? They're more concerned about Obama's birthplace or the inevitable global job deficiency than the more urgent overall question of "WHAT THE F#CK IS GOING ON?" and "WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO ABOUT IT?"

Let 'em hate on David. At the end of the day it doesn't make a difference - what matters is what people in the 'Know' do about that knowledge. The world won't be saved by the masses. It'd be nice, but it's not gonna happen. This is a struggle between two minorities. Only difference is that the evil minority has the military-industrial complex, the banking cartels, the lawmakers, the religious leaders, the education systems and most other societal institutions under their thumb....


.....and we have David Icke. Lol. Sometimes I'm not so sure we picked the winning team, but in the end it doesn't really matter. I know what I believe in (love, unity, etc. as opposed to hate, war, greed etc) and whether it's a losing battle or not, I'm not just gonna give up because it's tough. If you don't fight for what you believe in then what's the point in believing in anything?



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 07:41 PM
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Originally posted by Wonderer2012

1. People may not agree with his theories on Reptilians, but is his theory that crazy? Let's


Yes.


2. Icke had a good job as a presenter. He gave it all up to try and expose the reality of the world and how we are manipulated. At the beginning, he didn't make any money, he used to talk to very small audiences and faced extreme ridicule for doing so.


more evidence that he is crazy.


3. Yes, Icke now makes money from what he does.


And what he does if BS scaremongering and fantasy generation.

Thre's nothing wrong fantasy of course - lots of authors make money ff it.

It is presenting it as factual, and possibly even believing it himself that bakes him batshirt insane.



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 07:57 PM
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I love how you say this like it's a fact lol. I'm no saying that you are wrong, I'm just very intrigued by it and wish you had any sort of solid proof to go along with it.



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 08:07 PM
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I like Icke....I find him fascinating. A con-man he is NOT. First off if he was conning people he would know his information was false; and if you every listen to a lecture or read one of his books, you would know he fully believes his message. He is just trying to open up the minds of the masses. We all know now we are being deceived by something, that just seems to be evident in these times. So, I don't know about you but as for me I want answers. I think he has done a lot of research on this subject and has correlate his conclusions about our reality. I find his theory unusual and not a subject I can bring up in a conversation without sounding crazy. Do I believe him....Maybe!!!
But I have never seen a reptilian for myself, nor do I think I want to.
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posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by zbeliever
I like Icke....I find him fascinating. A con-man he is NOT. First off if he was conning people he would know his information was false; and if you every listen to a lecture or read one of his books, you would know he fully believes his message.



see how good a con man he is!!



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 08:52 PM
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He's been fairly spot on regarding the paedophile circles that are slowly coming to light on certain celebrities and politicians.

In fact he even went so far to name some of them.... and lo and behold, the press has started covering those cases right now.



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 08:55 PM
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Mr. Gaul, if you have nothing to say, then don't bother.



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by LightWaveWarrior
I like the way everyone refers to "the Reptilian THEORY". A theory is an idea which someone has which may or may not be true. There are thousands of Reptilian life forms living on this planet disguised as human beings. They are intelligent and widespread and nearly everyone has run into one in their normal life and not know it. And you will not know unless they choose to reveal themselves which they are not supposed to do. Everyone is concerned with the Illuminati or some other elite humans when in truth many of them are Reptilians in disguise. And as far as David is concerned, he will go down in history as a hero for bringing this subject into the light of day. That is, if we as humans have a future on this planet.

No no, that's the one and only aspect of it which isn't true at all.



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 09:00 PM
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All the big players always get a TON of disrespect, insults, and negativity thrown at them. David Icke, David Wilcock, Edgar Cayce (yes, in his time he definitely did), Alex Jones, etc etc. I could literally list THOUSANDS, all the way from thousands of years ago, to right now, active "activists" which are disrespected and insulted and called all sorts of things, such as crazy, retarded, "gay", idiots, etc etc.

WHY? That is the age old question, isn't it? It isn't just in this "industry", it is in others. A great band comes out. Slowly they start to build a fanbase, until they take America over by storm. Then what happens? It is no longer "cool" to like them. So then everyone talks about how terrible they are, and how mainstream they are. It is now "cool" to "hate" them.

Alex Jones was "cool" to like years back. Now it's "cool" to "hate" him. Same for all the others above.



Here is something I learned long ago, while I was still a teenager. In life, you have to learn what benefits you (increases your energy, enjoyment, knowledge, etc), and what doesnt (what drains your energy, causes conflict, negativity, etc etc). Once you are able to dechipher for yourself what is POSITIVE, and what is NEGATIVE......you learn that the public opinion has nothing at all to do with reality. The public opinion sways back and forth , ALWAYS, and isn't based on sound logic....it is based on ego, and emotion. People are ALWAYS looking for things to identity with, and things to "attack". When put together, this creates a false sense of identity for them, and a false sense of connectivity with others. Afterall, we may not really have anything in common, but if we all come together to hate something, we feel united! (believe it or not, that is OFTEN the thought process subconcsiously of many individuals).


So, why do people dislike David Icke? If you read above, you should have somewhat of a basic understanding of what causes people to dislike someone like him. Of course, there are other, pretentious, superficial reasons as well. None of it matters


I assure you, practice meditation and mindfulness, clear your mind, keep your body healthy, and YOU be the judge of what you allow to enter into your sphere of perception. NEVER let the ignorant masses control YOUR doorway to perception



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 09:03 PM
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David Icke is not crazy at all. It just goes to show how effective the propaganda machine has been in comforting us with distractions that are practically meaningless. He is not espousing some ground breaking news, he is simply rehashing what few people already knew eons ago. Such as the nephelim and elohim, reptillians, greys, pleadians, nordics, the illuminati(servants of evil), the role zionism plays in major war, the false-hoods of religion, who created man and for what, etc.

