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Tom Head, Texas Judge: Obama Reelection Could Lead To 'Civil War,' I'm Ready To 'Take Up Arms'

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posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 08:52 PM
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Originally posted by FissionSurplus



In lubbock its just straight conservative nuts. No diversity. Lots of mental inbreeding. Lots of stagnation of thought. It's the opposite in Denton. For Texas thats saying a lot.
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Engage in stereotypes much? I suppose every single student at Texas Tech is mentally inbred, mentally stagnant, and totally right wing.


Whatever 'left-leaning' thought Denton has is due to people who come from other places, usually either the west or east coast, such as myself. Because Denton is part of the ever-sprawling DFW area, there are plenty of people there from all over the place. When I worked in Denton, my workmates were from: Buffalo, New York....Madison, Wisconsin.....Detroit, Michigan....Flagstaff, Arizona....San Diego, California......Mississippi....South Carolina......Florida.....I didn't work with one native Texan, and this was a big agency.

There are stereotypes, and then there is a more solid reality. Which do you engage in?


if it fits sure.

terms are terms and these terms are used to gauge a particular mindset. terms are used to signify and narrow/reduce a particular abstraction. make representational. of course not everyone fits terms to a T all the time. that much is obvious. its a gauge we play with when trying to make things accessible. we all play the "organise everyone and everything into tidy categories" all the time. its a huge part of language. and reality is a rorschach inkblot.

there are binaries and then there are binaries and rhizomes. which do you engage in?
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posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 08:55 PM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by becomingaware
 



and where the hell do you get that we receive more money from the government than we pay in taxes? Proof of that please.


www.politifact.com...


Since Texas represents about 9% of the National GDP is would necessarily get more in federal spending than another less productive State with smaller percentages of the GDP.


Texas, however, is currently contributing more than 1/2 a percentage point more to the nation's GDP than it did in 2000. The state's current GDP percentage is 8.09%, while in 2000 Texas accounted for 7.46% of the country's GDP.

econpost.com...


The ratio of federal taxes collected to those spent is a useless and irrelevant statistic used primarily when convenient by both parties to advance a political agenda. With all of the infrastructure and diversity of industry in TX it is more than capable of being a independent country regardless of the ratio of federal dollars collected vs. spent. It has all of the things a nation needs ports, agriculture, mineral wealth, oil, manufacturing etc. A lot of States could not make it alone but TX is one of the one’s that could.

The ratio of federal taxes paid to dollars received means almost nothing since it doesn’t address key things like if the State has a US Port, Military Bases and other such “federal dollars” that are not related to a benefit each individual would receive. I can guarantee if you calculated the ratio based on tax dollars paid to personal benefits (Medicare, Medicaid, welfare, food stamps etc.) the numbers would be very different. I doubt that analysis exists as it is in neither side’s interest to speak of such things.

Besides it appears to me that it only considers personal type income taxes not taxes generated and paid to the government from corporations and collected via infrastructure supported in the State via the ports from import tariffs and other federal taxes.


The paid taxes included employment, estate and trust income taxes, among others. Federal spending in Texas includes funding for retirement and disability, grants (such as for research and construction), wages of federal employees and direct payments for programs such as Medicare.

www.politifact.com...


Not all the States are equal when it comes to population and cost of living so in States with a higher cost of living the income levels will be higher and therefore the ratio of taxes paid per capita will be higher as well. Texas has a relatively low cost of living compared to a lot of the more populated "blue" States. Yet spending is evenly divided regardless of cost of living in the States and the dollars don’t have the same buying power.

Also, according the same reference you all but 5 of the States take in more in federal dollars than they spend which is a mathematical impossibility (I suppose with deficit spending it is possible.) unless those other 5 states are paying in more than 10 times the amount of taxes than they get back. I don’t think that is the case. Clearly they are not accounting for other forms of federal revenue.


In 2009, most states — there were 45, including Texas — received more than residents paid in taxes.
www.politifact.com...


Obviously there is more revenue out there that is not being counted. Texas produces more than its share of GDP per captita which makes up for any ratio of tax dollars in vs. out argument.



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posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 09:39 PM
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Just got home from work, and saw this story on Anderson Cooper.

I don't mean to disrespect anyone (or myself), But the first thought that came to mind was....

"This guys been spending too much time on ATS".



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 09:58 PM
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Outkast is earning that Obama campaign paycheck!

I think the judge was saying if you keep pushing Americans they will eventually push back much harder.

Obama's leadership:
BLAME BUSH and bail out his criminal campaign contributor's

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posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 10:08 PM
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posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by Southern Guardian

Originally posted by FissionSurplus
I think we would do just fine, ma'am. Texas cranks out the most oil of any state in the union...


