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posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by thepresident

Originally posted by camaro68ss
you need 350,000 new jobs every month to keep up with population growth. The DNC likes to say 4.5 million jobs have been created since obama took office. But 6.5 million americans have entered the job market. Thats a net loss of 2 million jobs.


plus government doesnt create jobs. only the privet sector does.
edit on 6-9-2012 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)


So are you bashing the private sector?

200,000 jobs gained is 200,000 jobs gained

I am not sure why you guys hate Obama more than you love America


nope, not bashing the private sector. We are in permanent decline so its not even worth my time to explain. If you want to know whats going to happen, read up on what happend to ROME.
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posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by camaro68ss

Originally posted by thepresident

Originally posted by camaro68ss
you need 350,000 new jobs every month to keep up with population growth. The DNC likes to say 4.5 million jobs have been created since obama took office. But 6.5 million americans have entered the job market. Thats a net loss of 2 million jobs.


plus government doesnt create jobs. only the privet sector does.
edit on 6-9-2012 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)


So are you bashing the private sector?

200,000 jobs gained is 200,000 jobs gained

I am not sure why you guys hate Obama more than you love America


nope, not bashing the private sector. We are in permanent decline so its not even worth my time. If you want to know whats going to happen, read up on what happend to ROME.


We are not in a decline.

Adding 200,000 jobs is not decline

If you are angry because this is contrary to your political upbringing
, it is not the data's fault.

America is coming back, isn't that cool?



posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by thepresident

Originally posted by camaro68ss

Originally posted by thepresident

Originally posted by camaro68ss
you need 350,000 new jobs every month to keep up with population growth. The DNC likes to say 4.5 million jobs have been created since obama took office. But 6.5 million americans have entered the job market. Thats a net loss of 2 million jobs.


plus government doesnt create jobs. only the privet sector does.
edit on 6-9-2012 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)


So are you bashing the private sector?

200,000 jobs gained is 200,000 jobs gained

I am not sure why you guys hate Obama more than you love America


nope, not bashing the private sector. We are in permanent decline so its not even worth my time. If you want to know whats going to happen, read up on what happend to ROME.


We are not in a decline.

Adding 200,000 jobs is not decline

If you are angry because this is contrary to your political upbringing
, it is not the data's fault.

America is coming back, isn't that cool?


hahaha, ok buddy. you keep dreaming. You do know 200,000 jobs account for .00065% of the population dont you?

Or if you just want to count the workforce its .00195% but whos counting.
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posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by thepresident

Originally posted by crawdad1914
How many centuries of continued "expanding" will it take to pay off a 16 trillion dollar debt?
So far this "expanding economy" has cost us a few Trillion in added debt.

I dont buy into this fluff, no matter who is serving it up to me.
edit on 6-9-2012 by crawdad1914 because: clarify


So you don't think America is adding new jobs?

Or are you protesting that this is positive information?


How many jobs have been lost? What is the sum gained after factoring in jobs lost? What sector are these jobs in? Are they jobs that pay above the poverty level? What are the true unemployment numbers? How many jobs will need to be gained to employ the ten percent or more of our population currently out of work?
No protest at all, I just dont see the information as being of any substance when viewed in the context of our entire fiscal situation. Ds and Rs will say anything to buy a vote.



posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by camaro68ss

That is enough jobs to employ 2/3 of Cincinnati Ohio -

You keep being negative, when you grow up, hopefully you will re examine your politics
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posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by thepresident

Originally posted by loam
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That isn't exactly what your source says, now is it?




ADP has missed big before, so its data shouldn’t be taken as rock solid,





but if its estimate is largely confirmed by the Bureau of Labor Statistics on Friday


You miss the rest of the sentence


So you can come here and bash the private sector and Obama tomorrow, if they are wrong.


edit on 6-9-2012 by thepresident because: (no reason given)


Fixed...

Not sure if troll or just low reading comprehension...

Nah, most people won't be bashing anything as we know it's inevitable that the economy falters considering the current reality of the debt based monetary system and far too much economically ignorant regulation.
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posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by Elzon1

Originally posted by thepresident

Originally posted by loam
reply to post by thepresident
 


That isn't exactly what your source says, now is it?




ADP has missed big before, so its data shouldn’t be taken as rock solid,





but if its estimate is largely confirmed by the Bureau of Labor Statistics on Friday


You miss the rest of the sentence


So you can come here and bash the private sector and Obama tomorrow, if they are wrong.


edit on 6-9-2012 by thepresident because: (no reason given)


Fixed...

Not sure if troll or just low reading comprehension...

