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Originally posted by camaro68ss
Originally posted by olaru12
Originally posted by camaro68ss
plus government doesnt create jobs. only the privet sector does.edit on 6-9-2012 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)
So you don't consider the military Government jobs.
It's hard to give you any credibility when you over look such available data.
us-military-branches.findthedata.org...
No, government doesn't create jobs. Government dosent create products, goverment dosent create goods. It doesn't create revenue without taking from others. Military is a service to your country, not a job. Name one government job that doesn't take money from the people to create a job?edit on 6-9-2012 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by thepresident
Originally posted by sicksonezer0
Well if you say so.
I still think he's a horrible leader and those numbers are a lot of fluff.
I am not sure how you think it is bad that the economy is starting rev up again.
I you sure your perceptions are not tainted by information that you expose yourself to?
I did not make up this data, it is real, which is why I do not see the negative that
you perceive.
You conflating the Private Economy with the government's debt.
Originally posted by ldyserenity
Originally posted by thepresident
Originally posted by sicksonezer0
Well if you say so.
I still think he's a horrible leader and those numbers are a lot of fluff.
I am not sure how you think it is bad that the economy is starting rev up again.
I you sure your perceptions are not tainted by information that you expose yourself to?
I did not make up this data, it is real, which is why I do not see the negative that
you perceive.
No....But the media did.
No this is not accurate information.
and NO you cannot prove it, the media cannot prove it and if you buy this crap, well, it IS YOU, Sir or Ma'am who are deluded.
Originally posted by thepresident
Originally posted by Americanist
Originally posted by camaro68ss
you need 350,000 new jobs every month to keep up with population growth. The DNC likes to say 4.5 million jobs have been created since obama took office. But 6.5 million americans have entered the job market. Thats a net loss of 2 million jobs.
plus government doesnt create jobs. only the privet sector does.edit on 6-9-2012 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)
People debate anything these days... Especially when truth is only perception for most.
Republicans
Richard Nixon: Increase of 7.1 million jobs
Gerald Ford: Increase of 1.3 million jobs
Ronald Reagan: Increase of 14.7 million jobs
George H.W. Bush: Increase of 1.5 million jobs
George W. Bush: Decline of 646,000 jobs
Total: Increase of 23.9 million jobs under Republican presidents
Democrats
John F. Kennedy: Increase of 2.7 million jobs
Lyndon B. Johnson: Increase of 9.5 million jobs
Jimmy Carter: Increase of 9.0 million jobs
Bill Clinton: Increase of 20.8 million jobs
Barack Obama: Increase of 332,000 jobs
Total: Increase of 42.3 million jobs.
Nearly two-fold.
Are you happy America has gained 200,000 jobs this last month?
If anyone reads this thread it sound like that is BAD news for most
who have participated.
Is this because they cannot accept reality or is it because they hate America
and love more people on welfare?
Originally posted by seeker1963
reply to post by thepresident
You conflating the Private Economy with the government's debt.
Are you freaking serious????? Who pays the government??? WE DO!!! So therefore the more debt the corrupt government runs up, it is us and our children and grandchildren who have to suffer for it!!!!!
I take it you don't have children or grandchildren??? If you do, you ought to be ashamed of yourself!!!
The more people who are working, the less people are using FOOD STAMPS
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by thepresident
What "new" business? Are you suggesting these are all start-up companies? I'm betting they are just McDonald's and such. Companies may be re-hiring after the big let down in 08, but I doubt there are many start-ups.
I remember driving down a major street in my area and seeing how many well-established businesses were boarded up, how many just packed up and left. It was really creepy. It's not a whole lot better yet.
Originally posted by seeker1963
reply to post by thepresident
The more people who are working, the less people are using FOOD STAMPS
You just beat yourself in your own arguement!!!!!
Currently.............YES! Currently, we have a record number of people on foodstamps in the U.S.!!!!!
So put down your pom poms and come back down to planet earth...................
John Williams, author of the book "Shadow Government Statistics," estimates that as of January, 2012 the real unemployment rate after adding in long term discouraged workers who are no longer seeking employment to the Bureau of Labor Statistics U6 number leaves us with a number of 22.5%.
By comparison the depression era unemployment rate peaked at 24.7% in 1933. If we are to accept William's number and measure depression by unemployment numbers only, we are currently in a depression now
seekingalpha.com...
U.S. factories have been a key source of jobs and growth since the recession ended in June 2009. But the sector has shown signs of weakness in recent months.
The ISM survey showed factories kept hiring in July but at a slower pace. And production dropped sharply to 47.2, the first time it has fallen below 50 since May 2009, when the economy was in recession.
New orders, a sign of future production, also dropped. New export orders increased but remained below 50, contracting for the third straight month.
www.boston.com...
No
That is not logical.
The record could have increase further.
Now, why are you so hell bent on painting this data in a negative light?
Why don't you be honest?
Originally posted by loam
reply to post by burntheships
You're a zealot too???
Originally posted by burntheships
These kind of threads amaze me, is there that much sand out there?
Its got to be getting crowded below the surface!
Originally posted by loam
reply to post by burntheships
You're a zealot too???
Originally posted by thepresident
The more people who are working, the less people are using WELFARE
The more people who are working, the less people are using FOOD STAMPS
According to statistics released this week by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, a record 46.7 million Americans were enrolled in food stamp programs during the month of June. That’s up slightly from May’s 46.5 million mark – and way up from the 32 million people enrolled in food stamp programs when U.S. President Barack Obama took office in January 2009.
The more people who are working, the more REVENUE government receives
Only an abject failure like Obama could make 165,000 sound anything like good news.
You are so blinded by your negativity, you cannot accept something that is
contrary to your negativity.