Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by SonoftheSun
Eh.. I think he would have been sighted and outed by now, BUT why I commented, you said he took showers not baths. That may be (though I would guess
he took baths from time to time as most people do), but it's also common for people to move overdosing users into bathtubs to try to wake them up
with the water.
I encourage you to dream if that's what you want to believe, but I think most likely he is dead. He was on a rough track, and heroin is a very hard
drug to get off of. No matter how well he might have been going to Paris, if he had a girlfriend that used and he used the likelihood of falling back
to it (if he ever quit, which I doubt) is very high.
Have to agree with you here. Unfortunately I've been in this same position. And of about the dozen or so "running buddies ,guys and girls I had
grown up with", about 8 of them are all dead from OD'ing all before their 30's. Most died in their mid to late 20's.
Also the fact that he was clean for some time in Paris makes the possibility of him OD'ing extremely high. This is how many of the people I ran with
died. There are just out of jail, or rehab, clean for 3 or 6 months or a year, and slip up once and this is the most dangerous, because you believe
you have the same tolerance you had and you don't. You go out a slip up once, and do the same amount you used to, and if the stuff is very good, you
don't have the tolerance. Snorting one bag will take you out.
Add a partner into the equation and it's Extremely hard if not Impossible for two addicts to get clean together and stay together It's hard enough
to do it alone. One will continue to bring the other down. I find it highly unlikely an ex-addict could go into those types of scenes and cop drugs
for his girl and not end up using himself. Again I've been there, and for me it was impossible to do more than a handful of times. The temptation is
just too great. But there's always exceptions, I'm just saying, it's highly unlikely.
Placing an overdosed person in a bath-tub is very common as well. Again from my experience also from many stories I've heard in places I've been.
Usually people will put the body in the tub to shower cold water on them to try and wake them up. Not effective. If someone is OD'ing on heroin, you
need to call 911 then start performing CPR. Many times a person you die from resperatory failure they OD from heroin. I've saved lives of people who
were ODing on H, before just by doing CPR. People who's skin were blue and lips were black.
Luckily I'm a survivor, although it cost me alot. nearly my life, I'm in my mid 30's now and have not used or drank in 12 years.
As far as the picture of Morrisons grave, and "he wouldn't fit in there". Look at the graves to the right and left of his, one is even smaller,
other same size. The body, isn't just in the area where the flowers are placed. The headstone is actually on the bodies head. Hence the name. So the
area with the flowers are placed is from about the mid chest down, while the headstone covers the upper chest and hear area of the body inside the
I like the Doors music. Jim was a great writer, and great vocalist, and performer. But not really a musician. The band, especially the keyboardist was
where the real music was coming from. I believe EVERY cult icon Musician that has died before of unnartural cause before the age of 50 is still
considered to be alive, fans are hard-core. The list is rediculous. Elvis, Cobain, Morrison, Tupac, Michael Jackson, ect, ect.
I also have a hard time believing a doped up Mrs'.Morrison wouldn't have blabbed about Jim's secret in some heroin induced nod on dozens of
occassions during the years she lived and used after she supposedly helped faked Jims death. But not a peep. Hard to believe. We have to believe she
is a terrible person sending Jim to buy her junk, but also believe she can keep a secret like that. It's asking alot.
Sure anything is possible, and the OP was laid out very nicely, S+F for you Sir. But imho, Jim is no longer with us. But I can't say for certain
of course, no one can.