Thanks for the map ape. Now I remember where that is. Hey carrierwave, if you follow that sign, and take "7101", guess what it leads to militarily wise. NOTHING. There WAS a Naval Air Station out that way, but it's closed. There's an Armory out that way, but it's a secondary installation and it's WAY out of the way, and has nothing but bunkers on it. All the MAJOR military installations are the other way.

NOT SO FAST!--scoffers. I have never heard such of double-talk in my life. It is obvious you are completely ignorant, unread, and unlearned about this whole thread and what it is all about. In fact I don't think you really care one way or another. This is not a contest. The fact is you just are unaware of it and you have no nothing concrete to back up your double-talk.

Your map of "highway" 7101 is loaded with sites and facilities and resources that any military would confiscate and use in a minute if need be. Are you blind? or just that unlearned about the military? It is obvious to me this is a vital road for confiscation and military use.

First, I want to remind you again that the AUTHOR of the photo stated that 4 digit route signs on roads that he has researched seem to include military sites and installations. I have never been there nor have I proof of that. Yet after viewing the map and route 7101 I am convinced this route has those features. This is where your double-talk has gotten you in trouble.

You said "NOTHING" as far as military is there, then you go on to describe two sites that are clearly military and that one is closed down, and the other is so far out of the way it wouldn't matter. This will not cover your words. The fact military sites are most ALWAYS left operational even after closure. Proof of this is everywhere where military bases have been closed in the last 20 years.

Kincheloe AFB has been closed for well over a decade, yet the runways are intact, there are hangars, buildings, a locked gate and checkpoint, and has added a detention facility--part of Chippewa Dept. of Corrections of Michigan. This is also the case of KI Sawyer AFB. The runways still remain in quite good shape and is leased to a civilian airport. It also houses a rehab center for drug addicts. Don't tell me the military could not re-establish in-service and become useful for military use.


I have not even gotten to the map yet, which I will get to later--- hold on to your hats!

Carrierwave~

Obviously you weren't listening when I said it was closed. It's an AIRPORT now. And I KNOW that area like the back of my hand thank you. I LIVED along that road from 1989 until April of this year.

This is most interesting. A page back you said this:

"What island was that on, Oahu? I'll talk to my friends out there and see if they can find that road and where it goes. But I remember that sign, and IIRC it wasn't anywhere near a military installation."

After that statement, on the next page you said this:

Thanks for the map ape. Now I remember where that is. Hey carrierwave, if you follow that sign, and take "7101", guess what it leads to militarily wise. NOTHING. There WAS a Naval Air Station out that way, but it's closed. There's an Armory out that way, but it's a secondary installation and it's WAY out of the way, and has nothing but bunkers on it. All the MAJOR military installations are the other way.

Here's what you JUST said:

Obviously you weren't listening when I said it was closed. It's an AIRPORT now. And I KNOW that area like the back of my hand thank you. I LIVED along that road from 1989 until April of this year.

Are you trying to tell me you "LIVED" on that road we have been talking about here for nearly 16 years since last April and you didn't recognize or remember 7101 as the very road you lived on? This does not make sense. Your credibility has just been shot out the window! I clearly remember where I lived for the last 16 years and the road, and the routes leading to it and the flowers growing along the road!

For someone claiming: "I KNOW that area like the back of my hand thank you.", you are either being dishonest, or you have chronic amnesia.

Listen to me-- ALL American road signs (including those in Hawaii) with arrows and arrow configurations have secondary meanings for military/FEMA/NATO operations. This is the clever deception of the Quardant Sign Codes; ordinary and familiar sinage with embeded codes covertly installed without public knowledge. This is nothing new. The military has been using code words with hidden meanings throughout history. There are code words on signage everywhere on the roads you travel everyday.

I would like to point out things on that map ape posted and the facilities and sites that military operations would confiscate and use and are marked here on the mainland. However, unless a more credible witness is interested or has comment I will put that on hold.

Carrierwave~

First of all, Oahu has THREE road numbers. H-1, H-2, H-3. They are the MAJOR highways that travel across/around the island. Route 7101, your sign, is referred to as Farrington Highway and the number is NEVER used. All the roads out there have some kind of number that is NEVER used. People don't say "Get on 7101, going east." out there. They say "Get on Farrington, going townbound." The direction used are Mauka (mountain), Makai (ocean), Ewa (which is on the west end of the island), and Town (Honolulu is on the east end of the island). The other road sign goes to Kamehameha Highway, otherwise known as Kam Highway. I lived on Hickam AFB from 75-80 and 83-89, and I lived out near Farrington Highway from 1989-2006. If the author of your pictures lives there, then he should know this, and you should be able to verify it. Personally I really don't care if you believe me or not, it's YOUR problem.