Texas also consumes the most oil out of any State:
www.buzzfeed.com...

1.13 billion barrels annually, that's over 3 million barrels a day, out of a total of 18.5 million barrels in the U.S. They produce around 970,000 barrels a day. The second state by consumption, California, takes in 132 million barrels yearly. They produce far less than what they consume and demand in oil, they take up a good 16% of consumption in this country, with 8% of the population.,


Actually were 4th per capita, and your link even says that. Here is a better one.
www.statemaster.com...



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 12:28 AM
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Wait I'll bite.......

being that so far we had Bush Senior, Bush Henchman, Bush Junior, and Bush puppet....or if you prefer all 4 puppets of same financial backers and interest....I'll say The Bush hegemony is responsible for the Judge and many Americans feeling this way.

To me what is more funny/sad is that people still believe in this false dichotomy when last 4 administrations have ALL steadily marched us towards socialism. The Dichotomy simply makes an easy tool to divide and keep us from understanding where the real power lays, or from uniting to do anything about it. The Tea Party was formed giving a 3rd alternative, and presented a small threat of an actual uniting choice, and quickly and smartly kept in bounds, by presenting it as a GOP front in media, and then using Soros/WS money to create an ironic anti WS movement in Occupy, that served to once again divide the country by giving two opposing alternative choices...and effectively making "pro constitution" a GOP only cause.....(despite the patriot act) go figure....

So yeah in the end it's Bush's and many others fault.....but keep whaling away at each other over chicken sandwiches, while they finish collapsing economy/currency and buy up the country on the cheap. Because understanding economics and which financial bit of news should make you angry or upset is hard, but being angry at a prayer in school or two guys getting it on in their bedroom is easy.

Obama may someday be truly understood as the most useful idiot of all time.

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posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 12:57 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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Since I don't exist, how possibly can I have an ego?


For real? Are you really going to go there?


Why not? I pinch myself as hard as a can and I'm not proclaiming an impending civil war just because some dude is in the office. So I'm willing to go ANYWHERE, secure in the knowledge that I won't contribute much to idiocy in general, and hopefully not to the part to which you subscribe, quote "thought is the DNA of the Universe".


I just threw in a metaphysical concept to someone in addition to addressing his thoughts, and here you come smashing everything like a bull in a China shop.


Yeah well sometimes a simple but valid thought does smash layers of mediocre trying.



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 01:52 AM
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Real world scenario, your next president, who ever it is will be the new worst, I don't think it matters who gets in, they all talk a different story but either way are left with the same problems and limitations, so the possible outcomes only differ so slightly, maybe as slight as the way its presented in the media.
call to arms I wouldn't say is necessary, I would love to just not acknowledge my gov and go about living based on my own moral code, trouble is the majority is so deep into believing politics and law are the way of the world, like it wouldn't function with out them, crime would rule and general disorder would reign supreme, as apposed to the mass organized crimes the gov's and general chaos that all ready cause in third world countries.
A call to arms would just divide the people leaving room for propaganda to run wild and set human evolution back a bit, Though I would love to see the ones that cause the suffering suffer for every individual/animal they have victimized, we simply have to wait until they have no power, they could call you a terrorist or a traitor as much as they want then to no effect, just Imagine the looks on there faces when the slaves say "No,
" there heads would explode.



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 02:27 AM
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I can honestly say that throughout my life I have heard things come from the mouths of republicans that simply is wrong, and it is usually obvious that they do not have a grasp on the truth, or on political reality in general. Look at the people like Rush, as these are who they listen to, and it is obvious why they are misinformed.

The comment by the judge in the article just furthers this point, along with all the comments from Republican politicians that have been discussed on ATS lately. Many of the Republican politicians grew up with everything handed to them, and when they take office they are going to better things for themselves, or people like them. Basically, they would better conditions for the employers, not the workers, as a broad example. And considering the vast majority of citizens are workers...ya.

I have many problems with their belief system. Many. And it irks me so much that they claim to be religious, mostly Christian, yet do not practice the religion, as is evidenced by their decisions and voting history while in office. Why the small rant against Republicans in this thread? Because I think that we are going to see more stupid comments from them, since as a majority they are the most uninformed. I don't like Democrats that much either, although I will give them credit for actually supporting working class people, instead of just pretending to do so...Well, not all Democrats are true Democrats either, but their doctrine is not only more morally accurate, but just more reasonable on many issues.

Republicans are always saying how Dems. just want to spend money, etc, which is ridiculous when you actually research the facts for oneself, instead of REPEATING THE WORTHLESS AND INACCURATE JUNK COMING FROM REPUBLICAN PUNDITS. That is the main reason they are misinformed... The reason we haven't gotten all these dumb comments in the past is because Republican media worked overtime to censor what was being said. Democratic media would play some of them at times, although they aren't usually into mudslinging as much as Republicans, but the Rep. followers would never get to hear this stuff...That just adds to their ignorance. Dem's do a much better job at presenting both sides of cases, instead of neglecting evidence entirely, or cherry picking evidence, as the other party seems to do.

