International monitors at US polling spots draw criticism from voter fraud groups

reply to post by vkey08


S&F I wondered if anyone would start a thread on this.

Even though this has been going on for the last ten years, I suspect the majority of Americans are not aware of it.

This is "the thin edge of the wedge" where they get us used to UN presence in the US.

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by vkey08
Uh... really? Both sides have engaged in some sort of voter manipulation over the years, last time I seem to remember the Black Panthers being involved in a row about voting in Pennsylvania. But the bigger question is, is it legal for the United Nations to have a presence in our elections? Personally I think this is a very bad sign of things to come, but I'd like to hear others thoughts...

The US and European election systems are so flawed and politicians in general so corrupt, anything that helps can only be a good thing.

That may be true, but the presence of UN monitors does NOT reassure me at all. The UN is notoriously corrupt.

Originally posted by Ex_CT2
I'm with badgerprints on this. Incrementalism. Getting us used to seeing the UN uniforms.

It's not the small amount of voter fraud that's killing us anyway. It's the corruption of the entire system. It's in the "machine" politics; the selection of candidates by political power elites and the crushing of candidates who reflect the people's will. It's the behind-closed-doors treatment of ballots and vote counting. Who's watching all that?

The entire thing is a farce, and the presence of UN monitors--or lack thereof--means not a damn thing. It's a show that's intended to silence critics of the last election; except that it will end up having the opposite effect because it's a show put on by idiots for idiots....

Conspiracy theorists were warning us 20 years ago not to be surprised to see UN troops in the US.

The ODIHR mission is not the same thing as UN troops, but I think they (the Globalists) are getting us acclimated to a UN presence in the US -- bit by bit. Not good.

It's an assault on US sovereignty.

Originally posted by jibeho

Practically every other nation in the world has stricter regulations regarding voter registration and proper voter identification. For Some reason the US is being held to a different standard... Even Canada requires an I.D. to vote. Why no UN presence there? Ever see voters with permanent inked fingers in foreign lands? That's to ensure that they don't show up to vote twice. It is a free for all in the US and state after state have sought measures to PREVENT fraud only to be shut down time and time again and Obama is helping to shut them down. They were problems in Ohio back in 2008 with same day registration and voting and I expect bigger problems this year.

One of the things that's been bothering me is that people are reporting from other countries (Europe, Australia, & NZ) that according to their news sources, Obama is winning.

Have the Globalists decided that Obama is to win? Is that why Obama was so confident he would win when talking to Medvedev (off mic he thought)?

I don't think the Elites are a monolith. I think the Elites backing Romney are pro-USA.

The Elites backing Obama are NWO Globalists who want a diminished, broken USA.

We are f**k*d as a nation if Obama is re-elected.

reply to post by vkey08


What you fail to see is that it's a very good idea to have outside observers in American elections.

It may lessen the chances of the Romney camp stealing Ohio and the rest of the country.

And don't lie, Romney supporters. You know damn well that he would do something as despicable as this.

Originally posted by VaterOrlaag
reply to post by vkey08

 

What you fail to see is that it's a very good idea to have outside observers in American elections.

It may lessen the chances of the Romney camp stealing Ohio and the rest of the country.

And don't lie, Romney supporters. You know damn well that he would do something as despicable as this.

It's far more likely to have the Chicago thugs from the Obama camp steal votes and suppress Republican votes.

Romney is basically a decent man. Obama is not.

reply to post by AuranVector


Partisan bull# aside, the monitors are a good idea.

So stop whining.

reply to post by AuranVector


It's not like the alternative is much better.

This country is slipping with each passing day and it's not simply a matter of choosing a different person.

Originally posted by VaterOrlaag
reply to post by vkey08

 

What you fail to see is that it's a very good idea to have outside observers in American elections.

It may lessen the chances of the Romney camp stealing Ohio and the rest of the country.

And don't lie, Romney supporters. You know damn well that he would do something as despicable as this.

