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Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
reply to post by camaro68ss
Would someone else have done better, with 'austerity instead fo grwoth', 'trickle down economics'. 'privatise profits but socialize debts' and 'tax the middle classes and poor instead of rich so that the rich can create bubbles in the casino stock market and property' policies?
Spain had tried that and saw what happened to them? growing High unemployement, high debts, etc.
I am sure Spaniards would prefer to work and live in USA today than Spain, so too would many other countries with new entrants in the labour market eye USA enviously with what the administration had fought so hard, and could have better figures if congress had not been hell bent on party loyalty instead of national loyalty.
Originally posted by thepresident
Originally posted by crawdad1914
How many centuries of continued "expanding" will it take to pay off a 16 trillion dollar debt?
So far this "expanding economy" has cost us a few Trillion in added debt.
I dont buy into this fluff, no matter who is serving it up to me.edit on 6-9-2012 by crawdad1914 because: clarify
So you don't think America is adding new jobs?
Or are you protesting that this is positive information?
Originally posted by CoherentlyConfusedYes, new jobs get created (even if they're mostly low paying service jobs) and may even show some positive growth but if the debt keeps growing higher and higher, faster and faster, how exactly is our economy expanding?
Originally posted by camaro68ss
plus government doesnt create jobs. only the privet sector does.edit on 6-9-2012 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by MrWendal
Originally posted by thepresident
Originally posted by crawdad1914
How many centuries of continued "expanding" will it take to pay off a 16 trillion dollar debt?
So far this "expanding economy" has cost us a few Trillion in added debt.
I dont buy into this fluff, no matter who is serving it up to me.edit on 6-9-2012 by crawdad1914 because: clarify
So you don't think America is adding new jobs?
Or are you protesting that this is positive information?
Let me try to put this into simpler terms....
Let's say I am working one job that pays me $2000.00 per month. My spending to maintain my lifestyle cost me $4000.00 per month and I am accumulating debt.
So my response to this accumulating debt is to go out and pick up 2 more part time jobs which will bring me to a total of $3500.00 per month in income. Now that I am making more money with these part time jobs, instead of paying down my debt, I start spending more and I increase my spending to $6000.00 per month.
Is this a positive thing or does this make me completely stupid?
So you see, it would not matter if under Obama's watch 1 million jobs were created this month. If the spending continues to increase, we are not fixing this economy. We are still accumulating debt.
Originally posted by olaru12
Originally posted by camaro68ss
plus government doesnt create jobs. only the privet sector does.edit on 6-9-2012 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)
So you don't consider the military Government jobs.
It's hard to give you any credibility when you over look such available data.
us-military-branches.findthedata.org...
Originally posted by thepresident
Yes, Cincinnati has a population of 296,000 people
The economy gain 200,000 jobs
Originally posted by MrWendal
Originally posted by thepresident
Yes, Cincinnati has a population of 296,000 people
The economy gain 200,000 jobs
I LOVE this quote. This is a PERFECT example of misrepresenting the numbers to make your point.
So let's look at the reality of this number and what it means to YOU as an individual who would be living in Cincinnati Ohio.
296,000 people is not a lie, but it is a misrepresentation. In 2008 the population of Cincinnati was roughly 340,000. So in the last 3 years you have roughly 40,000 people leaving the city.
The 296,000 people is the population that live within the City limits. That does not represent the surrounding area, and people in the suburbs need jobs too. Where do you think they work? Usually in the City. This would inflate the population within City Limits during the working hours.
So taking that into account, to get an accurate idea of what the true population is, you would need the population of the Cincinnati Metro area which according to the 2011 Census was 2,138,038. The 27th most populated Metro area in the United States
So does 200,000 jobs employ 2/3 thirds of Cincinnati? No. More like under 10%
Originally posted by camaro68ss
you need 350,000 new jobs every month to keep up with population growth. The DNC likes to say 4.5 million jobs have been created since obama took office. But 6.5 million americans have entered the job market. Thats a net loss of 2 million jobs.
plus government doesnt create jobs. only the privet sector does.edit on 6-9-2012 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Americanist
Originally posted by camaro68ss
you need 350,000 new jobs every month to keep up with population growth. The DNC likes to say 4.5 million jobs have been created since obama took office. But 6.5 million americans have entered the job market. Thats a net loss of 2 million jobs.
plus government doesnt create jobs. only the privet sector does.edit on 6-9-2012 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)
People debate anything these days... Especially when truth is only perception for most.
Republicans
Richard Nixon: Increase of 7.1 million jobs
Gerald Ford: Increase of 1.3 million jobs
Ronald Reagan: Increase of 14.7 million jobs
George H.W. Bush: Increase of 1.5 million jobs
George W. Bush: Decline of 646,000 jobs
Total: Increase of 23.9 million jobs under Republican presidents
Democrats
John F. Kennedy: Increase of 2.7 million jobs
Lyndon B. Johnson: Increase of 9.5 million jobs
Jimmy Carter: Increase of 9.0 million jobs
Bill Clinton: Increase of 20.8 million jobs
Barack Obama: Increase of 332,000 jobs
Total: Increase of 42.3 million jobs.
Nearly two-fold.
Originally posted by ldyserenity
LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES......
Second Line....one trillionth BS LIE!!!