If you're going to call someone a liar, I suggest that you find out for sure first.

I figured this might flush you out. Well, you say they "NEVER" use 7101? or any other 4 digit numbers on roads? Hmm. The picture I posted shows it, and other photos I have from the AUTHOR clearly show the 4 digit numbers ARE used. When you say "never" that seems awful definite to me.

Again, I find some of your statements misleading, especially about the military sites that access on 7101. (Farrington Hwy.) The truth is that highway has access to several military areas and sites. Roughly 2 1/2 miles traveling West on Farrington (7101) is an access road (76) that goes through St. Fransis Medical Center, through a golf course to Iroquios St. which shows access to the Pearl Harbor Naval Magazine westside. It appears that gray blocked areas are military reserve property. If this is the case then the first road south off 7101 Wiapio Point access road leads to a strategic points into the channel of the Harbor. This is leased Naval property. The large soccer park on Naval reserve property is designated as an emergency airlift facility for helicopters (as FEMA has designated all soccer, athletic fields, and golf courses to be confiscated as heliports) All of these kinds of sites are marked with "tacmar" signcodes in our state and all we have researched. These kinds of facilities are rife along 7101 as well as the Kalaeloa Airport a major target for military incursion and confiscation.

It is also well a known fact that all civilian maps are "sanitized" and do not include strategic highly sensitive facilities or operational sites hidden in restricted areas. They are undisclosed. They could be disguised as civilian facilities or not listed at all on civilian maps.

Carrierwave~




[edit on 13-7-2006 by Carrierwave1]

Do you bother reading? I said WHEN GIVING DIRECTIONS they don't use road numbers.

Probably not, but the issue is visual signage for military--duh!!!!

No, the issue was you calling me a liar because I don't memorize EVERY SINGLE ROAD NUMBER on an island that I lived on for 28 years.

Look sir, you have not been entriely honest about much you have said.

I LIVED along that road from 1989 until April of this year

That is a lot different than what you said here:

I lived out near Farrington Highway from 1989-2006.

You have been playing hide and seek with the truth in many of your words.

Have a nice day.

Carrierwave~

Farrington Highway runs right next to where I lived. You drive down to the bottom of the hill I lived on, and there was Farrington. Less than one mile from my house to the road. To get to where I lived, you drove along parallel, less than 1/4 mile from that road, and could see it almost the entire way.

[edit on 7/13/2006 by Zaphod58]

I went back and re-read all of your posts. Your intention is clear; to de-bunk and mislead.

Now I remember where that is. Hey carrierwave, if you follow that sign, and take "7101", guess what it leads to militarily wise. NOTHING. There WAS a Naval Air Station out that way, but it's closed. There's an Armory out that way, but it's a secondary installation and it's WAY out of the way, and has nothing but bunkers on it.

"NOTHING", is what you said. Actually are several military sites and resources there and many not listed as I have researched. So let's just say you are a critic, and your entertainment is a wanna-be de-bunker with amnesia.

You are out of your league. We are talking about military coded signs, not trying to repair your reputation. Let's move on.

Carrierwave~

lol

Some threads don't die, they just get old (dis)gracefully and I'm glad that my favourite thread on all of ATS is still going. I've followed this thread right from the beginning, and it never fails to bring a smile to my face.

Carrierwave1 - you are pure comedy genius, please keep it up!

I have seen many of these signs as well- first hand and not some photo-shopped proof for a conspiracy loon. Its is very frightening and its very real.

Well, this is an old, yet interesting thread. I find it quite interesting that the [hostile] poster took the time to drive out to a location, come back and slam others for not believing what they say........and yet never took a picture as proof????? Who does that and expect people just to take their word?

Where are the pictures?

Im curious to see some current pictures of said markers, by current members posted here. NOt something that someone Joe Schmo took years ago.

But something that can be taken now and posted now.

Im not saying I dont believe this. Id love to see some personal pictures from those claiming this exists

So.. is this still current. Seems like it hasn't had much attention in 2007. Can anyone please explain the removal of pics and data regarding this from the net? Also, can somebody please post or reveal a current source. This is odd. hmmm.. but the meat has been dangled..

I was in the Australian military and there are road signs that most people don't even notice. Like in most major cities in Australi there are black arrows on some telegraph poles, if you follow the black arrows it will take you to the nearest military base. Nothing secret about it, just easier to travel without maps.