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Russia And China Join Forces And Prepare For War Against The Falling Apart U.S. Can we win this one

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posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 10:54 PM
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You don't believe there is a war over money and resources on this planet

shall i direct your attention to the ME?the south China sea?
The USA is a welfare state,it cannot even pay the interest it owes to China,Japan and the Uk
or the billions in hush money to the UN
it's using the only thing its got left..its huge military to take over energy sectors of the planet to counter China's coming dominace,taking advantage (for now)that China has no force projection.

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posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by penninja
reply to post by SplitInfinity
 


I had figured that we did but wasn't sure, doesn't seem like out of the reach at all but I had not considered that we could have them equipped on a Raptor.

These are relatively small Non-Nuclear EMP's but putting two inside a F/A-22 Raptor turns them into a very good way to decapitate Command and Control.

An F/A-22 not only is almost Radar Undetectable but it also uses a very Advanced Form of Electromagnetic Manipulation of the Heat Signature coming out of it's engines. It cannot be detected by IR-Sensors. You can google this if you like.

In a First Strike Use...F/A-22's using two Non-Nuclear EMP's stored internally could penetrate Enemy Air Space at WILL. They would drop these EMP's and they would activate at a specific height over target without any knowledge of this attack occurring which would confuse the Enemy to exactly what happened. This confusion...as there is no explosion...would shut down Enemy Command and Control at Multiple Sites so as to render the Enemy unaware they are being attacked as well as completely rendering their communication inoperative permanently.

In the case this occurs in IRAN...this would allow the Secret ongoing Military to Military Talks to succeed as without the ability for Commanders in the Field or Sea to receive orders...the U.S. Military could then send Direct OVERT RADIO BROADCASTS to Iranian Military Ships, Divisions, Military Leadership...and convince them to stand down. This would be in conjunction with Air Drops of Thousands of U.S. Special Forces and Rangers tasked with seizing all Iranian Nuclear Sites. Without Command and Control...Old Guard Leadership would not be able to communicate orders and instructions giving the Iranian Military an.."OUT"...as to why they did not respond. Believe me...NO IRANIAN MILITARY LEADERSHIP wants to respond. Split Infinity



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 11:30 PM
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Originally posted by all2human
reply to post by penninja
 


You don' believe there is a war over money and resources on this planet

shall i direct your attention to the ME?the south China sea?
The USA is a welfare state,it cannot even pay the interest it owes to China,Japan and the Uk
it's using the only thing its got left..its huge military to take over energy sectors of the planet to counter China's coming dominace

edit on 29-8-2012 by all2human because: (no reason given)


Because of a combination of Poor Leadership and plain old GREED....the U.S. has placed itself in a position where we owe a lot of money. But as in my earlier post described...it is not a position that effects our Military Decision Making...nor is it a position that is worse than many others the U.S. has been in Historically. Since we are the Worlds Largest Economy...and since we can now restructure our Military and spend less money yet be much more powerful than we are currently...and we have the ability...with the RIGHT LEADERSHIP...and choosing that Leadership from the President on down is OUR RESPONSIBILITY...we can make the right decisions to put us back on track. Necessity is the Mother of Invention and if even just a few High Tech. Abilities were released for Civilian use...we could turn this around in the Blink of an Eye. Split Infinity



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 11:35 PM
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Ya..now just to get that damn manufacturing base back from China

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posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 11:37 PM
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Churchhill.....not exact quote ..

"America's downfall.......will be America herself.


Are we still badass?

That's the problem...it was never about us being bad ass, it was because we always tried to do the right thing.

Not anymore.
Most Americans cannot define the word humble.

Russia and China knew what we didn't know....false flags, living by our own rules..screw everyone else...murder...

They're probably sick of the Bully...I know I am!



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 11:49 PM
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totally get where your coming from



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 11:57 PM
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Originally posted by ssupp
reply to post by miniatus
 


Well, China outnumbers America with available manpower with more than 6 to 1.
I know I know, wars aren't fought with sticks anymore but it's still a really high number.
America may have more nuclear arms but China has enough to make America a nuclear wasteland either way.

America greatly outnumbers China in aircraft, but China has a lot of AA weaponry so there goes that.




They may have all that man power, but how will they get them here?. They don't have the ships and even if they did, they would never stand a chance of reaching the US mainland. China is not going to launch against the US, it would be suicide. Without sounding like a cheer leader for the US, we do have the strongest military on the planet.



posted on Aug, 30 2012 @ 12:06 AM
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Well ask yourself now who gets or needs that oil most? China

I already posted on this but i'll reiterate

Look at the Map, Syria... Iraq... Iran.... Afghanistan....

