Over the past 11 years of studying these markers we have seen the markers change styles, in shape, size, colors and yes they also have taken perfectly good signs completely down and put up new one's with no maker at all.

However, many signs have codes on the fronts of the signs too. There are code words, arrow configurations, and color codes. "Blue" and "Red" being the most dominant. Markers may not be as prevelant in some areas because of population, facilities, or resource availability.

Carrierwave~

You know why this tacmar system idea doesn't hold water? Because the government has a much more effective, simple and convenient method of identifying the locations of Hospitals, churches, government buildings, schools, military establishments, shopping malls, roads, airfields, and most anything else that a military force may need to find.

It is known as a 1:50000 scale map.

Sorry, double post

[edit on 25-5-2006 by FXE]

Originally posted by Carrierwave1
Over the past 11 years of studying these markers we have seen the markers change styles, in shape, size, colors and yes they also have taken perfectly good signs completely down and put up new one's with no maker at all.

However, many signs have codes on the fronts of the signs too. There are code words, arrow configurations, and color codes. "Blue" and "Red" being the most dominant. Markers may not be as prevelant in some areas because of population, facilities, or resource availability.

Carrierwave~

haha like what? Interstate highway shields and arrows on exit signs. I find this whole idea of codes in the highway signs rather proposterous.

You know why most people do not believe our road signs are coded?

Shallow thinking, too lazy to check it out for themselves, willingly ignorant, they do not want to believe it because it interferes with their comfort, duped into believing that government is always looking out for *their* best interests, unaware of military contingencies in a crisis scenario, too smart to be fooled, maps are my favorite navigational tool. Foreign troops will use GPS. I was/am in the military and I would have heard of it, because nothing goes above my head, I don't believe it, so I know it is not true, blinded by pride and a false sense of security.

Which one are you?

Carrierwave~



[edit on 26-5-2006 by Carrierwave1]

Ive checked the back of road signs, seeing as how Ive stolen many, all the have is a blue or yellow sticker on the back with the month and day it was installed, and the initials of who installed it.

Great work ben94gt. The testimony of a thief and criminal like yourself has been most helpful.

Carrierwave~

I've checked signs in Hawaii, which has headquarters for the Pacific commands, and around Atlanta, and in South Carolina, and they don't even have stickers on the back of them.

The fact is that ALL U.S. road signs, billboards, business logos signage under control of the ADA, and GSA regulations are coded for military/FEMA operations.

Yes, Hawaii too. I just finished a contact with a an individual who has taken photos of signage in the Hawaiian Islands and they ARE coded. He is checking those military sites and I have seen signage on the routes leading to them and the front sign codes ARE there. Most de-bunkers like to gloat--"there are no stickers here" and go on there merry way, proudly saying. "boy, I blew that thread apart". They are ignorant of the whole sheme of our U.S. and international sign systems. It is controlled internationally by NATO/UN/WTO conventions. They are the ones responsible for this and our globalist politicians whom many of you have been voting into office.

Some of you have not been listening. Tacmar stickers on the backs of signs are only the final stages of the codes. The codes are and have been on the fronts of the sign for decades: in color codes, in coded arrow configurations, geometric shapes and images, and pictorial directionals, handicap and international/european pictorial signage. The markers have been added recently and have diverted much attention from the codes on the fronts of the signs. If you don't have stickers, you will have them soon, coming to a city near you. TACMAR stickers are just added embelishments as tactical "fine-tuning" of the code system already in place. They are continually *positioning* signs at facilities routes and vital resources to mark them strategically within the code scheme with or without stickers.

Carrierwave~

Please, show me these signs that I missed then. Oh you mean the "Hickam AFB, Pearl Harbor" exit signs? Yeah those are pretty obvious.

Originally posted by Carrierwave1
I just finished a contact with a an individual who has taken photos of signage in the Hawaiian Islands and they ARE coded.

Post the pics !!!

When this subject first came up, I stopped at road signs and looked for my self, nothing but dates on all of them (I spent about an hour and a half on 4 freeways doing this).

All my years of construction, in all the different states, all the miles of road I've been crew on, including raising signs ........ nothing but date stickers.

NN

[edit on 8-7-2006 by NoNik]

Go back and read a few pages about the markers. Date tags are directionals on the signs; how they are positioned quadrantly, right-left, unusual tilting, turned on end. The stickers have NO printed messages on them for the military--I thought this was clear.

Carrierwave~

As for pictures, I will post them AFTER I get permission from the author to use them. In the meantime, how about you posting photos you took of Hawaiian road signs near the base at Pearl that show no markers on them.


[edit on 8-7-2006 by Carrierwave1]

Oh dear god. Do you realize that roads in Hawaii are numbered almost completely different than on the mainland? Those four digit numbered roads are tiny little roads that are called "highways". They're two lane roads that have "highway" after their name.

What island was that on, Oahu? I'll talk to my friends out there and see if they can find that road and where it goes. But I remember that sign, and IIRC it wasn't anywhere near a military installation.

"Highway" 93 is a two-lane road that continues to a military site here in Michigan, It is a secondary road just as a secondary two-lane road passes by Kincheloe AFB in the U.P. So what?

I do not know whether or not there is a military site on this road on Oahu, I have not been there, yet the man who took the photos has done studies on the 4 digit highways on Oahu said that this is the case on the ones he has researched. That is what he said, not I. Hawaii, last I checked is still part of the United States, and under the same U.S. Depatment of Transportation road sign system and FEMA.

Regardless, "opposite pointing arrows" are codes for FEMA/military operations. Because you don't know that or refuse to believe it is your opinion, but according to 10 years of researching signage in the U.S., Canada, Germany, and other countries you are wrong.

Carrierwave~

Originally posted by Carrierwave1
Regardless, "opposite pointing arrows" are codes for FEMA/military operations. Because you don't know that or refuse to believe it is your opinion, but according to 10 years of researching signage in the U.S., Canada, Germany, and other countries you are wrong. Carrierwave~

Sorry... you are wrong.

those arrows pointing in different directions simply mean...

if you want to drive on highway #7101 go left ( the arrow is pointing towards the left) you'll be heading west.

if you want to drive on highway #99 go right ( the arrow is pointing in the right direction) you 'll be driving north.

according to the picture you posted...



May I ask a question Carrier? Do you have a Drivers License?

To the untrained eye you are correct. If that is as far as you can see, or care to see, that is your option. However, there is much more here than meets the eye.

Do I have a driver's license? Yes.

Here's one for you...

Do you ever venture-out and think beyond the end of your own nose?

Carrierwave~