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Why The Dislike For David Icke Exposing The NWO? [Please Read Before Replying]

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posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 03:08 AM
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Dude I never I said I believe in reptiles ruling the world. I never even said I put faith into what David Icke is saying. I'm right here with you asking for proof. As to why the elites? Maybe they don't want our blood to feed on it... I did mention hybrid? The blood may be more of a symbol. But you're obviously set to move on to the next caller so I won't waste your time.




posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 04:49 AM
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Originally posted by Dishonored
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ur time.


Well, when you quoted me I figured you were trying to answer my question & telling me that is how you came to the conclusion... by the things you pointed out.

I have never seen a reptillian (which would only be in a dream) drink anyone's blood so I have no reason to believe this either.

There is just a story that keeps coming up from the last earth age (crap, here I go again on the last earth age thing) I believe in karma. You know what the bible says (I'm trying to make this quick) Jesus comes back followed by an army of angels and defeats the kings of the earth. Some say Jesus is Lucifer (but I think Lucifer is ancient Babylonean king and don't know why people think Lucifer is the devil or Satan) Jesus called himself the bright morning star, that's 1 reason but these terms can't really be compared because of how they translate... and people have other reasons. I have considered that Lucifer said he would sit on the throne of the most high God... didn't Jesus kind of say something sort of like that? Or that is how people interpret it. Jesus IS God according to many, many people. Lucifer had to be brought down. Christ had to die on the cross. Jehovah forsook the nation of Israel and laid down a prophecy, Christ purchased the souls of humankind with his blood, his life actually... as Christ. His life as Christ brought a lot of wisdom to the surface and going through all that he purchased this right and this design of prophecy of fates.

What if his life as Christ was their attempt to break through openly to the world of man and the result of their efforts... Christ had to experience it because he knew the value of life and blood. He is prophesied to war with the kings of the earth but he doesn't want to because even though I am not of the thinking that he and Lucifer are one and the same, this caused me to reflect on something. What if, like Lucifer, Christ had suffering to experience because he had brought down nations of the last earth age.... Cold blooded reptilians.

What if they did this because different species of reptiles had overpopulated and thought to be out of hand?

Or what if they had war just like we do and there were both good AND bad reptiles and the end of that age is very much like the end of own, with both good and bad sitting at the table.

What if there is still a grudge between species let's say reptiles and amphibian people, who knows? What if they are still fighting or what if they have called a truce? What if Christ was of the Elohim in the last earth age and had a reason to defend himself and others against crazy reptiles running around , but he still had spilled their blood due to their nature so he had to be a man and rise above that but also experience these things so he would make the most fair judge.

And now he's supposed to come back with yet another sword & intends to live on the new earth itself among others. If his army is an army of Extraterrestrials it would explain why they are trying to give so many warnings. It would explain why they would have given some of their own over to experience this world as a human... to make their best attempt to share this world and develop & be a part of a species that can live in peace with itself & others while still being vigilant. They knew they had to give everything to break this all down evenly... & give every chance to merger these colliding worlds. The pioneers, the one who made exoduses across the stars, not just the desert... & the creation, the created. There are many reasons to poke & prod at man and laugh at him, but not lead him any more astray than he already leads himself. If we met the God that changed our path from eating lice of our mates head to traveling the stars, would we know him & would we be grateful? All the one's who want to be saved say they would be grateful but how quickly they forget what they were told, how quickly they forget that they were warned of the coming of angels opening their seals upon the earth.

Is the cycle repeating itself or just the design?

this is a theory of mine. I believe the design can change & prophecy doesn't necessarily change. Revelations tells us straight forward that something is being kept from us when the angel says Eat the little book. It could be many things but my point is, if angels are ETs & there is an ET who came here to warn that this world was about to be turned on it's head & other ETs coming here & making their presence known, maybe they don't want to do this is what is written could come to pass.

Some people think we should FIGHT ETs. They tell us all sorts of things that make them seem evil. None of that is going to compare to them coming here and the kings of the Earth trying to fight them.

What if they just want what Jesus wanted, to walk the Earth in peace?



