reply to post by GogoVicMorrow
They were told to stop enrichment, there is no proof they have ever enriched beyond 20 percent which has non nuclear uses.
How far they have enriched it is irrelevant. The Security Council order was to halt all enrichment
. They disobeyed that order.
The irony in this is that the Security Council wasn't forbidding Iran from enriching their own uranium. They were merely asking them to stop it, until
they could figure out clearly what were the objectives of the program.
It was Iran who decided and contributed mostly to this ongoing situation of a nuclear standoff
Also Russia, who actually helps with their facilities says they aren't making weapons.
Russia isn't helping Iran out of good will and friendship. They are helping Iran as much as any other IAEA member. And the Russian help you mention,
actually comes through
the IAEA, since all nuclear technology and materials transactions are regulated by the IAEA itself.
And a lot of organizations are saying that Iran isn't making nuclear weapons. Including western.
Russia themselves have said Iran isn't trying to build a nuke. Hell even Israel has said at times that Iran isn't trying to build a
Israel (Mossad) and the US (CIA) have stated Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapon, and quite possibly, isn't doing any active research that would give
them the ability to build a nuclear weapon.
However, like I stated multiple times, Iran needs to obey the commitments agreed in the NPT and IAEA treaties. If we make an exception for Iran, we
will have to make an exception to all countries, and then the NPT and the IAEA become irrelevant.
I read about it too, but I don't only read biased sources. If you honestly read unbiased sources you would not be so certain.
Which sources are you referring to?
You have to see that this is no different then what got us into Iraq.
Actually, it is.
In the Iraq war of 2003, the U.S. had a primordial interest going there, even if that interest was manipulated by the government and is now known to
be false, according to a CIA report released in 2005.
With Iran, the U.S. has a secondary interest - or obligation - that only connects them to the problem because of Israel's concerns.
Israel was able to deal with similar issues in the past, on their own. Syria had nuclear facilities that were disabled by Israeli air-strikes, and the
world didn't end from that, and a WW3 didn't start because of it. The U.S. is involved now because Israel is asking us to be involved.
Very different scenarios, in my opinion.
What would EVER make you think that Iran is going to attack anyone.
Like I've showed previously in this thread, Iran is accomplice in some Middle East conflicts, and has been a part of the conflicts for decades. I
don't understand why people label Iran as innocent when we constantly hear people complain about how nasty the US foreign policy is because of all the
If those proxy wars and operations are so important to paint the US and Israel as terrorists
, why don't people take seriously the involvement
When a country has the bravery to attack and provoke another country, I might disagree with the conflict or the causes, but at least there is a degree
of transparency in those actions. Iran, however, masks their true intentions with proxy groups. That, I cannot trust.
I don't know
You sincerely think they would get a nuke and then hand over hundreds of millions of dollars of effort and decades of work to some terrorist
group that could use it against them?
. That's why I don't want anyone to take the risk of finding out the hard way
I really just don't see a justifiable threat and I am not the only one it seems that most intelligent politicians agree. The only ones that
seem to want to go after Iran are the neocons with Israeli ties/interests.
I see a plausible threat. But that is not the same as giving my agreement to an attack, or full-scale war.
I prefer to deal with all this in a negotiations table, and that's why I constantly urge people to support the diplomatic option, and educate
them-selfs on the nature and objectives of the IAEA and the purpose of the NPT.
The objectives of both organizations are based on nuclear energy and security from nuclear weapons for the whole world. Iran should embrace it and
be a part of it, instead of constantly making a joke of the organizations who have the credibility to label them as a safe nuclear
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