Many books have been written but they intentionally have a limited audience. The more people that espouse facts over opinions, the less power the bilderbergers/royals/illuminati have over the common man. Obviously they want to dillute the truth as much as possible. If you can handle the truth is a difficult question to ask but I will say the protocols of zion and the secret covenant tell the story of pure evil as most people are uncapable of believing.



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 09:15 PM
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..you argue about icke,
you argue about icke believs
you argue about icke theories
you argue about icke facts
you argue about icke fiction
you argue about icke research
you argue about icke words
you argue about icke conclusions
you argue about icke life
you argue about icke thinking
you argue about icke materials
you argue about icke videos
you argue about icke audios
you argue about icke writing
you argue about icke forums
you argue about icke websites
you argue about icke crazyness
you argue about icke point of view
you argue about icke presentations
you argue about icke heroism
you argue about icke bravery
you argue about icke wealth
you argue about icke modesty
you argue about icke investigations
you argue about icke here
you argue about icke with all
you argue about icke with someone who dont know
you argue about icke who know
you argue about icke with who do not see
you argue about icke with who do not hear
you argue about icke who is funny
you argue about icke with who is sad
you argue about icke with who is happy
you argue about icke with who search himself
you argue about icke with who search world
you argue about icke with who search past
you argue about icke who search present
you argue about icke with who search future
you argue about icke questioning
..and manny manny manny more


Thats a legacy. Thinking.Quest.
izs no matter is he icke is legitimate or not. or is he right or wrong. good or evil. true or false. or know or dont know.

That is his legacy.
you doing it, with no realising it. i think he wanted that.
talk, argue, questioning, knowing, debunking, concluding, realising it, all including david icke and his works.

Thats a point.
think about it.



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by WhoKnows100
Is he truly "waking you up"? Sure, he is bringing to light the evil in this world and it feels like being "awakensed" but only because you didn't know that it existed in the first place. But he is deception all the way round and here's why - he gives you a lot of truth and mixes it with deadly poison. He believes that a mass awakening will allow Earth to enter into a new consciousness, which is basically feeding the New Age Religion nonsense. He gives you this as the solution. Go read Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's latest UN speech and pay close attention to what he says. It's the same as Icke's "solution". Go read Freemasonry dogma and what they believe - the same. Go read the New Age dogma - it's the same. Icke's bleats on about the Problem/Reaction/Solution methodology of the "mighty men", yet steers you to their solution. He never once tells you to seek Christ Jesus as the Truth, for he knows in that instant that Jesus would heal your vision and your hearing and expose him as the deceiver that he is. You need to understand - the deception will be so great that it could nearly fool the elect. This isn't something to be taken lightly by Christian or non Christian.







Sorry, but you have a limited, Christian framework all OVER your post. "the deception will be so great that is could nearly fool the elect" - Straight from the bible, can't you come up with some original?


"He never once tells you to seek Christ Jesus" - Okay, what is your point?

So the point of your post is, David Icke isn't a fundamentalist christian, therefore he is a deceiver. Sorry, that is so close minded that I HAD to reply and call BS.



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 09:26 PM
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David Icke makes sense... he talks and you can easily understand him. His theories make you wonder. But at the end of the day, David Icke has no proof to back up his claims. Is it possible that there are reptiles controlling humanity behind the scenes? Given the history of this planet, I wouldn't be shocked if it were true. But you can't come out and call people a reptile without any proof.

The way I see it, David Icke is off is his own little entertaining world. He makes sense but he just doesn't have evidence.



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 09:28 PM
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David Icke and Jordan Maxwell; both have dedicated decades of their life to enlighten us, to open our mind and eyes to what is happening in the real world.
Once we remove Corporation Controlled Media and Hollywood out of our daily life then we will have more time to tap into our own subconscious and change the world.
Get rid of democracy (as Jordan Maxwell explains; “ruled by the mob”) and be free as we are born free.
Here is a short clip from one of Jordan Maxwell's interview.

www.youtube.com...



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 09:28 PM
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It is SCARY how someone like Icke is considered a schizophrenic, yet the MAJORITY of the world is bound by the Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) - which most people, even if they aren't a part of those religions, don't consider all of the followers as schizophrenic and crazy.

If you consider Icke crazy, how can you not consider EVERY following of the Abrahamic religions crazy? They all follow a book, which claims to be the word of God, which talks about God, Angels, Devils, Prophets, A miracle birth without a women having sex, PLENTY of miracles, such as parting the sea. Thousands of examples of extreme claims.

I'm not dogging on any of these religions, I just don't see how someone can say what Icke believes makes him insane, and yet the bible itself speaks of Lucifer, a fallen being, who came to earth, and took 1/3 of the angels with him. Nothing Icke says is more far fetched than the book of Genesis, or Revelations, etc.



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 09:30 PM
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Originally posted by supermarket2012
It is SCARY how someone like Icke is considered a schizophrenic, yet the MAJORITY of the world is bound by the Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) - which most people, even if they aren't a part of those religions, don't consider all of the followers as schizophrenic and crazy.


Being misled is not the same as being insane.


If you consider Icke crazy, how can you not consider EVERY following of the Abrahamic religions crazy?


Easily - see above.

I do not consider followers of Icke as crazy either - just deluded.



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by NewAgeMan
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Mr. Gaul, if you have nothing to say, then don't bother.



Your faux formality is a sham - my name is not "Mr Gaul" - nor is my avatar "Mr Gaul". just saying.....

when I have nothing to say indeed I do not bother.
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