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 05:15 AM
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That's a lot of what ifs but if what if Jehovah, thought to be good, was a being of the last earth age?

If God made Satan and satan was a serpent then what is God?

What I'm saying is that what if they all came over from the last earth age and that's why we think of them as the ones who were with God first. Satan was an Angel of Jehovah, why would Satans natural form be snake and God's natural form a dude in a robe and a beard?

I simply think they were survivors trying to make a better world, if reptiles are leading us astray because they are pissed of at the Elohim for casting them down... then what the hell are the Elohim? No matter what if they don't look 100% human they are going to get called ET and demon and put in the same bad guy category as reptilians who might be trying to spite them.... so then why do people who believe reptiles are evil also often believe ETs are evil when that story indicated that the ETs would be the Elohim, the good guys trying to save people from the reptillians and evil elite.

but no... when it comes to non humans, people like that judge them the same. They're all trying to take over or possess our souls.

It's all just ideas but I believe if you are going to accuse someone, have an individual in mind guilty of the crime... an individual suspect... have a place and time for the alleged crime and what human they committed it with.

We've got nothing like that.

We've got "It's so obvious they want our gold so naturally they are ordering around the elite"


I can think of all sorts of scenarios too why they might want to make the elite look bad, but it still doesn't pan out this story that some claim they know of the connection.

Someone should at least build a claim on ONE PERSON... just one specific person who is in cahoots with reptilians... build a case for it, but I don't get these types of arguments on this subjects... just more theories. I've got plenty of my own and they can get quite grandiose so I get a little bored with the simple ones.
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posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 05:28 AM
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Originally posted by LightWaveWarrior
I like the way everyone refers to "the Reptilian THEORY". A theory is an idea which someone has which may or may not be true. There are thousands of Reptilian life forms living on this planet disguised as human beings. They are intelligent and widespread and nearly everyone has run into one in their normal life and not know it. And you will not know unless they choose to reveal themselves which they are not supposed to do. Everyone is concerned with the Illuminati or some other elite humans when in truth many of them are Reptilians in disguise. And as far as David is concerned, he will go down in history as a hero for bringing this subject into the light of day. That is, if we as humans have a future on this planet.



This is a perfect example of what can happen when the "reptilian agenda" is pushed.
We no longer have to accept any responsibilities as humans. The Reptiles are ruling us and will do all the bad things.

Way to go David.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 06:03 AM
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I'm starting to think that David Icke is right about everything. So much of what he wrote about in the nineties has come to pass already, and the whole Orwellian society thing he warned about so long ago is becoming impossible to deny.
As for his reptilian theory, I don't really have a problem with that either. For anyone who believes we are already in contact with extraterrestrial intelligences, it's not much of a mental leap to entertain the possibility that we may have been compromised or infiltrated to some extent.
I think that many people who are actually open-minded on the subject, dismiss the theory in public because they subconsciously don't want to be the one seen to be agreeing with the "nutter" Icke. Those societal pressures to conform with mass-opinion and not step too far outside the box, are alive and well.
One thing's for sure, his popularity is increasing by the day, and that's a sign that more people are waking up to reality. Let's hope it's not too late.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 06:17 AM
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and a perfect example of MSM control right at the end Wogan states " joing me after the break im chatting with Ulrika Johnson about life in the tabloids , you'd be mad to miss it "

Of course your mad if you dont follow the tabloids or have any views on life other than MSM entertainment news !



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 07:42 AM
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Wow, wow, wow, I am at a loss for words......

Let me try to find some. Crazy Icke, the schizophrenic lizard guy who calls himself the "Son of God"? Wrong.

People need to get a clue. You can see how he develops throughout the years and he is clearly trying to warn people what he sees around him and encourages people to focus on the good of humanity. It's not the lizard topics, or him calling him the son of God that makes him crazy. It's actually the thought that people want to know the truth that actually makes him crazy. People desperately cling on to what they believe to be true even when the real truth is staring them in the face. It's a defense mechanism plain and simple.

