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Originally posted by latic
reply to post by old_god
I honestly feel your pain here, but put yourselves in the shoes of the staff dealing with these claims. Our country is full of people claiming things they shouldn't be and you cant have things both ways.
Would you rather have:
1) A system that anyone can easily exploit
2) A change to the system to try and stop people from exploiting it (Long term goal)
I've been in the same situation as you, however I didn't claim as I managed to sort myself a job out just before I was getting to that stage, but be honest with yourself and admit that a lot of the feelings your getting are because you really do not want to have to label yourself with "I'm a person that claims".
Originally posted by domasio
Reply to post by jimmiec
I think some of the more snobbish posters are forgetting to realise that even though there are both honest and dishonest people claiming benefits, there aren't enough jobs for even a third of the unemployed.
Perhaps if we get rid of robotic work, and have a more manual working world, we wouldn't have as much unemployment. Think about it, instead of a giant machine ploughing fields, have enough people under your employ, so that the fields still get ploughed in a shortish amount of time, and people are being paid. Same goes for manufacturing, retail and lots of other sectors, get rid of technology and allow people to he employed.
Of course, technology is also a good thing, it's faster and is capable of a lot more than humans in a shorter time frame, but until the entire economy can be based on technology for the production of enough food and clean water for humankind, then we should all he guranteed a job so that we don't starve to death, and if that isn't suitable, then yes, those that CAN'T find work should he given help (however, not those that WON'T find work, they should have a better way of making sure people don't scrounge other than handwriting that you've gone online and down the high street).
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Originally posted by allnamestaken
I am a long time lurker on the forums I read almost daily, I just made this account to reply to this absolutely ridiculous thread.
I work for Seetec, we are a Prime Provider and we pilot a scheme called the Back to work scheme or in other words we are one of the Prime Provider Work Programmes.
When you get referred from the Job centre to a Work programme you either get transferred to Pap-worth or to us at Seetec. Pap-worth is another provider who do the same as we do but in a smaller capacity. There is different criteria for being referred for under 21's claiming for more then 6 to 8 months you get referred after that period, Criminals get instant referral and in some cases so do the Homeless.
You yourself kindly put it you are homeless your situation for being sanctioned is clearly due to ignoring what you was mandated to do as part of your agreement. When you come to the work programme we only get you in once a month for a mandated Work programme review. We then will request you to come in once or twice per month for mandated job searches. This is ALL paid for if it requires travel costs, if you were to get interviews or needed clothes for interviews and or materials for jobs we pay for this too.
We do not forcefully make people work for nothing, if you found yourself doing "voluntary work" via the job centre for a "work programme" it was not through the back to work programme scheme (Seetec/Papworth) and you was wrongfully put forward to something you clearly did not know the full extent of. However from what I read from your post you just sound like you really clearly exaggerating.
I suggest instead of coming onto Abovetopsecret to slander the mouth that feeds you that you fix your situation.
The safety net is there to help people, the sanctions come strong and hard for the people who abuse our system.
If you have been sanctioned at any time in the previous 52 weeks then if you get sanctioned again when you rapid reclaim then you are vulnerable to being sanctioned at tier two level ie 56 weeks.
And thats my first post.edit on 23-10-2012 by allnamestaken because: Made mistakes.
However if you log on to the jobseekers web site there is plenty of work
£10.45 per hour
10-40 PER WEEK, OVER 7 DAYS, DAYS/EVENINGS/WEEKENDS
Newark, Notts NG22
05 October 2012
No details held
Must be 18+. AMG require community care workers to join our rapid response team, to provide palliative care to clients returning home from hospital within the Newark area. Candidates must be reliable and flexible with a caring nature. Experience is preferred but not essential as training will be provided. Car driver with own vehicle would be preferred. The role will include all aspects of care work including personal care. AMG are an equal opportunities employer. Successful applicants are required to provide an enhanced disclosure. Disclosure expense will be met by applicant. The employer has claimed an exception under the Equality Act 2010.
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