No it is NOT a good idea.. Reason:


Fine we can see how the general public votes, but what everyone and I've said this before, fails to realize is that it's not purely popular vote that elects a president in this country. The Electors have the real power, we are not a democracy, we never have been, we are a Representative Republic, those electors are the representatives that cast their ballots for the President, now maybe someday we will elect by direct suffrage but until then, the votes of the Electors should be held as sacred and not subject to outside interference, much less from a foreign power or powers..

This is my problem not Obama or Romney.

when the voting is over,
they can say the United Nations was their.
so no fake votes got counted.

this is Just a scam.
to make it look right.
but it is just to help hide the illegal going on.

Yea UN observers watching US elections, very interesting. If it has been going on for ten years then Bush didn't "steal" the elections then did he? The incumbent is the one that needs to be watched for fraud in any election. They are the ones with the entrenched power structure and the threat of losing power is what usually causes fraud. But with the electoral college is the deciding factor in US elections in a fractured way. Some states it's winner takes all for the electoral votes. Very fraud worthy in and of itself.

Better than trusting the TEAParty to do it.

reply to post by jibeho


You hit the nail on the head!

It is unconstituional, we are a sovereign nation......this pandering to the UN must be stopped.

This is just more evidence that the US is heading down the road to becoming another Banana Republic.

Our elections have been a joke for years. Our system is thoroughly corrupted. It was only a matter of time someone called for something like this.

Its a shame these guys weren't around during the Republican primaries. Then they would have seen what REAL fraud and corruption is all about.

You guys shouldnt be uneasy about the presence of the UN but the fact that them being there says more about your illusion of democracy than about the UN itself.... Your country is #ed, you just dont realise it.

Originally posted by ollncasino

The US and European election systems are so flawed and politicians in general so corrupt, anything that helps can only be a good thing.

This doesn't help at all, they are only looking at "conservative groups"... The UN can make up anything they want, or exagerate in order to get their messiah "Obama" elected again as President...

This is a clear sign that Obama is working for the elites, contrary to what the left keep claiming...

All the whinging/whining about foreign observers at our polling places? Oh, dear... Oh, my...

What do you suppose brought this about? Hmmm?

Could it possibly be...oh, I don't know, our own stupidity? Our own lack of involvement in our own damned process? Maybe? Possibly?

Went to a city council meeting/round table meeting last night. Discussing plans for the towns future plans. Fairly important stuff you'd think, right? Out of a population of twenty five thousand plus that live within the city limits, want to know how many actually showed up? Four. Four people. There were actually more city council members present than the audience/participants. Yeah, it was a Sunday night, but four? Really?

How sickening is that? Pitiful. Contemptible, even.

That's a prime example of what's wrong with this country. Lack of civic involvement, an appalling apathy that shows no signs of lifting...

...and we have the gall to fuss about "corruption"? What has given the political critters any indication that we give a flying whatever? ...that we actually give a damn?

The fact that there are foreign monitors here is merely the result of our own "can't be bothered". We're to blame, not the idiots we put in office. We put 'em there, we don't supervise, so someone has to...

Might as well be a corrupt UN doing it. Because it's become all too obvious that too many of us can't be bothered.

Correct me if I'm wrong but haven't we (meaning the US) supported election monitors in many other sovereign nations? I think I remember us supporting it in the last Russian elections.
So when we do it to others it's A-ok! but if it's done to us it's one step away from UN soldiers??? Lame hypocritical fear mongering.

reply to post by RottenBeauty


Many of us don't support them either.

It's a countries own business how they handle their elections. If they don't care enough to make sure the elections are on the up and up? They get what they damned well deserve, don't they?

Here. Russia. Where ever.

Originally posted by badgerprints
It's pretty sad when we have military all over the world and spend trillions on the rest of the planet but the UN is monitoring our elections.

Just another small step in the effort to eventually subjugate US citizens to UN rule.

It couldn't be that the republicans are cheating like they normally do?



If there is no cheating there will be nothing to report or document.

You want to reserve the right to cheat so you can get your desired outcome