It's not really that shocking to think he once considered himself the son of God. The reason is simple, when you are the only one awake and everyone is still drinking the Kool-Aid it makes you think to yourself why you are so different. Especially when what makes you different is a real desire to change the way we all think and feel for the better. He is overwhelmed with empathy for mankind, while the worlds elite show absolutely no empathy. And all the people in between are asleep at the wheel. When you sit an ponder on that you try to find where you fit in. Since you are so different and your heart is benevolent (genuinely) and it cries at the pain throughout the world, you find solace in others who have reflected the same emotions. Once person comes to mind.....the one and only Jesus Christ. The reason I can relate to that comment is because I began to feel the same when I first awoke. Does it make me crazy? You may so yes but reality is no, a big resounding NO. You are simply overwhelmed be your emotions and frustrations that the only person you can relate to is Jesus, a selfless being.

Does that make him perfect? No. Am I perfect? Far from it. But that does not mean he doesn't have a huge understanding of the truth, but remember he like myself, just like you are forced to see the inner working from the outside in, so you point of view is limited. He makes the best out of a bad situation in this regard. Everyone who claims to be a seeker of truth yet ridicules David Icke is only doing themselves a disservice. One man trying to find the truth hiding in the deepest recesses of our world in not infallible. People look for a reason to chastise someone like David because his words otherwise would cause such a stir in your psyche that you are then forced to play the game or walk away. If you walk away then you are left with noting and are alone and people can't handle that. If you stay and play the game you feel shallow and fake, therefore it is much easier to call him and others a fraud and lump everything he says together, because clearly if one thing he says is wrong then everything is. RIght? Name one person on this planet that is right every single time. And no your mother doesn't count!

Stay Sacred Everyone!
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posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 08:14 AM
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I probably wouldn't be posting on forums such as this were it not for David Icke, whom I've been following since 1989. You won't hear any dislike from me OP.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 08:16 AM
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I've personally been to one of his seminars and in my opinion half of it was utter garbage, 1/4 of it true and the other 1/4 was murky at best.

My view of his "reptillian" society is one of inbreeding among the royals and elite for thousands of years. Now we all know what the eventual outcome of inbreeding does - you don't have to look much further than Germany.
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posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 08:23 AM
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I have huge respect for the man, I don't believe a lot of the stuff he says but the general message is normally spot-on.
Yes everyone can say he's a con man doing it for the money but that's not how he started.
I respect him for saying what he thought, not to mention on live TV.
And what was he supposed to do after that? Just be one a recluse and never go out because of all the ridicule?
I've also always thought about how, sometimes he'll go abit over the line, like with the matrix and the reptilian stuff, but it does a good job of putting the wrong people off him.
Is is true that, if half the stuff he says is correct, then he would be on the top of every country's mos wanted list.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 08:55 AM
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He believes all famous people, royalty and politicians are shape-shifting reptillian fourth dimensional beings who feed off negative human emotions, and so they control the entire planet through financial, militarial, political and social conditioning. Just let that sink in for a moment.

Also, for anyone old enough and British enough to remember he made a total pillock of himself on national television. In a shell suit.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 09:06 AM
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Originally posted by VelvetSplash
He believes all famous people, royalty and politicians are shape-shifting reptillian fourth dimensional beings who feed off negative human emotions, and so they control the entire planet through financial, militarial, political and social conditioning. Just let that sink in for a moment.

Also, for anyone old enough and British enough to remember he made a total pillock of himself on national television. In a shell suit.


Personally, I think it was Wogan who looked a pillock.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 09:30 AM
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Thanks for sharing~

You are right...its the Main Message which has cracked open the shell for many unsuspecting individuals.

Regardless of where 'naysayers' say he went wrong (and we all have), his ideas have prompted many to question their reality and find their own answers - and again - its incumbent upon the listener to use their own innate ability and question information & find answers!

So let those who see fault find fault - and will those who see potential find solution...because its this attitude which proves one open to take what feels right and leave the rest, and willing to transform their mind!