Nah, most people won't be bashing anything as we know it's inevitable that the economy falters considering the current reality of the debt based monetary system and far too much economically ignorant regulation.
edit on 6-9-2012 by Elzon1 because: (no reason given)


So then, come back tomorrow and sock it to me, if is 199,999 jobs made


The economy is picking up, I am sorry if you are so hell bent on total destruction.



posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by crawdad1914

Originally posted by thepresident

Originally posted by crawdad1914
How many centuries of continued "expanding" will it take to pay off a 16 trillion dollar debt?
So far this "expanding economy" has cost us a few Trillion in added debt.

I dont buy into this fluff, no matter who is serving it up to me.
edit on 6-9-2012 by crawdad1914 because: clarify


So you don't think America is adding new jobs?

Or are you protesting that this is positive information?


How many jobs have been lost? What is the sum gained after factoring in jobs lost? What sector are these jobs in? Are they jobs that pay above the poverty level? What are the true unemployment numbers? How many jobs will need to be gained to employ the ten percent or more of our population currently out of work?
No protest at all, I just dont see the information as being of any substance when viewed in the context of our entire fiscal situation. Ds and Rs will say anything to buy a vote.


This is not the D's and R's

This is a PRIVATE accounting firm that releases these numbers.

If this rate continued in four years that would be 4,800,000 new jobs.

I don't know guys, I was also taught to look on the brighter side of things.

If this had been 1 month of job growth I would not have brought it up.
But this economy has been growing steadily for nearly 2 and half years.

You guys and your negative attitude also has an impact on things,
consumer confidence is a key to consumer spending. I am NOT
trying to squash confidence, are you???
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posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 01:13 PM
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reply to post by thepresident
 



Originally posted by thepresident



but if its estimate is largely confirmed by the Bureau of Labor Statistics on Friday


You miss the rest of the sentence



I didn't miss anything, your thread prematurely assumes the estimate as FACT.


Originally posted by thepresident
So you can come here and bash the private sector and Obama tomorrow, if they are wrong.




So holding you accountable for the truth and an accurate representation of the source you quote is bashing Obama and the private sector?


I'll leave you to your cool-aide...





edit on 6-9-2012 by loam because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by thepresident

Originally posted by crawdad1914

Originally posted by thepresident

Originally posted by crawdad1914
How many centuries of continued "expanding" will it take to pay off a 16 trillion dollar debt?
So far this "expanding economy" has cost us a few Trillion in added debt.

I dont buy into this fluff, no matter who is serving it up to me.
edit on 6-9-2012 by crawdad1914 because: clarify


So you don't think America is adding new jobs?

Or are you protesting that this is positive information?


How many jobs have been lost? What is the sum gained after factoring in jobs lost? What sector are these jobs in? Are they jobs that pay above the poverty level? What are the true unemployment numbers? How many jobs will need to be gained to employ the ten percent or more of our population currently out of work?
No protest at all, I just dont see the information as being of any substance when viewed in the context of our entire fiscal situation. Ds and Rs will say anything to buy a vote.


This is not the D's and R's

This is a PRIVATE accounting firm that releases these numbers.

If this rate continued in four years that would be 4,800,000 new jobs.

I don't know guys, I was also taught to look on the brighter side of things.

If this had been 1 month of job growth I would not have brought it up.
But this economy has been growing steadily for nearly 2 and half years.


Well, I am glad this news makes you happy Sir.



posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 01:15 PM
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Here's some pictures of the expansion.









Obama has not come through on the big promises.

Fail bigtime.



posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by loam
reply to post by thepresident
 



Originally posted by thepresident



but if its estimate is largely confirmed by the Bureau of Labor Statistics on Friday


You miss the rest of the sentence



I didn't miss anything, your thread prematurely assumes the estimate as FACT.


Originally posted by thepresident
So you can come here and bash the private sector and Obama tomorrow, if they are wrong.




So holding you accountable for the truth and an accurate representation of the source you quote is bashing Obama and the private sector?


I'll leave you to your cool-aide...






It is pretty clear to see what you are doing, I am not stupid.

If this information is false, you can come back tomorrow and have field day.

I will leave you to you obsession. See you tomorrow?



posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 01:16 PM
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You do realise Obama spent over a 1.3 trillion dollars in 2011 to gain those 200,000 jobs??

He spent nearly as much in one year as the entire debt of the UK

Give your country it's last chance and vote in ron paul.
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posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by xuenchen


America created 200,000 new jobs this month.

