reply to post by GogoVicMorrow
I hate sounding like I am defending what amounts to another run of the mill loony mideast government, but I don't see how they can be said to
be responsible for this position.
They have been warned and advised, since 2003, to halt their enrichment program. Not their nuclear program. They refused to do so, and went even
further, building bunkers and going underground to protect those facilities.
The countries who have advised Iran to halt the enrichment program included Russia and China, like I previously stated.
Are you one of those people that hasn't realized this is 2003 all over again?
I'm one of those people who actually reads about the stuff their post, and doesn't give an opinion until a strong knowledge is built.
Funny that you mention 2003. Not only was when several countries advised Iran to halt all enrichment programs, but it was also when they said they
would stop their weapons
(the link to this source seems to cause some weird effects on this forum, so if you want the full article, send me a private message and I'll
Iran halted work toward a nuclear weapon under international scrutiny in 2003 and is unlikely to be able to produce enough enriched uranium for a
bomb until 2010 to 2015, a U.S. intelligence report says.
Like you implied, that was the same year the U.S. went full force against Iraq. Since I don't trust Iran, nor their word, I find it curious that was
the same year they went underground
with their facilities.
I honestly don't think we have any reason to believe they are making nukes. I mean.. they have had nuclear facilities for 40 years!
That's why they should be more responsible and understand why they need to disclose all the information that the IAEA requires from them to consider
Iran a safe nuclear state. Their lack of obedience is the reason why there is suspicion around their program.
Israel started pumping out nukes the second they could, back in the 60's. Iran is apparently perpetually 6 months from a nuke.
Israel isn't part of the NPT, and is a observation member of the IAEA.
Iran is a full member of both, and because of that, they have responsibilities.
If you aren't having WMDeja Vu (I am claiming copyright on the wmdeja vu t shirts btw) I don't understand why not.
I don't have deja vu's with politics because I actually understand them. I know what is happening now, and I know what was happening in 2003 or
The evidence is there for everyone to investigate on their own.
First it was "there are weapons" so we invade and take down the a government and decimate a country, now it's "there will be A WMD" and people
are just going to forget that this has happened once before already?
Peter and the Wolf.
It's a very ignorant statement to say that Iraq wasn't a possible WMD threat. For those who didn't care at all for the World prior to 9/11, it seems
that Iraq was all about rainbows and sunshine.
Why don't people research a little bit and find out about these things:
The Anful Campaign was a devastating military campaign targeting the Kurdish ethnic group in Northern Iraq who formed a loose alliance with Iran
during their war with Iraq hoping to obtain an autonomous state should Iran prevail. Ali Hassan al-Majid or "chemical ali", as he has become known,
was the Iraqi leader in charge of the chemical attacks on the Kurds.
On March 9, 1988, Iraq dropped mustard and hydrogen cyanide bombs on the town of Halbja killing between 3,200 and 5,000 Kurds and injuring 10,000
more. The Iraqis also dropped Sarin on the village of Birjinni.
Not only did Iraq had an history of using chemical weapons, but prior to the US war on Iraq, they had threatened to use those weapons both against the
West and Israel.
If you don't want someone bashing your door looking for WMD's, don't use them and don't threat to use them.
What happened with Iraq was an amateur intelligence mistake, but the credibility of the threat was there. People just forgot about it because youtube
videos who piss on the US governments are cool.
I'm not an apologist of an attack on Iran, but I do believe that they need to assume their responsibilities. The same responsibility they agreed to
when they became members of both the NPT and IAEA. That's the only way of everyone being sure and safe about their true intentions.
17-9-2012 by GarrusVasNormandy because: Bad link