War on terror my ass, war to control the pipeline to 1.5 Billion people that want to drive cars, Oil is very expensive to ship by sea, dangerous too, very catastrophe prone

That line leads one place, straight to China and China loaned us the money to do it, let's make no bones about this, you are correct China owns us on Loans and we all know the Us Military is available to the highest bidder.

No one in here is really WRONG just not putting the pieces together to reveal the truth.

China can shut us down, but they don't, America is in massive debt and we are buying all Chinese garbage anyway even though it hurts our economy. China and Russia as many have pointed out have stopped trying to compete with our military, we have shifted our economy to be more in line with theirs. More socialist

Why? because we are in bed behind the scenes that is why...

China has a sever problem with Islam, sure they have an alliance with Pakistan that's for show my friend, and to contain India to a lesser degree

But beyond that Islam is a problem for an Atheist nation, far bigger problem than America will ever be, bigger problem is Oil,

They will grab a drone from Iran when they can heck they spy on us every day to modernize, they will gladly go into the UN and oppose us at face value and on paper, they HAVE to their vassal states require it, they are in the business economically of supplying death and destruction to 3rd world nations these days just like we are.

But you have to be blind to not see that they basically paid for us to do this

America gets a cut off the pipe to China, doesn't matter how it works out we might take such losses economically and physically that we leave defeated (wink wink) and China and Russia come in AFTER all those nations infra structure is toast as "peace keepers (wink wink) but when said and done China has oil security not a worry that some rouge state like Iran will decide to cut the flow or hold them hostage for decades... China is not a nation that will allow the Middle Kingdom to be held hostage by inferiors so to speak

I would place the moment this all went down as the Spy plane incident during the Clinton administration

My guess, that plane being taken was no accident, The Chinese didn't start building ships that look suspiciously like our Aegis class 2 years later because that info was on board some ordinary Spy plane

We gifted them. 9-11 was planned and the game was put into play

One of the biggest Bush screwball statements ever

"We have a powerful secret Ally no one even knows about"

LOL who was that? Columbia? Kenya? who lol? Who's a powerful secret Ally? who keeps giving us money, who's crap do we buy seemingly for no reason?

Let's be realistic... NWO, 5 nations have sat atop the UN security Council for the better part of a century, our diplomats have dinner together every night in NYC, the globe was divide by the cold war ages ago for the sale of arms 20 years or more out of date that pose no real threat to the rest of us anyway

It's a GAME my friend. Maybe didn't start this way, but it's a game Vietnam and Korea taught the arms dealers something, that something was when we start proxy wars the rest of the world rushes in to purchase the toys... these wars are the biggest arms demonstrations in the world and having SIDES is a necessity to keep it going.

Don't believe what you hear at the UN, it's all lies.

Those 5 nations together already rule the entire world, no one is going to actually RISK that position by fighting. If there is a fight it is sort of staged from the start.

Yeah there is a WAR for energy, it's the Five Nations of the UN security council and we can call England and France the EU these days for all intents and purposes VS everybody else.



posted on Aug, 30 2012 @ 12:08 AM
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Originally posted by all2human
reply to post by SplitInfinity
 


Ya..now just to get that damn manufacturing base back from China

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Let's face it...Americans are NOT going to work in a Assembly Line Manual Labor Factory. The U.S. Strength is in it's High Tech. Inventions. We also are the best ship builders in the WORLD yet we do not take advantage of this. We also could easily gain back the Worlds Car Market if GREED did not dictate decision making.

Our TRUMP CARD...GREEN ENERGY GENERATION. And I am not talking about Wind Turbines or Electric Cars that you have to plug in to a Home Outlet that has electricity coming from an OIL or COAL burning plant...but LOW TEMP. FUSION ENERGY GENERATION. Also...despite what anyone has read...the U.S. Military is decades ahead in SOLAR ENERGY. We also have High Tech. Military Low Energy Loss...Super Conductive Capabilities that if installed could use one 50th of the power Generated to Supply the Grid with enough power for everyone. The Grid is CRAP! We loose massive amounts of electricity as it bleeds out everywhere. Also...it KILLS ME to see the United States...Home to the Highest Tech. on Earth...importing electronics from China, Japan...etc.

We need to get our priorities straitened out. The INTERNET...Created by the U.S. Military. Solid State Lasers that will be Non-Nuclear and used on Various Military Army Vehicles. The sheer amount of ENERGY CONSERVATION NEEDED for this to work is beyond belief...but it exists. Use this on a Civilian Level and a whole entire GROUP of Goods and Products will be created. Solar Singles...placed on every home in the North East...self Heating to Melt Snow...capable of generating electricity on a Cloudy Day as they use a Wide Light Spectrum such as UV Light to work. WE NEED these things now! Split Infinity



posted on Aug, 30 2012 @ 12:11 AM
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Number 1 jobs
employment/unemployment is a true indicator of a countries health
millions would take manufacturing..even a sweat shop..it's too late to think about this tomorrow
America needs this NOW,it's going to take a whole lot of hard work to dig your selves out of the hole your in
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posted on Aug, 30 2012 @ 12:15 AM
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WHY?

generational conflicts are common things, in all reality the Chinese crisis while selling to the land of "buy anything for no reason" we call America, a gluttonous consumer frenzy of nation, is that they have stuff rotting on the shelves with a work force their size...

