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Originally posted by starseedflower
reply to post by Jepic
Insanity is to discuss woman's rights with backward-ish fundamentalists backed by cunning politicians that use an emotional topic during pre-election, just to get popularity votes.
Originally posted by Socrato
Not trying to get pregnant = not trying to have sex. Simple.
Sex was made for pregnancy period.
Originally posted by Endorra
Originally posted by Jepic
Hmmm... Okay.
If the woman is raped she has the final decision to what happens with the baby.
If the man is raped he decides what happens with the baby.
If a baby arose fromm casual sex, both parents have a 50/50 say to what happens to the baby.
I want to just say "deal" and be happy we came to an agreement. The only problem is your exception for rape does some damage to your other arguments you have put forward in order to further your pro life position. You may have to rethink your entire stance if you actually believe what you just posted.
This is a tricky topic.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
You are, because you refuse to admit that it is a human.
Unless you deny all basic modern Biology about the life cycle...then you support the killing of a very very young human.
Why can't you admit it?
I think because I am a human I get to advocate for the protection of all humans...no matter how young they are or how "inconvenient" they are to other humans.
Oh...you are talking about abortion...you just said you weren't
So let me get this straight...you only want to discuss that abortion is good...you don't want to hear any counter arguments??? Would you like me to dig the hole for you to stick your head in...or can you do that yourself???
This entire thread is a way to ease your mind...pro abortion threads always are...it's a sleep aide so you can continue to lie to yourself.
Yes...so proud you deny Biology and lie to yourself.
I challenge you...just admit here and now that you support the killing of innocent humans because they are an inconvenience.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by Jepic
Originally posted by Jepic
You know what actually? I want you to see how long you survive if you were missing 8 cells in your skin or intestines and of course without those 8 cells being able to be replaced.
I survive just fine missing whole organs that aren't replaced... I think you need to pick up a science book.
Yup. I am not ready to get pregnant yet but because I know you would not suggest denying me that right in the future, I know you are not suggesting I take out my uterus in the hopes that I can put it back in later.
Originally posted by Socrato
reply to post by Endorra
Rape is a crime. It should never happen. That's a completely different discussion.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
You are, because you refuse to admit that it is a human.
Why can't you admit it?
Yes...so proud you deny Biology and lie to yourself.
I challenge you...just admit here and now that you support the killing of innocent humans because they are an inconvenience.
Originally posted by HamrHeed
Ever heard of a surrogate mother?
By the way, in the near future, with our technology expansion, kids will be grown in test tubes. I'd embrace motherhood if I were inverted
Originally posted by Jepic
And do you realise that without a male's nuts you wouldn't even have a chance at controlling the life of that baby because you wouldn't even be having a baby.
Basically YOU WANT TO CONTROL A BEING THAT HAS MY GENES IN IT!? HEEEELLL NO!
Originally posted by Endorra
Originally posted by Socrato
reply to post by Endorra
Rape is a crime. It should never happen. That's a completely different discussion.
How is that a completely different discussion?
We are talking about women's reproductive rights. Rape is one of the ways a woman can get pregnant. I hate having to tell adults facts like these.
Originally posted by SearchLightsInc
Originally posted by Socrato
Originally posted by SearchLightsInc
You're sick. You sound like you have a god complex.
Sounds like you are talking to yourself. How about we just let men and women figure things out on their own? My wife likes me to have rights over her body. How does that make you feel? Do you want to force her to have to make decisions about her body all on her own?
How about the boys on this board stop being so self-righteous and understand you dont have rights to a woman's reproductive organs? Their not yours to command, they never will be, so get off your high horse's and go play with some lego or something.
Originally posted by Jepic
The woman doesn't have a right to abort if the man wants the baby. As with all, there is always a middle ground. So for example in the case of a woman who wants abortion but the man does not, a good deal would be for the woman to have the baby but hand full responsibility of raising the child to the man. That way the man gets to keep the baby and the mother is free to do as she pleases.
Originally posted by SearchLightsInc
Originally posted by Myendica
you chose the risk of pregnancy before havin sex. Now you want to choose again? What are we? banks
Originally posted by SearchLightsInc
Originally posted by Myendica
well thats not the way it is. If it were a perfect world, all aborted children would be raised surogately. Like I said, im not for abortion, but I understand theres circumstances that arise. So im not against it. But there are women who have had multiple abortions, and that should be a crime.
Well its not a perfect world is it? Life isn't fair is it? So lets stick with reality and the facts of the matter. Its her body her choice. If it was his body, it would be his choice.
Abortions are not a great experience, you don't pose for a picture afterwards so you can look back when your older and say "Yeah, how awesome was that" Im not talking about the rights and wrongs of abortion, im talking about a woman's right to her own body.
You sound happy to treat a woman like a bank - Put in an invest in against her will and withdraw it 9 months later. You think women were put here just for you or something?
Originally posted by Endorra
Originally posted by Jepic
And do you realise that without a male's nuts you wouldn't even have a chance at controlling the life of that baby because you wouldn't even be having a baby.
You do realize I never said otherwise and I have no idea what you are arguing here?
Basically YOU WANT TO CONTROL A BEING THAT HAS MY GENES IN IT!? HEEEELLL NO!
Yeah if anything with your genes in it is in my body, I did not invite it and I will do with it as I please.