Be Transformed~Remember Who You Are




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posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by sapien82
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and a perfect example of MSM control right at the end Wogan states " joing me after the break im chatting with Ulrika Johnson about life in the tabloids , you'd be mad to miss it "

Of course your mad if you dont follow the tabloids or have any views on life other than MSM entertainment news !


I spotted that as well, made me laugh!



Is irony even the word to describe that following the Icke interview?



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by awake1234
Thanks for sharing~

You are right...its the Main Message which has cracked open the shell for many unsuspecting individuals.

Regardless of where 'naysayers' say he went wrong (and we all have), his ideas have prompted many to question their reality and find their own answers - and again - its incumbent upon the listener to use their own innate ability and question information & find answers!

So let those who see fault find fault - and will those who see potential find solution...because its this attitude which proves one open to take what feels right and leave the rest, and willing to transform their mind!

Be Transformed~Remember Who You Are




∞LOVE
mayallsoulsbefree∞


Thanks for that link, it really helps support my earlier argument


Many people say he does it for the money etc, yet in recent years he has been producing hundreds of videos to help spread his message and that link you provided is one such example.

It's not a case of whether it is effective or expertly made, the fact of the matter is he took the time and effort to produce this video, he is doing as much as he can because he knows this world is on a path to an Orwellian 1984 style system, it genuinely worries him and that is why he has dedicated his life for over 20 years to try and create awareness.

Thanks for your post


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posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by 3chainz
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I think you're just upset that people with common sense would call BS on Icke, like most children would. But go ahead and keep believing a con-man.


So you dont mind being conned by the 'government' but dont like David Icke because he can see through all the BS you have been fed and swallowed, hook line and sinker.

Wake up dude.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by network dude

Originally posted by LightWaveWarrior
I like the way everyone refers to "the Reptilian THEORY". A theory is an idea which someone has which may or may not be true. There are thousands of Reptilian life forms living on this planet disguised as human beings. They are intelligent and widespread and nearly everyone has run into one in their normal life and not know it. And you will not know unless they choose to reveal themselves which they are not supposed to do. Everyone is concerned with the Illuminati or some other elite humans when in truth many of them are Reptilians in disguise. And as far as David is concerned, he will go down in history as a hero for bringing this subject into the light of day. That is, if we as humans have a future on this planet.



This is a perfect example of what can happen when the "reptilian agenda" is pushed.
We no longer have to accept any responsibilities as humans. The Reptiles are ruling us and will do all the bad things.

Way to go David.



nice bit of verbiage concerning personal responsibility
yet like the "there have always been king, etc." poster
you're demanding that we disregard the whole message via nitpicking
and shooting the messenger to boot.

in the end, you're just arguing for the status quo, not rocking the boat, and business as usual.

so who's not taking responsibility?

way to go net



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 12:17 PM
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When someone labled as "crazy" by the government, media, and society at large end up showing accuracy in their ideas I think it makes people uncomfortable to say the least.

Either way - David doesn't give a s/hit what I or anyone else thinks about him.

Good way to behave IMO.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 12:30 PM
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If it weren't for David Icke,
- I would still be confused about Christianity and religion
- I would still believe everything that the press and media feeds us
- I wouldn't know the truth about the Federal Reserve and our monetary system
- I would be an obsessive consumer stuck in the rat-race, reading gossipy tabloids, eating fast food garbage, and believing empty headed nonsense with most of my fellow Americans.

Note: I don't believe in the reptilian theory or shapeshifters, etc. but his theory is interesting and as creative as UFO's and Jesus, nonetheless.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 12:40 PM
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I wish I had time to follow folks around, create new accounts, and generally act like an ass, but I don't.

If you had read my previous posts, I personally like some of what Icke talks about. Unfortunately, he's not alone in his ideas. lots of folks believe the same things about those who pull the stings behind the scenes. We can speculate who they are, and what their agenda really is till we are blue in the face, but when we use the stupid cop out of just saying they are all reptilian shape shifters, we are effectively taking a zero and walking away. After all, how do you combat a reptilian?


I suppose you could create a fleet of autonomous drones that sample chemtrails and then attack folks at your will, but only an idiot would think that would be possible.
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