So all of these are factors that, in my opinion, are going to contribute to us hearing more and more moronic stuff from Republicans in the near future. Bush is the only example I even need to cite, lol. Anyway, people shouldn't support Dems or Rep.'s in my opinion. Rather they need to be flexible, because no issue is cut and dry, for the most part. Anyone who would support the extreme spectrum of any idea, as opposed to seeing both sides and compromising, shouldn't even talk politics, much less get involved in the field.



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 03:52 AM
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Cause civil unrest? Willing to join a resistance? Are they sure this bloke's first name is Tom and not Richard? Fighting against each other puts him and anyone else like him down in the gutter where the ME people are, fighting amongst themselves. Let's hope fools like him don't take the USA and its allies to the same depths as the ME madness



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 03:52 AM
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Who cares, honestly? He has his beliefs and everyone else has theirs. So what if he holds a position of authority? Is it going to make one bit of difference in the grand scheme of things? ....ever?
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posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 04:01 AM
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Originally posted by th3onetruth
First off I haven't said anything about the judge,


Your posting in a thread concerning what this judge said. Either you agree or sympathize with what he said or you don't, by the sounds of it, you do.


Second, it is hard to say how we'd be acting if McCain was POTUS,


It's hard to think that this judge would say such a thing under a McCain presidency, because deep down we know he would not, and we know the reasons.


So for me to pretend that life is all Unicorns, bunnies and I eat rainbow


No, life is not all unicorns, bunnies and rainbows. Texas seceeding will not make it so either.



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 04:40 AM
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Originally posted by DIDtm
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Maybe more people are awake and aware and see what consequences may actually happen than you give credit for.

I despise Mitt Romney.....as what Obama has done during his term.....but what did Romney say that was really all that bad? Or out of touch?


Parts of CO are awake.



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 06:55 AM
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Originally posted by SadButTrue
He is correct about his assumptions that Obama and others want the UN to trump the constitution.


Source Please



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 07:46 AM
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As per the Brandon Raub case, isn't this punishable by psychiatric detention?

CJ



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 08:07 AM
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***UPDATE***

Judge Tom Head of Texas has been removed from his position. It's not up online yet, however, I was watching NBC news and just heard it between eight and nine in the morning.

I don't know, I guess having an opinion, and voicing a prediction - is treasonous and punishable.

Let the WITCH HUNTS commence.



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 09:23 AM
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Originally posted by SadButTrue
He is correct about his assumptions that Obama and others want the UN to trump the constitution. This isn't the first time someone in the Obama administration has threatened to use UN troops or power to do something with the USA..


Please enlighten us to when someone in the Obama administration has ever threatened to use UN troops for anything in the US? I would like some kind of credible source for your information if you are going to make outlandish claims like this.

I cannot wait for you to bring up the whole "OMG The UN is trying to take away our guns!" after that has already been debunked on here a number of times... please enlighten us.


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posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 09:29 AM
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two words:

LUBBOCK TEXAS



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 09:31 AM
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Originally posted by Southern Guardian

Originally posted by th3onetruth
First off I haven't said anything about the judge,


Your posting in a thread concerning what this judge said. Either you agree or sympathize with what he said or you don't, by the sounds of it, you do.


Second, it is hard to say how we'd be acting if McCain was POTUS,


It's hard to think that this judge would say such a thing under a McCain presidency, because deep down we know he would not, and we know the reasons.


So for me to pretend that life is all Unicorns, bunnies and I eat rainbow


No, life is not all unicorns, bunnies and rainbows. Texas seceeding will not make it so either.





Lol I love how linear people think on ATS, it's either black or white. Gray is never a color in an average ATSer's mind. But anyway, like I have said multiple times, I have wanted Texas to secede way before hearing about Mr. Head.. Plus the video from the link in the OP, Mr. Head clearly says, " I am thinking worst case scenario". So that is a "WHAT IF" or "COULD YOU IMAGINE" type of statement. And how is it you can be 100% sure of something that CANNOT happen? McCain can't be POTUS but yet you are 100% sure that Mr. Head wouldn't be saying this? That's bloody brilliant, you must be Jesus, God, Allah, Zeus or any other All-Knowing being. And lastly way to cut that last part short and not to grasp sarcasm, clearly life isn't all rainbows and kittens and to believe so would be extremely ignorant.

I recant my statement about McCain never being POTUS, I mean it could happen, though he might not make it full term. To much stress on that war torn body of his.







 
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