What are "material goods"

This is an information society

Our problem is simple, an over abundance of UNSKILLED, UNEDUCATED LABOR also a GERIATRIC society in progress in which many can not adapt to the new income making potential, the economy gets better when they are gone from old age not before anyway.

The jobs are there... they are just tech, the business opportunities are there just not where Americans of a certain age look so there is unemployment.

When a guy my Dad's age wants to start a business he complains... NO LOANS, RENT TOO HIGH

Love him... but he's a caveman, the money isn't in opening up a shoe store for 300 G it's in opening a shoe website for 3,000.00 which includes computer, domain names, adobe suite and a Chair

Pop just wants his Union back or to be able to afford real estate being used by mega corps... not going to happen, we sold off the factories because no one wants to work for 2.25 an hr to compete in ...honestly human toil for a living

heck robotics could already end China and india if anyone wanted to push the grain, screw manufacturing, the people who want to do it can be helped and aren't efficient, guys in their late 50's who think Leet speak is a language from central Africa don't actually have hope no matter what we do for them.



posted on Aug, 30 2012 @ 12:17 AM
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lol... beat me to it, #$%^&



posted on Aug, 30 2012 @ 12:18 AM
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Originally posted by all2human
reply to post by SplitInfinity
 


Number 1 jobs

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I agree...and who is the Largest Employer in the U.S. that employees over 80% of the U.S. Population?
SMALL BUSINESS!

Neither Party has done S#!% for Small Business. Repair this and we will have JOBS! Split Infinity



posted on Aug, 30 2012 @ 12:22 AM
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Again... no

Not really

Take the line from the Movie the social network. "Harvard students don't believe they should get a job they believe they should create a job"

That is the Entrepreneurial spirit, that's what makes money

This is no different than the shift from Agrarian to Industry was then it was build or die, today it's Nerd up or die...

You have the Internet, to quote another movie Sucker Punch "You Have All the Weapons You Need, Now Fight!"

We don't need jobs, we need to learn that we don't need them, they are weak, they are abusive, they cap your earning potential



posted on Aug, 30 2012 @ 12:23 AM
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You did it again!!!! ROFL



posted on Aug, 30 2012 @ 12:24 AM
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Originally posted by all2human
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Number 1 jobs
employment/unemployment is a true indicator of a countries health
millions would take manufacturing..even a sweat shop..
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I would take my lap top and bounce starbucks to starbucks with no rent and sleep in car and horde money every month before doing that.

i can say that because for 6 months that's EXACTLY what I did



posted on Aug, 30 2012 @ 12:32 AM
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Don't get me wrong Jobs are okay if your in Biotech or Computers but the only Dominos I know that tops 2.5 G a month in the world is in Japan and that's because Gaijin workers wil pay 60 bucks for a pizza



posted on Aug, 30 2012 @ 12:32 AM
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Let's face it...if the Middle East did not have OIL...we could give a S#!% LESS! So a bunch of Religious Fanatics are dictating how the U.S. has to deal with countries and the thing is...WE DON'T EVEN NEED TO USE OIL ANYMORE!

The concept that we do not have alternative sources of energy is the BIGGEST LIE EVER! They can...RIGHT NOW using just standard non-advanced Solar Arrays...build two 50 Mile by 50 Mile Solar Arrays in the Nevada or Arizona Deserts and they will generate over 90% of all electrical demands in the Continental U.S.

Fix the GRID and one of these will be more than enough to power the whole damn country. But...GET THIS...this plan has a court injunction placed on it by this never before heard of ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP that is concerned for the effects placed upon Desert Animals and Vegetation! Funny that NO ONE ever heard of these people before!?

We stop using OIL...the U.S. say's AMF to the Middle East...and we finally break the hold by Big Oil. No one will give a S#!% about what Iran say's or not...we will not need them or who they threaten. Split Infinity



posted on Aug, 30 2012 @ 12:34 AM
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I was going to say something completely inappropriate regarding the types of (foreign) people that WOULD and are willing to working those jobs while you jump from starbucks to starbucks lol,it's true...
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posted on Aug, 30 2012 @ 12:35 AM
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Originally posted by penninja
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You did it again!!!! ROFL

LOL! TOO FUNNY! Split Infinity




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