I am sorry that you want America to fail so badly



posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by dmsuse
You do realise Obama spent over a 1.3 trillion dollars in 2011 to gain those 200,000 jobs??

He spent nearly as much in one year as the entire debt of the UK

Give your country it's last chance and vote in ron paul.
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The 200,000 jobs are for one month

Hey people could have voted for Ron Paul if the Republicans didn't cheat him out of his nomination.



posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 01:20 PM
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It depends on the kinds of jobs. Someone who worked at a steady, good paying job with benefits for so many years suddenly finding him or herself having to work behind a register at Wal-Mart or flip burgers at some fast food joint isn't going to be sharing your enthusiasm.

As for the debt goes...that's not going away anytime soon. It can't. No one seems to get thatIt's the system, not the president. Until they acknowledge the true problem and fix it, everything else is just fluffy feel-good talk with "solutions" that are no more effective than sticking a bandaid over a gaping stab wound.

So .... a runaway debt that no one wants to fix and 200,000 new people flipping burgers? I'd say Obama and all the other lackies up there can do better than that. I know they can. I don't really think they want to.



posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by crawdad1914

Originally posted by thepresident

Originally posted by crawdad1914

Originally posted by thepresident

Originally posted by crawdad1914
How many centuries of continued "expanding" will it take to pay off a 16 trillion dollar debt?
So far this "expanding economy" has cost us a few Trillion in added debt.

I dont buy into this fluff, no matter who is serving it up to me.
edit on 6-9-2012 by crawdad1914 because: clarify


So you don't think America is adding new jobs?

Or are you protesting that this is positive information?


How many jobs have been lost? What is the sum gained after factoring in jobs lost? What sector are these jobs in? Are they jobs that pay above the poverty level? What are the true unemployment numbers? How many jobs will need to be gained to employ the ten percent or more of our population currently out of work?
No protest at all, I just dont see the information as being of any substance when viewed in the context of our entire fiscal situation. Ds and Rs will say anything to buy a vote.


This is not the D's and R's

This is a PRIVATE accounting firm that releases these numbers.

If this rate continued in four years that would be 4,800,000 new jobs.

I don't know guys, I was also taught to look on the brighter side of things.

If this had been 1 month of job growth I would not have brought it up.
But this economy has been growing steadily for nearly 2 and half years.


Well, I am glad this news makes you happy Sir.


Thanks sir, I hope you and yours see brighter days ahead of you.



posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 01:21 PM
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damned the propaganda!

let's try not to deal with "statistics" here, and keep it real, shall we??

so the economy collapsed...if you can't see that..


alright and we had damage-control idiots out there plugging up the holes in an entirely unsustainable monstrosity


okay so now we've got fools using state reported statistics to try and justify their beliefs.

sad, sad, sad


I'll give you this, there may have been a few jobs created here or there, but how many were destroyed?

how many people are permanently unemployed, or are now underemployed, and/or have lost benefits + accepted less wages??

hey, there's something else your one-sided equation didn't plug in: how many people have been added to the workforce??

i don't care what number you spout out, we've collapsed, and none of these fools are offering solutions.

game over



posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by thepresident
It is pretty clear to see what you are doing, I am not stupid.


Really?

What am I doing?



Originally posted by thepresident
If this information is false, you can come back tomorrow and have field day.

I will leave you to you obsession. See you tomorrow?


I don't think you get it...

I, too, am eagerly awaiting the new jobs report...and incidentally my motivation has little to do with Obama. I have professional interest in the numbers.

Your thread presented as fact job growth numbers that are nothing more than an estimate from a private payroll company that has a track record of being really wrong on similar estimates and NOT from the actual JOBS report everyone is waiting for.

What is FALSE is how you positioned ADP's report in this thread.



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posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by CoherentlyConfused
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It depends on the kinds of jobs. Someone who worked at a steady, good paying job with benefits for so many years suddenly finding him or herself having to work behind a register at Wal-Mart or flip burgers at some fast food joint isn't going to be sharing your enthusiasm.

As for the debt goes...that's not going away anytime soon. It can't. No one seems to get thatIt's the system, not the president. Until they acknowledge the true problem and fix it, everything else is just fluffy feel-good talk with "solutions" that are no more effective than sticking a bandaid over a gaping stab wound.

So .... a runaway debt that no one wants to fix and 200,000 new people flipping burgers? I'd say Obama and all the other lackies up there can do better than that. I know they can. I don't really think they want to.


What service jobs indicate is that new or established businesses are expanding.

Typically managerial, accounting and clerical jobs follow to manage the new employees.

Is this the case now?


I hope so




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